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Why has saku-manhoef been scored a submission and not a tko/ko?

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http://www.dailymotion.com/search/sakuraba/video/x5sd5d_kazushi-sakuraba-vs-melvin-manhoef_sport

Heres the fight, this should be scorred a tko/ko not a submission as has been done, for those wondering whether sakus left hand (obscurred from view) is tapping wait till the end of the video for an aerial replay where it is clear there is no tap.

For the record shitdog have it as a tko.

Post #1   6/15/08 11:08:40AM   

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Ya I saw that...and Sherdog and MMAWeekly both said it was a TKO

Post #2   6/15/08 11:14:53AM   

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yea they should change it, that way i get my 11 points too

On a side Note: Saku needs to retire already, hate seeing him get brutalized over and over again....

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Post #3   6/15/08 11:18:21AM   

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It also has Mousasi as a Judge's Decision- Submission/Tapout

I blame sleepy mods who stayed up all night watching it for us, haha

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Posted by tap_or_snap

http://www.dailymotion.com/search/sakuraba/video/x5sd5d_kazushi-sakuraba-vs-melvin-manhoef_sport

Heres the fight, this should be scorred a tko/ko not a submission as has been done, for those wondering whether sakus left hand (obscurred from view) is tapping wait till the end of the video for an aerial replay where it is clear there is no tap.

For the record shitdog have it as a tko.



I didn't even notice that's how they scored it...

Thanks for pointing this out tap_or_snap!

That was a clear KO/TKO...in dominating fashion!!

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Posted by Jackelope

It also has Mousasi as a Judge's Decision- Submission/Tapout

I blame sleepy mods who stayed up all night watching it for us, haha



Yeah...I got up and watched them this morning at like 7:30... there was no way I could get up at 3 am to watch it!!

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Posted by Jackelope

It also has Mousasi as a Judge's Decision- Submission/Tapout

I blame sleepy mods who stayed up all night watching it for us, haha



Well noticed! and that makes a big difference too as two of the five joint second place guys had it a ud which means they should tie with cjb for first place with 93pts (all three had manhoef 1st tko too)...

All in all lots of people will of missed out on 4 or 8 pts and a few may of even gained 4 pts, that said who in their right mind would of picked melvin to beat saku via submission i dont know.

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Post #7   6/15/08 11:59:28AM   

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LOL yeah I was thinking "Manhoef sub??????????????" the thought never even crossed my mind

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it's a mistake

mahoef by tko rd 1 11 pts, but i only took 7 for it
mousasu ud 11 pts, but i only took 7 for it.


something is wrong here, not to worry though,

i'm sure the mods will appropriately adjust the points, +8 points for me personally, not the 73 i have scored but the 81 I deserve.

thanks mods!

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Posted by see_you_in_hell_brat

it's a mistake

mahoef by tko rd 1 11 pts, but i only took 7 for it
mousasu ud 11 pts, but i only took 7 for it.


something is wrong here, not to worry though,

i'm sure the mods will appropriately adjust the points, +8 points for me personally, not the 73 i have scored but the 81 I deserve.

thanks mods!



Puts you even further in front, great season so far for you

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That is strange, will I am sure they will correct it or provide an explanation. Gives me a couple more points, but not really much help.

Good eye

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Posted by tap_or_snap

http://www.dailymotion.com/search/sakuraba/video/x5sd5d_kazushi-sakuraba-vs-melvin-manhoef_sport

Heres the fight, this should be scorred a tko/ko not a submission as has been done, for those wondering whether sakus left hand (obscurred from view) is tapping wait till the end of the video for an aerial replay where it is clear there is no tap.

For the record shitdog have it as a tko.



im very curious about this mysekf

the junkie has it 1st rd tko as well

Post #12   6/15/08 1:59:23PM   

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Posted by CantAndleDaRiddum


Posted by tap_or_snap

http://www.dailymotion.com/search/sakuraba/video/x5sd5d_kazushi-sakuraba-vs-melvin-manhoef_sport

Heres the fight, this should be scorred a tko/ko not a submission as has been done, for those wondering whether sakus left hand (obscurred from view) is tapping wait till the end of the video for an aerial replay where it is clear there is no tap.

For the record shitdog have it as a tko.



im very curious about this mysekf

the junkie has it 1st rd tko as well



It's clearly just a mistake on the site...It will be fixed people, don't worry.

Post #13   6/15/08 2:12:03PM   

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I am sure there will be a recount

Post #14   6/15/08 3:42:11PM   

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I actully doubt they will fix it. At Cage Rage 26, Zikic tapped Faverus in Rd3 according to every PbP I read and the results on Sherdog yet MMAPlayground has kept it as a 2nd Rd tap since the event.

I even emailed them the mistake and they never fixed it. For a site based on ranking people by points, they sure don't care enough to make sure everything is 100%, those points could be the difference in someone winning real $$$.

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