Tyson Griffin Wants No Part of Nate Diaz |
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prozacnation1978
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i would rather see faber rematch with tyson
but griffin doesn't finish fights, i think diaz could take him
i hope it does happen eventually, but diaz needs to start being on the pay per views now
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Post #16 6/11/08 11:55:37AM
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Styles
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Season: 10-6 (#7061)
Location: Charlotte/Lee county, FL.
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Posted by prozacnation1978
i would rather see faber rematch with tyson
but griffin doesn't finish fights, i think diaz could take him
i hope it does happen eventually, but diaz needs to start being on the pay per views now
It doesn't matter if you finish fights or not, the only thing that matters is that out out score your opponent and win... if you catch him then you catch him, if not, win by decision is just as good. I will agree though that Tyson has looked a bit lack lately but there is no way I would take Diaz over him.
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Post #17 6/11/08 12:06:17PM
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Posted by Styles
When was the last time he finished a fight anyways against any 155 pounder that was half decent on the ground..oh yeah never."
7-subs, Tibau? 10-subs,Tavares? 12-subs,Guida (who lost a close split decision to diaz's boy Gilbert)? Faber is a good indication of how this fight would go. Grffin wins via Ko/Tko. Nate looked liek shit against Kurt, the only reason Nate won is because Kurt ****** up and losted focus. Nate was getting his ass kicked by Manny too, another lucky win. This guy's (Nate Diaz) fights are numbered, someone can only get so lucky so many times.
you do realize that none of the guys you mentioned he finished right?
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Post #18 6/11/08 12:06:27PM
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Styles
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Posted by Pookie
Posted by Styles
When was the last time he finished a fight anyways against any 155 pounder that was half decent on the ground..oh yeah never."
7-subs, Tibau? 10-subs,Tavares? 12-subs,Guida (who lost a close split decision to diaz's boy Gilbert)? Faber is a good indication of how this fight would go. Grffin wins via Ko/Tko. Nate looked liek shit against Kurt, the only reason Nate won is because Kurt ****** up and losted focus. Nate was getting his ass kicked by Manny too, another lucky win. This guy's (Nate Diaz) fights are numbered, someone can only get so lucky so many times.
you do realize that none of the guys you mentioned he finished right?
You do realize that all the guys I mentioned he beat right? Again, finishing someone doesn't really mean a guy is weak or not. A win is a win. BTW, he KO'd Faber, not really sure what you consider "finishing"
Last edited 6/11/08 12:23PM by styles
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Post #19 6/11/08 12:22:16PM
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Posted by Styles
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Posted by Styles
When was the last time he finished a fight anyways against any 155 pounder that was half decent on the ground..oh yeah never."
7-subs, Tibau? 10-subs,Tavares? 12-subs,Guida (who lost a close split decision to diaz's boy Gilbert)? Faber is a good indication of how this fight would go. Grffin wins via Ko/Tko. Nate looked liek shit against Kurt, the only reason Nate won is because Kurt ****** up and losted focus. Nate was getting his ass kicked by Manny too, another lucky win. This guy's (Nate Diaz) fights are numbered, someone can only get so lucky so many times.
you do realize that none of the guys you mentioned he finished right?
You do realize that all the guys I mentioned he beat right? Again, finishing someone doesn't really mean a guy is weak or not. A win is a win. BTW, he KO'd Faber, not really sure what you consider "finishing"
You're quoting him and then not replying to what he said. Its nonsensical, Im not arguing the importance of finishing a fight... but its kind of silly to quote someone and then your response has nothing to do with what he said... you know?
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Post #20 6/11/08 12:28:09PM
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lordicast
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Season: 25-22 (#4216)
Location: California
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Posted by Styles
the only reason Nate won is because Kurt ****** up and losted focus. Nate was getting his ass kicked by Manny too, another lucky win. This guy's (Nate Diaz) fights are numbered, someone can only get so lucky so many times.
Thats what they said about NOG
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Post #21 6/11/08 12:47:24PM
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coldchillin
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first off, Griffin didn't beat Guida... that was such a trash decision, Guida got robbed there. As for Griffin, he's severely overrated... he has been outgrappled in most of his recent matches. I think the fight would be very competitive but I think Diaz's bjj game is strong enough to finish Griffin.
As for Nate's homeboy Gilbert Melendez... Melendez would smash Griffin.
I think Aurelio is going to beat him anyways.
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Post #22 6/11/08 1:03:55PM
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NatedawgThaM
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Posted by Styles
When was the last time he finished a fight anyways against any 155 pounder that was half decent on the ground..oh yeah never."
7-subs, Tibau? 10-subs,Tavares? 12-subs,Guida (who lost a close split decision to diaz's boy Gilbert)? Faber is a good indication of how this fight would go. Grffin wins via Ko/Tko. Nate looked liek shit against Kurt, the only reason Nate won is because Kurt ****** up and losted focus. Nate was getting his ass kicked by Manny too, another lucky win. This guy's (Nate Diaz) fights are numbered, someone can only get so lucky so many times.
How are you going to call Diaz lucky and then praise Tyson who is THE LUCKIEST FIGHTER IN UFC HISTORY!!!!
Tyson gets the WORST decisions. If you watch the Guida, Tavares, and Tibau fights, you can clearly see HE LOST ALL OF THEM! Atleast he should have, but the judges are on his nuts so bad he wins all these BS decisions.
Diaz would outclass Tyson so bad. On the feet he'd pick him apart and on the ground he'd submit him. The only way Tyson wins is if it goes the distance since he almost always finds a way to win a BS decision. But Diaz's submissions are way too good, better then anybody Tyson has ever faced with BJJ just because he has such long limbs. IMO he'd sub Tyson with a triangle in the 3rd.
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Post #23 6/11/08 1:45:59PM
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xtra_chewy
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Diaz, 2nd round sub.
Griffin could maybe take the standup but once it goes to the ground its all Diaz.
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Post #24 6/11/08 2:25:33PM
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quezocrema0032
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yea tyson the luckyest man in mma ... and u cant say nates wins are lucky nates always losing at 1st its his style against gray manny and kurt hes just great at comming back ... and if he can catch kurt peilligino he can catch tyson griffin kurt is wayyyy better then tyson
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Post #25 6/11/08 2:28:26PM
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Twenty20Dollars
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well i think tyson would get beat down by diaz. tyson is overrated, most of his fights in the UFC should have been losses instead of wins.
I think faber would beat him in a rematch also. haha.
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Post #26 6/11/08 5:30:31PM
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Posted by coldchillin
first off, Griffin didn't beat Guida... that was such a trash decision, Guida got robbed there. As for Griffin, he's severely overrated... he has been outgrappled in most of his recent matches. I think the fight would be very competitive but I think Diaz's bjj game is strong enough to finish Griffin.
As for Nate's homeboy Gilbert Melendez... Melendez would smash Griffin.
I think Aurelio is going to beat him anyways.
 , look at how Gilbert absolutely dominated guida. Milendez would do much better against a far inferior grappler in griffin.
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Post #27 6/11/08 10:20:49PM
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Posted by NatedawgThaM
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When was the last time he finished a fight anyways against any 155 pounder that was half decent on the ground..oh yeah never."
7-subs, Tibau? 10-subs,Tavares? 12-subs,Guida (who lost a close split decision to diaz's boy Gilbert)? Faber is a good indication of how this fight would go. Grffin wins via Ko/Tko. Nate looked liek shit against Kurt, the only reason Nate won is because Kurt ****** up and losted focus. Nate was getting his ass kicked by Manny too, another lucky win. This guy's (Nate Diaz) fights are numbered, someone can only get so lucky so many times.
How are you going to call Diaz lucky and then praise Tyson who is THE LUCKIEST FIGHTER IN UFC HISTORY!!!!
Tyson gets the WORST decisions. If you watch the Guida, Tavares, and Tibau fights, you can clearly see HE LOST ALL OF THEM! Atleast he should have, but the judges are on his nuts so bad he wins all these BS decisions.
Diaz would outclass Tyson so bad. On the feet he'd pick him apart and on the ground he'd submit him. The only way Tyson wins is if it goes the distance since he almost always finds a way to win a BS decision. But Diaz's submissions are way too good, better then anybody Tyson has ever faced with BJJ just because he has such long limbs. IMO he'd sub Tyson with a triangle in the 3rd.
I think he beat tibau, other than that i agree.
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Post #28 6/11/08 10:22:09PM
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Santa Says: No Stampeding!
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I think both fighters are probably overrated right now.
In this fight, I'd probably side with Tyson because I see him having a huge strength advantage over Nate. Tyson is one of the stronger guys at 155lb, I believe Nate is one of the weakest. If it happened this weekend, I'd pick Tyson. But I think both of these guys' next fights will tell us alot about where they are really at. We could be talking Maximus v. Neer in a couple of weeks.
Last edited 6/11/08 11:42PM by ncordless
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