Quality of UFC refs since Big Jhon has left. |
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Out of touch.
Career record: 81-70
Season: 33-24 (#3280)
Location: Olivia, MN
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Do you feel like things have gone down hill at all?
Last edited 5/31/08 3:24PM by theguido
Edit note/reason: ment to be a post not a topic so i came up with a new one
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Post #1 5/31/08 3:20:37PM
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tomsmith17381
MMA Regular
Career record: 4-7
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: derby u.k
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I wouldnt say its gone down hill at all but i certainly miss big john's presence in the octagon. he was a celebrity in his own right
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Post #2 5/31/08 3:40:51PM
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Twenty20Dollars
MMA Sensei
Career record: 168-91
Season: 47-23 (#640)
Location: KC,MO
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i think there has been more incidents w/ the ref's now with the stoppages.
only ref that i like is mario.
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Post #3 5/31/08 3:50:43PM
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AnDeRsonDaSiLvA
In Full Mount
Career record: 115-56
Season: 49-21 (#525)
Location: BC CANADA
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i think herb dean is the best ref atm , mazagati being the worst. BIG john was by far the best. I certainly do miss him. I Wouldnt say the quality of ufc refs has gone down. It's not like big john refed every fight before.
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Post #4 5/31/08 3:51:34PM
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jae_1833
MMA Sensei
Career record: 146-94
Season: 38-32 (#2004)
Location: cali
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Well at least there hasn't been any major problems yet. They had one with the Thiago Karo fight, but it was somehow swept under the rug....I still think Thiago was going to win regardless, but it was just a little premature which allowed for Karo to jump up and act as if he wasn't hurt in the slightest. The refs aren't bad...they just aren't great and Big John was.
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Post #5 5/31/08 4:06:14PM
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Next WW Champ!
Career record: 156-95
Season: 41-29 (#2239)
Location: So Cal.
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ya its all about Herb know.
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Blessed be the Lord my strength which teacheth my hands to war and my fingers to fight. Psalm 144:1...................WAR BJ
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Post #6 5/31/08 4:33:24PM
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MFOTHER
In Full Mount
Career record: 76-37
Season: 38-15 (#3325)
Location: FL
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herb is the best they have .
i DO NOT LIKE YEVES LAVIGNE
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Post #7 5/31/08 6:13:32PM
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ohiostate1016
MMA Sensei
Career record: 126-89
Season: 43-27 (#1331)
Location: Columbus, OH
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I don't like to bash people (which means that is exactly what I'm about to do), but I don't like Mazzagatti as a ref. I have nothing against him as a person, but it just doesn't seem like he has the ref's instincts as to how much punishment a fighter can take. I mean, come on, these guys are in the UFC for goodness sake! I'm prett sure that a guy isn't going to get KO'd from a grazing superman punch (Irvin vs. Alexander ref). Anyone can be unconscious for 1/83 of a second; that does NOT mean that a fight has to be stopped.
I just wish that Big John could do some ref training in the UFC and such. Maybe if these refs TALKED to the fighters like John did, they would know how to handle these guys.
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Post #8 5/31/08 7:11:59PM
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Pitbull09
MMA Sensei
Career record: 134-69
Season: 43-23 (#1565)
Location: PA
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I didnt notice how great a ref he was until he left.
Now there are so many stoppages Im flipping out over. People may disagree with me but I still think the Penn/Sherk stoppage was wrong. Even if Sherk was out during the round, it wasnt stopped. The round ended then they decided that it was stopped? There was another fight that night where the same thing happened except they let the guy continue but he chose not to.
To me, on sherdog they should mark the fight endign at 5:10 of the 3rd round 
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Post #9 5/31/08 8:44:59PM
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mrkennedy
Belt Contender
Career record: 163-79
Season: 51-19 (#168)
Location: montreal
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yves lavigne is the best refere imo
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Post #10 6/1/08 12:04:00AM
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skinnator
Standup Guy
Career record: 44-34
Season: 2-3 (#8870)
Location: Montreal
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nonono its ive lavine
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Post #11 6/1/08 12:06:02AM
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warglory
MMA Sensei
Career record: 169-115
Season: 31-27 (#2819)
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Posted by ohiostate1016
Anyone can be unconscious for 1/83 of a second; that does NOT mean that a fight has to be stopped.
I'm sorry, but this made absolutely no sense to me. If a ref notices a fighter is unconscious, which both Karo and Alexander were on that card, it's his responsibility to immediately stop that fight. You expect a ref to let a fight go for a little while longer to make sure the downed fighter isn't EXTRA knocked out?
Last edited 6/1/08 12:48AM by warglory
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Post #12 6/1/08 12:47:39AM
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gartface
MMA Sensei
Career record: 147-96
Season: 51-19 (#178)
Location: Flo-town, SC
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Posted by MFOTHER
herb is the best they have .
i DO NOT LIKE YEVES LAVIGNE
That's sad. I feel he is an awful ref. After tonight, I think that Miragliotta did a good job. (I know, shoot me) He stopped the knock outs before excess shots could get in. (I.E. Rogers vs. Murphy)
They need more of him in the UFC I think.
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Post #13 6/1/08 12:49:56AM
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bigbubbano23
In Full Mount
Career record: 108-86
Season: 39-31 (#2579)
Location: the hills
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i forget the big refs name but he was on elite xc. i like him the best even though he made a questionable call in the thompson fight.
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Post #14 6/1/08 1:32:42AM
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MMAcca
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 176-94
Season: 46-24 (#607)
Location: North East of England
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Posted by bigbubbano23
i forget the big refs name but he was on elite xc. i like him the best even though he made a questionable call in the thompson fight.
Dan Miragliotta.
I was a big fan of his too until last night......
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Post #15 6/1/08 8:54:34AM
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