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MMAcca
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 176-94
Season: 46-24 (#607)
Location: North East of England
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The Light Heavyweight division emerged from UFC 84 with more clarity than before, but still very muddled. Simply put, there is nobody right now who deserves an immediate title shot against the winner of Rampage and Forrest. The top half of the contenders includes Wand, Thiago, Machida, Shogun, Liddell, and Rashad Evans. Both Chuck and Shogun are expected to return in September, which is right around the time all the guys who just fought should begin fighting again. There's also the possibility of Rich Franklin moving to 205, which is very likely in my view considering the place he is in right now at 185.
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Post #1 5/26/08 2:33:40AM
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clintjack
MMA Regular
Career record: 159-84
Season: 48-22 (#450)
Location: AZ
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Yeah those would all be great fights, lets hope all of them happen.
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Post #2 5/26/08 2:47:43AM
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ocho-cinco
In Full Mount
Career record: 180-104
Season: 40-30 (#1511)
Location: Nelson BC
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All fights I would like to see.
I really like Thiago Vs Sokoudjou, or Thiago Vs Machida. Sokoudjou Vs Wanderlei would be dope as well. Can't really go wrong with prety much any of the top fighters at 205 right now. Stacked division, with a bottle neck at the top.
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Post #3 5/26/08 2:54:31AM
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jae_1833
MMA Sensei
Career record: 146-94
Season: 38-32 (#2004)
Location: cali
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I still see Rich at MW....he could easily have a home there for a long time with the influx of new talent and possibly have a war with Wand if he decides to step down a weight class.
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Post #4 5/26/08 3:32:05AM
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xAcidburNx
MMA Regular
Career record: 151-88
Season: 44-26 (#1539)
Location: Winnipeg MB, CAN
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i would love to see wand vs rich. that would be sick. not to mention rich and hendo. thats 2 big fights he could have and if he takes em both with one more name fight he could get another title shot even if anderson is still reigning champ. if you watch all andersons fights i would say rich gave him the hardest time in that second fight.
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Post #5 5/26/08 4:02:43AM
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Red-Dragon
Standup Guy
Career record: 163-95
Season: 44-26 (#1066)
Location: West Sussex
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Posted by xAcidburNx
i would love to see wand vs rich. that would be sick. not to mention rich and hendo. thats 2 big fights he could have and if he takes em both with one more name fight he could get another title shot even if anderson is still reigning champ. if you watch all andersons fights i would say rich gave him the hardest time in that second fight.
I would say Lutter gave Anderson his hardest fight.
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Post #6 5/26/08 7:16:19AM
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EON
Banned
Career record: 55-29
Season: 20-12 (#4820)
Location: Amsterdam
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Wand cleared up a lot at this event, (1) he proved that hes back in the top 10 or 5....(2) it showed a lot about Jardine and that aggressive getting on the inside style is his weakness as the case with Liddell who is a counter attacker like Jardine which hurt him in the Rampage fight (3) hes still very much in the mix to fight Rampage for the title after another top 10 or top 5 win
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Post #7 5/26/08 7:21:20AM
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hails
MMA Regular
Career record: 134-94
Season: 43-27 (#1925)
Location: Melbourne
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Machida v Evans - winner gets winner of Rampage v Forest.
I think that is how it should go!!!
Both Machida and Evans undefeated, what more do they have to do to get a shot? Beat on one another to work out who deserves it the most.
I thought that would be the most logical way.
Chuck, after one win?
Wandi, after one win?
Shogun, after a loss?
Jardine, after a loss?
Is there anyone else?
Cheers
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Post #8 5/26/08 8:27:37AM
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Focker101
MMA Regular
Career record: 188-84
Season: 47-23 (#691)
Location: Peterborough, Ontario
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Posted by hails
Machida v Evans - winner gets winner of Rampage v Forest.
I think that is how it should go!!!
Both Machida and Evans undefeated, what more do they have to do to get a shot? Beat on one another to work out who deserves it the most.
I thought that would be the most logical way.
Chuck, after one win?
Wandi, after one win?
Shogun, after a loss?
Jardine, after a loss?
Is there anyone else?
Cheers
Agreed but add Thiago Silva as well any of those three
and I dont like Machida or Evans at all but I would perfer Machida would win as I dislike him less the Evans but ultimately I would like to see Thiago his fights are entertaining
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Post #9 5/26/08 9:17:55AM
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cheesy-maggot
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 61-44
Season: 31-21 (#4093)
Location: Anaheim
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Posted by hails
Machida v Evans - winner gets winner of Rampage v Forest.
I think that is how it should go!!!
Both Machida and Evans undefeated, what more do they have to do to get a shot? Beat on one another to work out who deserves it the most.
I thought that would be the most logical way.
Chuck, after one win?
Wandi, after one win?
Shogun, after a loss?
Jardine, after a loss?
Is there anyone else?
Cheers
Problem with that is who in the top ten has Evans and Machida faced
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Post #10 5/26/08 12:04:26PM
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whardin19
In Full Mount
Career record: 144-91
Season: 45-25 (#934)
Location: Indiana
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Intresting tidbit there. There is no doubt in my mind that Thiago Silva and Lyoto Machida should be fighting to face the winner of the Forrest Griffin and Rampage Jackson fight. I know Rashad Evans hasn't lost and is still undefeated. But, I just don't think he's ready for the top competition put him in there with Wandy that will prove if he's ready or not. The winner of that fight could go ahead and get the winner of the next title fight.
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Post #11 5/26/08 12:16:37PM
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Sir_Karl
MMA Regular
Career record: 152-82
Season: 45-25 (#760)
Location: The Empire State
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Machida should get the shot for sure look at his record and who he has faced.
He consistently beats whomever they put in front of him.
He has been fighting in MMA for exactly 5 years...May 2003 to May 2008.
Look at the list of opponents he has "dispatched".
He has fought and won 5 times in the last 16 months alone...Hoger, Heath, Nakamura, Sokoudjou and Ortiz.
After the Griffin and Jackson match, Machida deserves the shot.
Wanderlei doesn't...three straight losses then a win over the up and down Jardine.
Liddell lost 2 in a row then a win over Wanderlei.
Rua lost to Griffin.
Thiago Silva hasn't faced top level opponents yet.
Rashad hasn't defeated a high quality opponent yet.
It really doesn't matter though....Machida will be the champion eventually.
No matter who they put in front of him.
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Post #12 5/26/08 2:07:08PM
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jae_1833
MMA Sensei
Career record: 146-94
Season: 38-32 (#2004)
Location: cali
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I would have to say that Machida has earned his shot IMO....however I would love for Rashad to fight Thiago Silva for the next shot. Chuck, Rua, Wand, while loved are still not strong enough in the W column for me to feel that they have earned that title shot yet. Sorry guys I love the classics too but even heroes have to die!
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Post #13 5/26/08 2:09:33PM
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tylerlee123
Standup Guy
Career record: 118-61
Season: 38-22 (#2457)
Location: New Brunswick
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Machida against Evans would make sense i just dont think Evans deserves it just yet
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Post #14 5/26/08 3:02:11PM
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blinkfenix2000
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 133-77
Season: 30-11 (#3907)
Location: Archbald, PA
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Jackson V. Griffin
Liddell V. Rua
W. Silva V. Machida
Evans V. Franklin
Jardine V. Alexander
T. Silva V. Sokoudjou
Hamil V. Irvin
pending some injuries healing...this is how I'd like to see the next few fights go down
also....Tito is already off of UFC.com
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Post #15 5/26/08 4:37:42PM
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