Heath Herring could replace Mark Coleman at UFC 87 |
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Coloss
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1st round- Lesnar by murder 
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Post #16 5/23/08 2:27:12PM
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billycarnage
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Herring is a studd! He has a lot left in him. He will beat Lesnar. He may take punishment but the guy can hang with the best (Big Nog, Fedor etc.). I think that this would be more exciting than the Coleman fight but gutsy on the UFC's behalf because Lesnar won't be impressing anyone on this night.
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Post #17 5/23/08 2:31:58PM
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The-Don
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This should be a clash of the titans kinda match.. both guys are strong.. Neither is afraid to stand and throw punches.. . I doubt this makes it past the first round... and I am not sure who would win at the point.. I'll have to watch some of the more recent Herring fights before I decide...
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Post #18 5/23/08 2:36:31PM
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gsquat
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Hmm. Seems as though Lesnar is the only one who has something to gain.
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Post #19 5/23/08 2:53:15PM
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ThePlague
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Posted by babytater03
Wow. I thought they would have protected that investment a little more.
My thoughts exactly. I'd be perfectly happy to see him fight someone like Eddie Sanchez or Soa Palalei.
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Post #20 5/23/08 2:55:08PM
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lordicast
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Posted by bigbubbano23
Posted by lordicast
YES YES YES, after this no WWE wrestler will ever crosstrain into MMA. Herring would make a clear cut example of lesner! 
yea ok dude. wait until you see the face off and then you tell me how confident you are.
Very Confident! Herring is top notch fighter, who fights the toughest competition!
So he didnt look that impressive over Kongo but who has??? Mirko?
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Post #21 5/23/08 2:58:02PM
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thatfedorsohotrightnow
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Posted by gsquat
Hmm. Seems as though Lesnar is the only one who has something to gain.
Last guy to beat Lesnar is a coach on TUF with a title shot. It seems Heath has plenty to gain.
I am shocked that UFC is putting this fight on. So, I Guess this is a #1 contender match. Lesnar is on the totally opposite path (in terms of quality fighters) from Kimbo. Lesnar's opponents> Kimbo's opponents.
Odds on the new matchup? I would guess fairly even but won't be surprissed if Lesnar is favored.
Last edited 5/23/08 3:04PM by thatfedorsohotrightnow
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Post #22 5/23/08 3:02:37PM
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Posted by pv3Hpv3p
Wow... A lot of you guys are seeming like this is a gimme for Lesnar.. This would be a super tough fight for him and I see Heath dominating it standing then pulling off a sub from his back, kimura would make sense to me
i defenately dont consider this a gimme for lesnar, but considering how easy O'brien controlled him and took him down, and how Nogueira took him down at will (who has bad takedowns), i dont see herring keeping this fight standing. From the top herring might pull of a sub, but i doubt it. I'd say lesnar takes a decision, since it would take alot to finish herring.
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Post #23 5/23/08 3:03:45PM
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rabbit915
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To me the one unknown in this fight is Lesnar's chin. We still dont know if he can take a punch. If he has a weak chin, then my money is on Herring. But if he can take a beating, i think he will overpower Herring.
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Post #24 5/23/08 3:13:58PM
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loller90278
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Posted by juanez13
Posted by pv3Hpv3p
Wow... A lot of you guys are seeming like this is a gimme for Lesnar.. This would be a super tough fight for him and I see Heath dominating it standing then pulling off a sub from his back, kimura would make sense to me
i defenately dont consider this a gimme for lesnar, but considering how easy O'brien controlled him and took him down, and how Nogueira took him down at will (who has bad takedowns), i dont see herring keeping this fight standing. From the top herring might pull of a sub, but i doubt it. I'd say lesnar takes a decision, since it would take alot to finish herring.
keep in mind that herring had a torn ACL in that fight.
if herring can last through the beginning onslaught, and sprawl and brawl through rounds, he should take this.
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Post #25 5/23/08 3:16:02PM
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lordicast
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Posted by loller90278
Posted by juanez13
Posted by pv3Hpv3p
Wow... A lot of you guys are seeming like this is a gimme for Lesnar.. This would be a super tough fight for him and I see Heath dominating it standing then pulling off a sub from his back, kimura would make sense to me
i defenately dont consider this a gimme for lesnar, but considering how easy O'brien controlled him and took him down, and how Nogueira took him down at will (who has bad takedowns), i dont see herring keeping this fight standing. From the top herring might pull of a sub, but i doubt it. I'd say lesnar takes a decision, since it would take alot to finish herring.
keep in mind that herring had a torn ACL in that fight.
if herring can last through the beginning onslaught, and sprawl and brawl through rounds, he should take this.
The begining onslaught should look similar to the Mir fight, but did you see Lesner face when he was G'n'Ping he looked stressed, nervous and was holding his breath. Watch the tape, your not going to last long holding your breath throwing punches. Cardio is going to win this fight somthing im sure herring knows is conditioning for a MMA fight. Some could argue that Lesner has conditioning because of his wrestling but keep in mind you dont throw full force punches in wrestling.
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Post #26 5/23/08 3:27:17PM
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I have no difficulty seeing Herring pull off a sub (kimoura most likely) from the bottom or anything of the sort... BUT i am exceedingly worried of Lesner's size, speed, and work Ethic being too much for Herring. I think he can weather the storm, but Herring has often neglected cardio in the past. I hope he continues with the new leaf he has turned over. I would love to see herring put Lesner away but im also a little worried as to how much Lesner has improved. Only reason i don't like this match up is because i like Herring and don't want to see him suffocated to death (or tko) by Lesner's immense Girth (ie laying on top of him and smothering him with his body mass for people who didn't get where i was going with that)
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Post #27 5/23/08 3:31:59PM
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Post #28 5/23/08 3:35:57PM
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The-Don
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Posted by ThePlague
Posted by babytater03
Wow. I thought they would have protected that investment a little more.
My thoughts exactly. I'd be perfectly happy to see him fight someone like Eddie Sanchez or Soa Palalei.
I am glad to see the UFC not giving brock roll over oppenents.. It is a trial by fire... I think over time brock will surprise people.. THis is still too tough a fight to call at the moment... That is if it is even finalized yet...
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Post #29 5/23/08 3:38:39PM
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gartface
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Posted by thatfedorsohotrightnow
Posted by gsquat
Hmm. Seems as though Lesnar is the only one who has something to gain.
Last guy to beat Lesnar is a coach on TUF with a title shot. It seems Heath has plenty to gain.
I am shocked that UFC is putting this fight on. So, I Guess this is a #1 contender match. Lesnar is on the totally opposite path (in terms of quality fighters) from Kimbo. Lesnar's opponents> Kimbo's opponents.
Odds on the new matchup? I would guess fairly even but won't be surprissed if Lesnar is favored.
Mir definitely didn't deserve that btw. And there really is nothing to gain for Herring. He needs to be fighting the winner of the Werdum/Vera fight.
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Post #30 5/23/08 3:44:56PM
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