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tomp6581
MMA Regular
Career record: 121-95
Season: 6-5 (#6631)
Location: Manchester, England
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Two things bother me about mma generally.....people who act as if Fedor is a god.....and people who underestimate Tim. This fight has brought these two elements together and have spawned some annoying points of view in terms of how this fight will go.
First let me say that Fedor is my favorate fighter, but it annoys me how much people hype him up as an unbeatable fighter. People need to realise that no-one is unbeatable at all.
As for the fight with Tim....people forget that styles make fights. Tim has a very long reach, a good jab and very good takedown defence. It took Nog a while to take him down, nearly getting ko'd in the proccess. Looking at that fight, it would be fair to say that in order for Fedor to take Tim down, he will have to take some punishment.....I have no doubt in my mind that when Fedor takes Tim down (which he will at some point), he will keep him there and GNP him till the end of the round/fight BUT the interensting part of this fight is Fedor getting Tim there.
Tim will absolutely want to use his long jab to keep Fedor away, aiming it at his scar tissue above his right eybrow will be a good tactic and will no dount cause a cut (see matt lindlands first punch in their fight).
People need to realisle this is Fedor's toughest fight in 3years. And Tim Sylvia is more than capable of winning. I would still say is still an underdog, but he matches up better than most against Fedor with his long jab, takedown defence and size.
Having said all that I still think Fedor will win via decision, but I it annoys me when people think this is a walk in the park. Is isnt at all.
Last edited 5/9/08 10:59AM by tomp6581
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Post #1 5/9/08 9:18:56AM
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If the old get my arm broken and don't feel it Timmy shows up Fedor is dead meat........
But the that Timmy has been regulated and so I'm really not sher who to pick for this fight....
But I am so thankful that it is going to happen 
Last edited 5/9/08 11:21AM by Kracker_Jap
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Post #2 5/9/08 11:21:15AM
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JWils
Standup Guy
Career record: 128-66
Season: 15-6 (#490)
Location: Southern Illinois
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Very good points. Sylvia always is a threat if the fight is standing. I can see him landing some very good shots and doing some damage to Fedor.
But, I feel the difference in this fight will be Fedor's explosiveness. Sylvia has very solid hands but sometimes he gets predictable with his "one-two" punching style. IMO, Fedor's takedowns are significantly better than Nog's. With that in mind, after a few minutes on the feet, I see Fedor timing some good shots and getting Tim to the mat where I feel Sylvia will not last very long.
I agree with you that Sylvia should not be discounted in this fight but I still think Fedor wins this fight fairly quickly by submission.
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Post #3 5/9/08 11:22:16AM
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jomatty
In Full Mount
Career record: 62-35
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: c-ville va
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the thing is though that fedor is capable of standing with tim as well. sure it is safer for him to put him on his back and pound on him but he can stand with him in a way that big nog was incapable of. i think this should be a good fight but think it is unlikely that big tim pulls it off.
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Post #4 5/9/08 2:44:01PM
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chubbud22
In Full Mount
Career record: 171-113
Season: 12-9 (#2902)
Location: Central Point OR
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I am just in disbelief that Fedor is fighting a legit Heavy weight. I cant wait for this fight, and am going to do everything in my power to attend this event live.
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Post #5 5/9/08 5:49:25PM
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ICSlegend
MMA Regular
Career record: 25-20
Season: 0-1 (#7660)
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Posted by chubbud22
I am just in disbelief that Fedor is fighting a legit Heavy weight. I cant wait for this fight, and am going to do everything in my power to attend this event live.
Elite K1 strikers are a lot more dangerous then Tim. What is Tim going to do sub Fedor?
Fedor has seen it all and dominated much better strikers with longer reach then Tim. I don't get why people are so excited about this fight. No one is unbeatable, but Tim just has no way to win this one. If Mir and AA can sub him, so can Fedor. And Fedor might just feel like Goodridging him as well.
It's just not that interesting of a matchup imo, but it will be fun to see Fedor destroying Tim after Tim ran his mouth about him a while ago.
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Post #6 5/9/08 6:57:00PM
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bigbubbano23
In Full Mount
Career record: 80-65
Season: 11-10 (#2902)
Location: the hills
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i have no idea how this fight will turn out but i have to say affliction is already putting up some good fights. and i think will be a big competitor with the ufc
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Post #7 5/9/08 6:59:00PM
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Dastardly1
MMA Regular
Career record: 52-40
Season: 13-6 (#3398)
Location: Coeur D'Alene,Idaho
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Fedor by 2nd rd sub or tko.
I think Tim gonna dish out some nice punches to Fedor and stuff a few take down shots,but weather in a ring or cage he's gonna get backed up into the corner,clinched and then tripped to the floor where he might get back to his feet once but not twice. Fedor seems to figure fighters out very quickly in fights and attack it.
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Post #8 5/9/08 8:45:01PM
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Mchubb316
Belt Contender
Career record: 186-102
Season: 14-7 (#1025)
Location: Southern Oregon
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Fedor is in for a big suprise, as is all the people who say Fedor cannot and will not be beat. Everytime Sylvia is counted out as losing it seems like he wins. Sylvia is just the person to beat Fedor, and show everyone that he is not the best P4P best in the world.
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Post #9 5/9/08 8:50:36PM
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ICSlegend
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Posted by Mchubb316
Fedor is in for a big suprise, as is all the people who say Fedor cannot and will not be beat. Everytime Sylvia is counted out as losing it seems like he wins. Sylvia is just the person to beat Fedor, and show everyone that he is not the best P4P best in the world.
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I say Fedor can and will be beat (Kharitonov, CC, and maybe Nastula are the ones to do it). Not a slow big guy with questionable sub defense. Fedor has proved this on mutliple occasions with bigger, faster, and better strikers. Tim has nothing for him.
I'd like to see GSP/Anderson/BJ take on K1 champs and see if they can win. Fedor is the P4P best until he loses (all the others have already lost).
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Post #10 5/10/08 11:00:34AM
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Career record: 107-51
Season: 14-7 (#644)
Location: Newcastle, UK
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Posted by ICSlegend
Posted by chubbud22
I am just in disbelief that Fedor is fighting a legit Heavy weight. I cant wait for this fight, and am going to do everything in my power to attend this event live.
Elite K1 strikers are a lot more dangerous then Tim. What is Tim going to do sub Fedor?
Fedor has seen it all and dominated much better strikers with longer reach then Tim. I don't get why people are so excited about this fight. No one is unbeatable, but Tim just has no way to win this one. If Mir and AA can sub him, so can Fedor. And Fedor might just feel like Goodridging him as well.
It's just not that interesting of a matchup imo, but it will be fun to see Fedor destroying Tim after Tim ran his mouth about him a while ago.
It must of been annoying typing all that with one hand. You should let go of fedors balls every once in a while and try typing with two, its easier 
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Post #11 5/10/08 11:28:21AM
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Mchubb316
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Career record: 186-102
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Posted by ICSlegend
Posted by Mchubb316
Fedor is in for a big suprise, as is all the people who say Fedor cannot and will not be beat. Everytime Sylvia is counted out as losing it seems like he wins. Sylvia is just the person to beat Fedor, and show everyone that he is not the best P4P best in the world.
Avatar bet?
I say Fedor can and will be beat (Kharitonov, CC, and maybe Nastula are the ones to do it). Not a slow big guy with questionable sub defense. Fedor has proved this on mutliple occasions with bigger, faster, and better strikers. Tim has nothing for him.
I'd like to see GSP/Anderson/BJ take on K1 champs and see if they can win. Fedor is the P4P best until he loses (all the others have already lost).
Fedor can beat Sylvia. I'm not saying he can't. To say that Sylvia has no chance of beating Fedor is absurd. Tim's sub defense has gotten better. Monson couldn't sub him, and Either could Randy. Tim was on the ground with those guys for a while. What I'm saying is Sylvia has more than a chance of beating Fedor.
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Post #12 5/10/08 12:26:58PM
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mrsmiley
MMA Sensei
Career record: 129-88
Season: 9-11 (#4887)
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I think Brandon Vera summed up this fight best.
http://www.mmanews.com/ufc/Awesome-Pre-UFC-65-Brandon-Vera-Interview-%5BPart-2%5D.html
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Post #13 5/10/08 4:17:36PM
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decken
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 63-34
Season: 6-2 (#5974)
Location: Idaho
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Posted by Mchubb316
Posted by ICSlegend
Posted by Mchubb316
Fedor is in for a big suprise, as is all the people who say Fedor cannot and will not be beat. Everytime Sylvia is counted out as losing it seems like he wins. Sylvia is just the person to beat Fedor, and show everyone that he is not the best P4P best in the world.
Avatar bet?
I say Fedor can and will be beat (Kharitonov, CC, and maybe Nastula are the ones to do it). Not a slow big guy with questionable sub defense. Fedor has proved this on mutliple occasions with bigger, faster, and better strikers. Tim has nothing for him.
I'd like to see GSP/Anderson/BJ take on K1 champs and see if they can win. Fedor is the P4P best until he loses (all the others have already lost).
Fedor can beat Sylvia. I'm not saying he can't. To say that Sylvia has no chance of beating Fedor is absurd. Tim's sub defense has gotten better. Monson couldn't sub him, and Either could Randy. Tim was on the ground with those guys for a while. What I'm saying is Sylvia has more than a chance of beating Fedor.
Hmmmm. Sylvia was subbed in last fight by a fighter fedor has beaten twice, randy himself admitted he is not a good submission fighter and Monson is like 5 feet tall. Plus 75% of Big Tims losses are from submissions. I do think Tim is one of the most underrated fighters and has a good chance if the fight stays standing but Fedor can sub tim. Plus has anyone seen a fight with fedor that didn't go to the ground at some point?
Last edited 5/10/08 11:53PM by decken
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Post #14 5/10/08 11:47:04PM
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ICSlegend
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Posted by Mchubb316
Fedor can beat Sylvia. I'm not saying he can't. To say that Sylvia has no chance of beating Fedor is absurd. Tim's sub defense has gotten better. Monson couldn't sub him, and Either could Randy. Tim was on the ground with those guys for a while. What I'm saying is Sylvia has more than a chance of beating Fedor.
You're right, to say he has no chance is absurd. It's MMA, anything is possible. But judging from their resume of fights, Tim has nothing Fedor hasn't handled before. All I said.
Posted by Aaronno9
It must of been annoying typing all that with one hand. You should let go of fedors balls every once in a while and try typing with two, its easier
Yeah, typing with 2 hands is easier, which is why I always do. Try using your brain before you type anything. I don't even like Fedor. I hope Kharitonov and CC destroy him, and I think they will if they get to fight him. If you're not blind you would see Tim has almost no chance.
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Post #15 5/10/08 11:51:42PM
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