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CCPRIDE99
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this discussion came up in school today so id just like to hear some opinions
put down your top five most overrated and underrated guys and elaborate on the guys opinions above you
Most overrated:
#5-Diego Sanchez
#4-Spencer Fisher
#3-Antonio Nogueira
#2-Kimbo Slice
#1-BJ penn
Most underrated:
#5-Nick Diaz
#4-Marcus Davis
#3-Sean Sherk
#2-Paulo Flho
#1-Josh Koscheck
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Post #1 5/6/08 3:35:06PM
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Twenty20Dollars
MMA Sensei
Career record: 168-91
Season: 47-23 (#640)
Location: KC,MO
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bj penn is not overrated. he is rated very well.
paulo filho is overrated. i dont think he does well againest top contenders IMO.
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Post #2 5/6/08 3:38:20PM
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KYGUY07
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Career record: 193-102
Season: 42-28 (#1653)
Location: KY
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Posted by CCPRIDE99
this discussion came up in school today so id just like to hear some opinions
put down your top five most overrated and underrated guys and elaborate on the guys opinions above you
Most overrated:
#5-Diego Sanchez
#4-Spencer Fisher
#3-Antonio Nogueira
#2-Kimbo Slice
#1-BJ penn
Most underrated:
#5-Nick Diaz
#4-Marcus Davis
#3-Sean Sherk
#2-Paulo Flho
#1-Josh Koscheck
I agree with the fisher and kimbo being overrated, but I cant see how anybody can say Nog, or Bj are overrated.
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Post #3 5/6/08 3:38:46PM
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The People's Mod
Career record: 152-91
Season: 47-23 (#137)
Location: Getting choked out or arm barred
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Wow... just.... wow. BJ Penn most overrated fighter? Haha.
I'm going to say
Most overrated-
#5 Rashad Evans
#4 Brandon Vera
#3 Houston Alexander
#2 Kimbo Slice
#1 Brock Lesnar
Most underrated
#5 Aleksander Emelianenko
#4 Joachim "Hellboy" Hansen
#3 Clay Guida (mostly based on very controversial decisions)
#2 Frank Mir (due to the fact that most people's knowledge on him is based on his first couple of post accident fights)
#1 Tim Sylvia
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Post #4 5/6/08 3:49:25PM
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Ben_Hutch
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Career record: 116-73
Season: 45-25 (#1674)
Location: London
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Posted by CCPRIDE99
this discussion came up in school today so id just like to hear some opinions
put down your top five most overrated and underrated guys and elaborate on the guys opinions above you
Most overrated:
#5-Diego Sanchez
#4-Spencer Fisher
#3-Antonio Nogueira
#2-Kimbo Slice
#1-BJ penn
Most underrated:
#5-Nick Diaz
#4-Marcus Davis
#3-Sean Sherk
#2-Paulo Flho
#1-Josh Koscheck
Diego Sanchez is not overrated, he's a class fighter.
BJ Penn is no way overrated, he is one of the best all-round mixed martial artists and the best LW in the world.
Marcus Davis is becoming recognized as a lethal force in the WW division, he is now well rated.
Sean Sherk is not underrated, he was the LW champ before being done for steroids, hard to say an ex champ is overrated, especially when he never lost his title.
Koscheck is very well rated, he has brilliant wrestling, his last loss was to GSP, which as we all know is nothing to be ashamed of.
Not looking for an argument bro, just my point of view.
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Post #5 5/6/08 3:57:05PM
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ToeZup
MMA Regular
Career record: 91-53
Season: 44-26 (#484)
Location: CT
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I like your underrated fighters list.
I think Jeremy Stephens is a very underrated lightweight as well.
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Post #6 5/6/08 4:43:07PM
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Career record: 116-60
Season: 45-21 (#854)
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i agree that Filho is very overrated as is kimbo.
i think diaz is underrated,
AND LET'S NOT FORGET MATT SERRA
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Post #7 5/6/08 5:21:56PM
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i dont think Noguiera is overrated, other than Fedor there are very few people that can beat him. BJ is another guy i would take off.
I also wouldnt consider brock lesnar overrated, as its just hype because of his background, its more people interested in what he can do in a real fight, its not people saying that he is world Class already. To me i see him as a guy with alot of natural ability, whether he can learn is another thing.
IMO is also believe Paulo filho is OVERrated, by most he is ranked top 3 in the world, which i dont believe he is. I think anyone with Ok Jits, and decent wrestling would beat him. against the guys on top i cant see him doing too well.
Most Underrated->
Defenately Joachim Hansen. also Eddie alvarez. although he hasnt shown all he has yet i believe he has great potential.
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Nick diaz is also a guy i could never see as a champ, his wrestling is his biggest downfall, and anyone that can defend the subs and control him would beat him IMO.
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Post #8 5/6/08 5:30:04PM
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CCPRIDE99
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Season: 46-24 (#691)
Location: comstock, michigan
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i said sherk is underrated to the guy who said i thought he was overrated. i feel this way because he is the #1 lightwieght in the world and i dont think bj has ever beaten any top guys other than matt hughes and everyone saw what happened when they fought again
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Post #9 5/6/08 6:06:11PM
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Ben_Hutch
Banned
Career record: 116-73
Season: 45-25 (#1674)
Location: London
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Gray Maynard is a very underrated LW.
Last edited 5/6/08 6:49PM by Ben_Hutch
Edit note/reason: n/a
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Post #10 5/6/08 6:48:46PM
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chickmagnet
Standup Guy
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Season: 40-25 (#2322)
Location: Cali
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Posted by CCPRIDE99
i said sherk is underrated to the guy who said i thought he was overrated. i feel this way because he is the #1 lightwieght in the world and i dont think bj has ever beaten any top guys other than matt hughes and everyone saw what happened when they fought again
No way.
First BJ is far from overrated. He is top 5 p4p. BJ walked through Hughes the first fight. Yeah we all know what happened in the second fight...BJ was owning him BADLY until he broke his rib, and if you have ever have had a broken rib, it's pretty hard to breath FYE. So to say BJ is overrated is not very smart. BJ I believe won the St. Pierre fight if you have ever seen it, he mauled St. Pierre on the feet and it was even on the ground. He's gonna outclass Sherk in every aspect of their fight, watch and see.
By the way, Takanori Gomi is another victm of Penn's, same with Matt Serra. To say they are not top guys at 155 would be foolish.
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Post #11 5/6/08 6:56:20PM
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Decision
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 76-45
Season: 44-25 (#1469)
Location: Sacramento
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Posted by Ben_Hutch
Gray Maynard is a very underrated LW.
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Post #12 5/6/08 7:07:07PM
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GSPCanada
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Season: 48-20 (#347)
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Nog is overrated? he's the #2 heavyweight in the world. unless you rate him #1 he is not overrrated, most ridiculous statement I've ever heard.
Bj Penn is not overrated especially at 155 w/ onyl 2 loss to pulver thats been avaenged, if you say bj is #2 lightweight in the world you are underrating him.
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Post #13 5/6/08 7:10:36PM
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XblacksheepX
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 169-87
Season: 46-24 (#735)
Location: Germany
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Paulo Filho didn't look that good in his last fights in the wec. but still he won and if you're looking on his perfect record while fighting very tough opponents in pride in the past i don't think he's overrated at all. Still don't understand why zuffa didn't take him to the ufc, where the middleweight division is pretty weak right now.
When it comes to overating fighters its because of the hype that wasn't proofed. Sean Sherk for example for me is a very good wrestler with a good chin, but when it comes to other areas he isn't close to a top ten position. He wins his fights with boring lay n pray most of the time.
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Post #14 5/6/08 8:16:37PM
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prozacnation1978
MMA Sensei
Career record: 174-77
Season: 49-21 (#254)
Location: san diego
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most overated is fihlo, kimbo, bisping, kendall grove
underated maybe okami, or maynard, or davis
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Post #15 5/6/08 8:34:19PM
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