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One of my passions in life is technology. I’m obsessed with gizmos and gadgets and am all but in love with my iPhone.
A friend who knows about my obsession had a computer he wanted to sell on eBay and asked me what I felt it was worth. He went to a Web site that showed an estimated street value, one I felt was considerably too high.
He argued that his asking price was justified because this web site was made up of experts and they agreed with him.
True, I said, but something is only worth what someone else will pay for it. And when we went to eBay and looked at completed listings for a computer with specs similar to his, he was shocked. People were only paying about half of what he thought he could get.
And that same analogy is true when it comes to fighter compensation. There is a lot of debate in the mixed martial arts media over what the UFC pays its fighters. It’s easy to take the stance that the fighters deserve more pay.
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Post #1 4/30/08 1:36:18PM
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Tein_Lung
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MMA has ecliped Boxing in popularity yet boxers make more then 10 times what MMA fighters make... IMO something is very wrong with that
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Post #2 4/30/08 1:40:09PM
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The People's Mod
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Great article. Very eye opening.
My main gripe is still medical bills not being paid for by the UFC. Like the pre-fight screenings, and injuries sustained during the fights.
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Post #3 4/30/08 2:03:50PM
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!!!!!50% of gross revenue for fighter pay!!!!!
Spread the word of 50% of gross revenue for fighter pay. NFL currently gives the players almost 60% of gross revenue. NBA, MLB and NHL are all over 50%. This is the standard split of money in modern pro sports.
It is irrelevent if UFC has debt from starting this business. That is their problem. They could never post a "profit" if they so choose by use of creative accounting.
Anyone that sites sponsorship as a reason for low pay is a tool. Should Peyton Manning get less salary from the Colts since he gets so much from comercials?
Spread the word in every thread about fighter pay, 50% of GROSS revenue for fighter pay!
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Post #4 4/30/08 2:15:32PM
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The Big Ape
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Posted by Tein_Lung
MMA has ecliped Boxing in popularity yet boxers make more then 10 times what MMA fighters make... IMO something is very wrong with that
Did you read the article. Only the top boxer makes money the rest make very little. Alot of the fighters in the UFC actaully make more than boxers.
People please read articles before posting your anti UFC comments.
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Post #5 4/30/08 2:33:19PM
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Posted by thatfedorsohotrightnow
!!!!!50% of gross revenue for fighter pay!!!!!
Spread the word of 50% of gross revenue for fighter pay. NFL currently gives the players almost 60% of gross revenue. NBA, MLB and NHL are all over 50%. This is the standard split of money in modern pro sports.
It is irrelevent if UFC has debt from starting this business. That is their problem. They could never post a "profit" if they so choose by use of creative accounting.
Anyone that sites sponsorship as a reason for low pay is a tool. Should Peyton Manning get less salary from the Colts since he gets so much from comercials?
Spread the word in every thread about fighter pay, 50% of GROSS revenue for fighter pay!
Do you post this in every thread. It is starting to sound like spam.
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Post #6 4/30/08 2:35:10PM
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Keeping the pimp hand strong
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Posted by Jackelope
Great article. Very eye opening.
My main gripe is still medical bills not being paid for by the UFC. Like the pre-fight screenings, and injuries sustained during the fights.
The UFC does cover medical bills do little research on it and you will see the only person to even say anything about medical was Kalib Starnes who later came out and said he never said they don't cover medical bills and was in the process of filling a claim to have them cover his broken foot.
Posted by Tein_Lung
MMA has ecliped Boxing in popularity yet boxers make more then 10 times what MMA fighters make... IMO something is very wrong with that
I don't even think you read the article.
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Post #7 4/30/08 2:46:58PM
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Posted by Jackelope
Great article. Very eye opening.
My main gripe is still medical bills not being paid for by the UFC. Like the pre-fight screenings, and injuries sustained during the fights.
The UFC does cover medical bills do little research on it and you will see the only person to even say anything about medical was Kalib Starnes who later came out and said he never said they don't cover medical bills and was in the process of filling a claim to have them cover his broken foot.
Posted by Tein_Lung
MMA has ecliped Boxing in popularity yet boxers make more then 10 times what MMA fighters make... IMO something is very wrong with that
I don't even think you read the article.
Sometimes I think we are the only two not on the Anti-UFC train.
I found the following comment regarding this article on another website. Thought it was fitting.
People are always talking about boxing's pay, when boxing's pay is WORSE for the vast majority of fighters. You'll almost never find people making $80k for a second or third fight on a boxing card, but it happens quite a bit in the UFC.
We are headed for a boxing type system, which sucks. Soon we'll have one megafight with a bunch of super shitty fights. Chuck or Randy's pay will go up to $5 million per fight, but the lesser guys will go down from $15k to $5k. I hope all the bitchers will be happy then, cause it seems like that is what they want.
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Post #8 4/30/08 2:48:46PM
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Posted by Darnok
Posted by telnights
Posted by Jackelope
Great article. Very eye opening.
My main gripe is still medical bills not being paid for by the UFC. Like the pre-fight screenings, and injuries sustained during the fights.
The UFC does cover medical bills do little research on it and you will see the only person to even say anything about medical was Kalib Starnes who later came out and said he never said they don't cover medical bills and was in the process of filling a claim to have them cover his broken foot.
Posted by Tein_Lung
MMA has ecliped Boxing in popularity yet boxers make more then 10 times what MMA fighters make... IMO something is very wrong with that
I don't even think you read the article.
Sometimes I think we are the only two not on the Anti-UFC train.
<------ Im not on that anti train either.
If salary was a problem then why dont we see more fighters in the news speaking about it.I dont havent ever read or heard GSP,Rampage,Anderson,BJ,NOG,Franklin,Hughes,Sherk,Forrest,and the rest of the top UFC minus Randy bitching about pay.
Comparing MMA with football and Basketball and Baseball and how its 50% gross well..Football thats 16 Games,NHL 82,MLB 162,and NBA 82...Now compare 50% of that to a guy who fights maybe 3 times a year...
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Post #9 4/30/08 3:01:26PM
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I found it very interesting to read how much guys are making from sponsors....
I would have my entire trunks covered in ads to make that kind of coin.... 
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Post #10 4/30/08 3:08:35PM
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I just post it in theads about fighter pay. You should too.
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Post #11 4/30/08 3:11:54PM
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I just post it in theads about fighter pay. You should too.
Why I think they are paid just fine. I don't want this to turn into boxing with one high paid fighter and the rest crappy low paid fighters on each card. That would suck.
Are you Randy's Bolywood agent
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Post #12 4/30/08 3:20:25PM
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Posted by telnights
Posted by Jackelope
Great article. Very eye opening.
My main gripe is still medical bills not being paid for by the UFC. Like the pre-fight screenings, and injuries sustained during the fights.
The UFC does cover medical bills do little research on it and you will see the only person to even say anything about medical was Kalib Starnes who later came out and said he never said they don't cover medical bills and was in the process of filling a claim to have them cover his broken foot.
I guess nobody can get the story straight. Everyone is pushing their agenda and saying "this and that" I really want to know what the truth behind it is.
One part of me says that legally it's impossible for them to not cover medical expenses.
Another part of me says from experience that gripes and complaints don't come out of nowhere when seen in more than one instance. That's just general life experience speaking there.
So ultimately, I try to view the situation objectively, and I'm not "anti UFC" but something is not hooking up here. It's really starting to frustrate the shit out of me.
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Post #13 4/30/08 3:38:11PM
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Posted by telnights
Posted by Tein_Lung
MMA has ecliped Boxing in popularity yet boxers make more then 10 times what MMA fighters make... IMO something is very wrong with that
I don't even think you read the article.
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Post #14 4/30/08 4:30:06PM
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fighters are paid by there performance its pretty fair they could go up a little but they are pretty well taken care of IMO i do not know as ive not looken into it but if the medical bills are not covered by the UFC i think that should change cuz thats bullshit but i dont see how they managed to pull that one of, the fights should put together UFCFA lol, for those a little slow its ultimate fighting championship fighters association, like a union haha
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