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Gipper
RIP Evan Tanner 1971-2008
Career record: 176-110
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hows it going? who's the better fighter? jake shields or jon fitch? i would usually have an opinion on these things but these 2 fighters in my mind are to close to call. i have fitch #3 and shields #4 in my rankings.
jake shields- 20-4-1 mma- 9 fight win streak- 13-1-1 in last 15 fights- wins over sakurai, okami, condit, pyle
jon fitch- 17-2 mma- 15 fight win streak- wins over sanchez, alves, larson, burkman
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Post #1 4/29/08 12:27:39PM
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CantAndleDaRiddum
I Got My Black Belt in MMA
Career record: 145-93
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i love fitch, but im taking shields in ths one by gnp
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Post #2 4/29/08 1:13:49PM
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Gladiator
In Full Mount
Career record: 704-438
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Wichita, KS
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Very tough call, both are/were pretty much the dark horses of their division. I'd go with fitch considering the opponents hes beaten, notably sanchez and alves.
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Post #3 4/29/08 1:14:35PM
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babytater03
In Full Mount
Career record: 580-374
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Location: Jacksonville, FL
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that is a touuuugh call.
I think i would have to go with Fitch though i'm not 100% on that. I'd have to think about it before making a bet on that one.
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Post #4 4/29/08 1:38:28PM
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Cladrix
Standup Guy
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Very close call on this match........ Id have to take Shields by very very close decision
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Post #5 4/29/08 1:46:40PM
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Remember Paul Herrera
Career record: 1039-551
Season: 42-17 (#27)
Location: You think you can tell heaven from hell?
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Shields
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BJ Penn beat Frankie Edgar more times than Benson Henderson beat Frankie Edgar.
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Post #6 4/29/08 2:01:52PM
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juanez13
P4P
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Fitch by split D
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Post #7 4/29/08 2:07:48PM
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40ouncetofreedom
banned
Career record: 293-156
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Pennsylvania
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Fitch.
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Post #8 4/29/08 4:11:45PM
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fedorwins1
MMA Sensei
Career record: 272-134
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Amish Country aka Pennsylvania
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Shields. The guy is so well rounded. He beats Jon in everything except wrestling IMO.
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Post #9 4/29/08 4:34:23PM
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jiujitsufreak74
,,[],, *******,,[],,
Career record: 738-406
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Location: east islip, new york
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Posted by fedorwins1
Shields. The guy is so well rounded. He beats Jon in everything except wrestling IMO.
exactly, and it will be Fitch's slight advantage in the wrestling department that grinds out a decision for him. both f these fighters rely on wrestling and have styles that utilize their wrestling, and even if Shields has an edge standing up, if Fitch controls the majority of the fight with his wrestling then he wins it.
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Post #10 4/29/08 4:40:39PM
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fedorwins1
MMA Sensei
Career record: 272-134
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Posted by jiujitsufreak74
Posted by fedorwins1
Shields. The guy is so well rounded. He beats Jon in everything except wrestling IMO.
exactly, and it will be Fitch's slight advantage in the wrestling department that grinds out a decision for him. both f these fighters rely on wrestling and have styles that utilize their wrestling, and even if Shields has an edge standing up, if Fitch controls the majority of the fight with his wrestling then he wins it.
Fitch's wrestling didn't seem to help him very much here. He was swept two times and Shields was basically toying with him and totally outclassed him.
Shields embarasses Fitch
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Post #11 4/30/08 3:35:23PM
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jiujitsufreak74
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Posted by fedorwins1
Posted by jiujitsufreak74
Posted by fedorwins1
Shields. The guy is so well rounded. He beats Jon in everything except wrestling IMO.
exactly, and it will be Fitch's slight advantage in the wrestling department that grinds out a decision for him. both f these fighters rely on wrestling and have styles that utilize their wrestling, and even if Shields has an edge standing up, if Fitch controls the majority of the fight with his wrestling then he wins it.
Fitch's wrestling didn't seem to help him very much here. He was swept two times and Shields was basically toying with him and totally outclassed him.
Shields embarasses Fitch
but at this point int heir careers i believe Fitch's wrestling better incorporates into MMA then Shields'. i guess we will never find out 
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Post #12 4/30/08 3:38:03PM
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warglory
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 474-323
Season: 9-5 (#2066)
Location: Portland, ME
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Posted by fedorwins1
Posted by jiujitsufreak74
Posted by fedorwins1
Shields. The guy is so well rounded. He beats Jon in everything except wrestling IMO.
exactly, and it will be Fitch's slight advantage in the wrestling department that grinds out a decision for him. both f these fighters rely on wrestling and have styles that utilize their wrestling, and even if Shields has an edge standing up, if Fitch controls the majority of the fight with his wrestling then he wins it.
Fitch's wrestling didn't seem to help him very much here. He was swept two times and Shields was basically toying with him and totally outclassed him.
Shields embarasses Fitch
He didn't get embarrassed or outclassed. Shields is obviously a superior BJJ practitioner considering he is a student of Cesar Gracie, and engaging Fitch who is trained in greco roman in a grappling match obviously put Fitch at a disadvantage. Had Fitch's pedigree been in catch wrestling, this match may have been different. Still though, Fitch was able to pass into Shields' half guard twice and keep the superior BJJ guy on his back while denying submissions for quite a while. I thought Fitch performed quite well.
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Post #13 4/30/08 7:51:29PM
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warglory
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 474-323
Season: 9-5 (#2066)
Location: Portland, ME
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And to answer the original question, I feel that Fitch would win. I think his striking is superior, as well as his strength and wrestling. And as we have all seen, its very very difficult to submit him. I think Shields would be very frustrated not being able to stand with Fitch and not being able to take him down/keep him down. Shields is a damn good fighter, but I just think Fitch is a tad better.
Last edited 4/30/08 7:57PM by warglory
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Post #14 4/30/08 7:56:58PM
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kimoron
MMA Regular
Career record: 389-235
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: San Mateo
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tough call. both guys know each other very well and i think both are capable of beating the other. i take shields.
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Post #15 4/30/08 9:04:40PM
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