If you were Brandon Vera, what would you do? |
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a1strait
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 202-110
Season: 22-14 (#5250)
Location: Canada
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i believe he was the real deal of the ufc heavyweights and career wise it would be better to stay in the ufc but when another company is offering twice as more money its hard to turn down. MONEY TALKS!!!!
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Post #1 2/21/07 1:18:36PM
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MrGreeny
MMA Regular
Career record: 203-122
Season: 32-27 (#3078)
Location: Germany
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Money really talks but if his brain talks louder, he will stay in the UFC... As i said in another topic, he is 1-3 fights from starting 'selling shows' and then he will surely be payed a lot more.... And UFC means popularity... Money do not always win fans... Any rumors about the 'other company' ? Bodog? ElieXC?
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Post #2 2/21/07 4:29:09PM
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hathcock32
In Full Mount
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Career record: 220-116
Season: 50-20 (#147)
Location: San Diego
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I often go down to the gym where Brandon Vera trains at CITY BOXING in downtown SD ...he gets a lot of radio time out here in San Diego...and he thinks hes quite the superstar..so he will probably take the biggest offer...but we hope he will stay with the big boys
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Post #3 2/21/07 4:32:10PM
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DirtySouthBoss
MMA Regular
Career record: 18-21
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Florida
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True, if he stays in the UFC and keeps making a big name for himself than he could probably make the money back from advertising just for the fact that the UFC has been exploding and has way more eyeballs on it. The better comp that a fighter faces eventually they will get more money in the long run.
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Post #4 2/21/07 4:58:38PM
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waylon_o
In Full Mount
Career record: 162-90
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Jackson, MO
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If I were Brandon Vera, I would tuck my head between my legs and kiss my ass goodbye because after the last fight on his UFC contract, we will never see him in the big show again. He has tons of potential, but IMO he's throwing it away. He may get 1 or 2 big paychecks, but they're not gonna keep coming unless he stays with UFC.
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Post #5 2/21/07 5:01:33PM
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MMADB.com
Career record: 227-118
Season: 51-19 (#50)
Location: Toronto
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Is there a reason that nobody seems to think Elite XC can last? Did I miss the memo or something? Sure, they supposedly offered Vera a huge contract but it remains to be seen what's actually going to happen. I have high hopes for Elite XC to get better over time and not be the next WFA of the MMA world.
As for Vera, in the words of Steve Miller...take the money and run.
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Post #6 2/21/07 5:37:54PM
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Boondock Saints Mod
Career record: 220-126
Season: 50-20 (#137)
Location: California
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As for me, I don't think EliteCX will last if their first event is anything to judge by.I think Vera won't get the money he thinks because the company will go under before he gets paid it all. I'll give you my reasons why IMO they will fail
1. Gary Shaw: Promoter- One of the guys who has helped mess up boxing. Stupid ideas like the 15 second clock don't help. Dana got out boxing because of guys like him
2. Lack of top fighter's- When Shamrock/Gracie is your hook because of their last names only it doesn't bode well. They have some guys with potential top 10 status ( Villasenor/ JR. Silva) and some with past top 10 staus ( F.Shamrock/Loiseau/Ninja Rua) but no one I would rank their now personally.
3. Anticlimactic main event- The way that fight ended was a disaster . Any new fans watching it might have been turned off from MMA. Diehards watch it all, but we are not who they need to reach to remain competitive.
4.Bad production- Cheesy dragon. Poor camera angles. Bad announcing. And stripper like ring girls attempting to dance provocatively make MMA look bad to me.
5. Walk away free card- Showtime signed a potential 3 year deal with EliteXC. EliteXC is a new company formed with Jay Penn( Bj's brother) owner of rumble on the rock -where a lot of their fighter's come from. Big corporations always protect themselves through layer's. Smaller corps. /dummy corps. etc. If it doesn't go well a year in they can just bankrupt EliteXC. Showtime walks away and Penn goes back and reopens rumble on the rock.
I would understand Vera wanting to go there for a million plus a fight if I though it would work. I guess if he gets 4 fights he's probably set for life. He still has about 4- 6 months to go before he's even released from the UFC. I hope EliteXC makes it becase I want to see more MMA, and want it to grow. However, I think unless something drastic changes in how they are run, they won't last long. Vera's time may run out before he get's to cash them big checks. The UFC will definately be here a long time.... Clocks tickin for Vera and EliteXC IMO.
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Post #7 2/21/07 6:02:56PM
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MMADB.com
Career record: 227-118
Season: 51-19 (#50)
Location: Toronto
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For their first time out I think they did a good job, not great, but good. I mean, it seems like people are expecting gold right out of the gates. I think people need to be a little less harsh on their critique of the first event, I think come the third event or so we'll have an idea on whether Elite XC is improving or getting worse. I can't think of a single MMA organization that started up and was magically a hit right away.
They put on a better show than WFA v2.0 did and lord knows it was better than Bodog's first PPV attempt. Was anyone honestly expecting it to be UFC quality production right out of the gates? I think whoever thought that may be dillusional.
P.S. Gary Shaw is in fact a douchebag but that doesn't mean he's a failure just yet.
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Post #8 2/21/07 6:14:18PM
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JoeMimic
MMA Regular
Career record: 222-125
Season: 47-23 (#471)
Location: Salem,Oregon
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How'd that song go....Take the money and run?
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Post #9 2/21/07 6:36:25PM
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bayonetxwork
In Full Mount
Career record: 94-54
Season: 5-2 (#7908)
Location: Baltimore, Maryland
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Man, he doesn't deserve the money that he wants yet. All he has to do is stay in the UFC a little longer, pick up a few more W's, and maybe a belt and he'll definitely get what hes been wanting.
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Post #10 2/21/07 7:00:39PM
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MMADB.com
Career record: 227-118
Season: 51-19 (#50)
Location: Toronto
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And what if he loses and thus never gets offered a big pay day again because of it? Why even take that risk. There is no guarantee he is going to be a champion or making a big pay day in the UFC. I see this as a simple choice for Vera. You take the big pay day, if Elite XC goes belly up and he doesn't lose there in the process, he'll still be undefeated and a highly coveted commodity. Dana is smart enough not to say never when it comes to business. He'd take him back in a second if it would make him money.
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Post #11 2/21/07 7:40:57PM
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xchickox
In Full Mount
Career record: 220-127
Season: 46-24 (#1331)
Location: Stoke-On-Trent
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i dunno, money can only do so much for you....beating the best heavyweights in the world would make me feel a hell of a lot better than double the money i was getting would
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Post #12 2/21/07 7:48:58PM
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MMADB.com
Career record: 227-118
Season: 51-19 (#50)
Location: Toronto
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Not if you're a greedy prick.
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Post #13 2/21/07 8:18:08PM
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www-WeLoan-us
Standup Guy
Career record: 189-124
Season: 28-21 (#4027)
Location: Florida
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Iceman gets about 250,000 a fight
Cro Cop about 350,000
Vera is good but come on he wants 1 mill a fight and a 1.5 mil signing bonus LOL. That is a slap to everyone in the UFC. Stay Small Vera
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Post #14 2/22/07 9:47:38AM
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MattHughes
MMA Regular
Career record: 87-35
Season: 4-1 (#8353)
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If it was me in Vera's position I would stay with the UFC. For me if I made it big time like Vera my dream would be to become a UFC champion, I personally love the UFC and its my favorite organization by far. The money the UFC was paying was im sure more than enough and once he become bigger in the UFC than the pay would go up.
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Post #15 2/22/07 10:34:50AM
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