Anderson Silva: Greatest champion in UFC history. |
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The Spider has had 4 consecutive defenses of his UFC belt. I don't know if you've realized it, but this already puts him in elite company. Rich Franklin had 2 successful defenses. Tim Sylvia also had 2, I believe. I think Chuck Liddell had 4. Matt Hughes had 5, if I remember correctly.
Looking at Silva's upcoming competition, I see him getting four more:
Yushin Okami and Silva each won convincingly at UFC 82, and to my knowledge, neither suffered any notable injury. They could easily meet in the Octagon in June or July. Silva by 1st-round TKO.
Patrick Cote is on a 3-fight run in the Octagon, with 4 consecutive wins overall. His last loss was the quick armbar by Lutter at the TUF4 Finale, and Cote can also pad his CV with a non-UFC win over Jason MacDonald 2 years ago. With one more win over a convincing opponent, Cote could get a title shot in December. Silva by 1st-round Submission.
It's been almost 2 years since Chris Leben got jumped in an alley by 4 guys named Right Fist, Left Fist, Right Knee and Left Foot. He's looked pretty good in his last two fights, and in February or March of next year, I think he'll be ready to get some payback. Silva by 1st-round TKO.
Michael Bisping is taking his 14-1 record and well-rounded game down to the Middleweight division. I could see him running off 3 or 4 wins and getting a title shot in the late Spring of '09. Silva by 1st-round TKO.
By then, Nate Marquardt or Travis Lutter could be ready for a rematch, Evan Tanner could have discovered the Fountain of Youth, Dana White could have had a tearful reunion with Matt Lindland, Dan Henderson could have decided that he's better than that, or somebody like Chael Sonnen or Frank Trigg could make a return to the Octagon. Silva by 2nd-round TKO.
8 or 10 consecutive title defenses against some decent-to-great competition puts Silva in the UFC Hall of Fame at the age of 35.
So, like I said, Anderson Silva: Greatest champion in UFC history. 
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Post #1 3/5/08 4:49:27PM
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I would like to see Silva and Lawler throw down. That would be a fight to get excited about. I'm not sure how many fights Lawler has on his current contract, but I'm sure the UFC will want him back if he continues to improve.
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Post #2 3/5/08 4:53:23PM
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Good points, but don't speak too soon. I wouldn't count Okami out. If Silva fought Okami as he fought Lutter (knee surgery that is), we may very well see a new champion, and I bet Dana will delay Silva's title shot as long as possible.
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Post #3 3/5/08 4:54:10PM
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I would like to see Silva and Lawler throw down. That would be a fight to get excited about. I'm not sure how many fights Lawler has on his current contract, but I'm sure the UFC will want him back if he continues to improve.
Yeah, there are a few guys out there at 185 who could be solid contenders in the UFC. It seems like Frank Shamrock isn't interested in rebuilding any bridges, unfortunately.
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Good points, but don't speak too soon. I wouldn't count Okami out. If Silva fought Okami as he fought Lutter (knee surgery that is), we may very well see a new champion, and I bet Dana will delay Silva's title shot as long as possible.
I'm not "counting him out", I'm saying he's going to lose. 
And yes, there's no telling how the UFC will arrange Silva's schedule over the next two years. It's entirely possible that they'll set him up as a coach for "TUF Brazil" or something.
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Post #4 3/5/08 5:15:24PM
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Greatest champion in UFC history.
I dont know if he'll stay at 185 for that long though. I think he'll move up to 205 when he has cleared the division entirely and firmly established his legacy. Theres much better competition in that division and MW is almost Completely void of it.
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Post #5 3/5/08 6:50:26PM
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i think if he retired he would be in the ufc hall of fame,
silva's streak is much better than tito ortiz's run, this streak will beat matt hughes's but then again silva opponent 's are top of the food chain in the middleweight, leban was undefeated , frankin, hendo, and marquadt are in the top 5, hughes did beat gracie, bj penn , gsp but also lost to gsp, penn, beat trigg twice but silva beat franklin twice, hughes did beat sherk, hard to compare, but i think another win maybe two and there will be no doubt on anyone's mind
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Post #6 3/5/08 7:01:23PM
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Greatest champion in UFC History by far. He's the only man to clean out a whole division.
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Post #7 3/5/08 7:17:09PM
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Greatest champion in UFC history.
Is there an echo in here?
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I dont know if he'll stay at 185 for that long though. I think he'll move up to 205 when he has cleared the division entirely and firmly established his legacy. Theres much better competition in that division and MW is almost Completely void of it.
Yes, this is also possible. Silva would be a Top-10 fighter at Light-Heavyweight, (almost) sight unseen. I'd give him at least even odds against sluggers like Wanderlei Silva and Chuck Liddell, and might even pick him to win.
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Post #8 3/5/08 7:20:12PM
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One division has on clearing out a whole planent of contenders like Gracie has. Come on the man took on and demolished all before him, give the first true champ some respect.
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Post #9 3/5/08 8:06:57PM
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I know he may well smash the title defense record as i don't see him losing the next few fights.
You also have got to take into consideration that the MW devision is probably the weakest devision next to the HW devision in the UFC. If Silva does string together more wins personally I wouldn't rate it as good as if Rampage or GSP got the same or even 1 or 2 less.
I'm not taking anything away from him as he is undoubtedly a amazing fighter but he's not fighting the same level of competition as the LHW as other devisions.
That being said I still see him going down as one of if no the greatest MW ever.
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Post #10 3/5/08 9:23:44PM
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i would love to see a catch weight fight between GSP and Silva at 178 or somthing
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Post #11 3/5/08 9:33:15PM
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at the rate anderson is going, when it's all said and done he will have defended his title more times than matt hughes. he will also most likely hold a belt in 2 different divisions too
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Post #12 3/5/08 11:57:09PM
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He definitely has the talent to do so, but don't count your chickens yet. It wasn't too long ago Chuck was considered unstoppable. If he fought at LHW and cleared out the division, say a 7 fight win streak in the division as it now stands, then yes one could make that arguement. However, I think the MW division is lacking a little. But hey, if he keeps this up for 5 more fights or moves around in weight, who knows.
I find it hard to say any one fighter is the greatest of all times. I'd rather go with greatest of their time. Some fighters will suffer from training techniques, opponents skill levels, exposure, etc.. These reasons are why I would shy away from such proclamations. Silva is proving he is the greatest right NOW.
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Post #13 3/6/08 12:33:54AM
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the difference between chuck's reign and anderson's reign is gigantic. chuck's reign existed upon the fact that he only fought wrestlers/grapplers and he only stayed on the feet and KO'd them. he was a one trick pony (not to take anything away from him)
anderson is on another level because he is a true mixed martial artist. not only is he KO'ing people that have never been KO'd, he is also submitting olympic wrestlers and BJJ black belts like it's nothing. and the man who we all thought would be his biggest challenger, moved down from a heavier weight and still couldn't get out of the second round. do not compare chuck's reign to anderson's reign. he's simply the best. no one comes close.
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Post #14 3/6/08 7:22:33AM
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I still want to really see a Silva Henderson rematch. I mean i was as shocked as anyone when i saw Silva won. I strongly believed that Hendo was going to win that fight but I guess nothing is certain in the octagon.
I know that Anderson doesn't have anything else to prove against Hendo but I would really like to see these guys mix it up again and see what happens. That was an impressive win for Anderson but perhaps its just my opinion I think Hendo was still a little raw in the cage and perhaps one more fight for each and we can see them go at it again.
As to the best champ in UFC history...he could very well be. Not many people could argue to that as his resume speaks for itself. Chuck has a pretty good run Tito also but the competition wasn't as stiff. I would say Hughes is at the top but I'd probably give the nod to Anderson as he just beat the #2 middleweight.
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