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Career record: 144-84
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Posted by Pookie
any guy who was willing to fight on a leg with a torn ligament in that knee has heart. More heart than 99% of people in the world are capable of understanding.
He's not ducking anyone, and its ridiculous to say so.
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Post #16 3/5/08 3:01:44PM
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The best kicker in the world
Career record: 170-89
Season: 37-18 (#2479)
Location: Regina SK
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I bet he is ducking Chuck. He's probably thinking OMG the guy I destroyed KO'd this guy in seconds so I have no chance. Most fighters do mention mmamath, and ussually take common opponents into consideration when they work on game plans. Sorry guys, shogun's not scared of anyone, especially a guy who has tons of holes(one of which is Shogun's strenght, kicks!). 
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Post #17 3/5/08 3:13:03PM
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Pookie
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Posted by cmill21
I bet he is ducking Chuck. He's probably thinking OMG the guy I destroyed KO'd this guy in seconds so I have no chance. Most fighters do mention mmamath, and ussually take common opponents into consideration when they work on game plans. Sorry guys, shogun's not scared of anyone, especially a guy who has tons of holes(one of which is Shogun's strenght, kicks!).
Shogun is a much better kicker than Jardine IMO
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Post #18 3/5/08 3:15:23PM
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Posted by cmill21
I bet he is ducking Chuck. He's probably thinking OMG the guy I destroyed KO'd this guy in seconds so I have no chance. Most fighters do mention mmamath, and ussually take common opponents into consideration when they work on game plans. Sorry guys, shogun's not scared of anyone, especially a guy who has tons of holes(one of which is Shogun's strenght, kicks!).
Shogun is a much better kicker than Jardine IMO
But not after a ruptured ACL lol, i wonder if his kicks will have the same "snap" to them after all this surgery...
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Post #19 3/5/08 9:41:29PM
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is left knee. Could pose alot of problems with his explosiveness as that is his lead leg.
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Post #20 3/5/08 9:45:15PM
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Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 100-52
Season: 44-26 (#1705)
Location: San Jose, CA
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I am so disappointed Shogun/Liddell isn't happening. I picked Shogun to win, and I thought he'd be able to prove to everyone that the best of Shogun was yet to come. I'm just hoping he'll be able to fight again. Even if he does, I don't think he'll ever bee completely 100%. I've heard a ruptured ACL is very serious, especially if it happens twice on the same knee. My friend's father ruptured his ACL twice and limps when he walks.
Funny how some think Shogun is ducking Chuck. I've read somewhere Chuck didn't want to fight in London and if he did, he didn't want to fight someone of Shogun's caliber.
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Post #21 3/6/08 1:08:07AM
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Keeping the pimp hand strong
Career record: 181-78
Season: 47-23 (#525)
Location: Oklahoma
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I can tell you a bad ACL is what ended my wrestling career. I tore it had surgery then tore it again. The 2nd time I was told it would always be a problem. I went to MMA training a year later and never was as good at wrestling as I was back before my knee problems. I was young at the time but It always was a problem from then on and I get a feeling it will be for Shogun as well. I don't think he will ever be the same from this. But maybe he will get lucky and it isn't as bad as mine was.
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Post #22 3/6/08 1:43:09AM
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Posted by telnights
I can tell you a bad ACL is what ended my wrestling career. I tore it had surgery then tore it again. The 2nd time I was told it would always be a problem. I went to MMA training a year later and never was as good at wrestling as I was back before my knee problems. I was young at the time but It always was a problem from then on and I get a feeling it will be for Shogun as well. I don't think he will ever be the same from this. But maybe he will get lucky and it isn't as bad as mine was.
Man, that sucks, how did you do it?
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Post #23 3/6/08 1:44:44AM
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MMA Sensei
Career record: 147-96
Season: 51-19 (#178)
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Posted by telnights
I can tell you a bad ACL is what ended my wrestling career. I tore it had surgery then tore it again. The 2nd time I was told it would always be a problem. I went to MMA training a year later and never was as good at wrestling as I was back before my knee problems. I was young at the time but It always was a problem from then on and I get a feeling it will be for Shogun as well. I don't think he will ever be the same from this. But maybe he will get lucky and it isn't as bad as mine was.
It's a very tough injury to get over. They say the recovery process after the surgery is about 6 months, and it takes probably another 6 months to get back to where you were.
A lot of football players have the tendency to tear the same ligament over and over again.
Garrison Hearst said at one point after tearing his knee up that his ligaments were the consistency of toothpaste.
IMO Shogun rushed back, and probably should've taken time off and should've never fought Forrest with that knee messed up in the first place.
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Post #24 3/6/08 1:57:01AM
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Keeping the pimp hand strong
Career record: 181-78
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Posted by gartface
It's a very tough injury to get over. They say the recovery process after the surgery is about 6 months, and it takes probably another 6 months to get back to where you were.
A lot of football players have the tendency to tear the same ligament over and over again.
Garrison Hearst said at one point after tearing his knee up that his ligaments were the consistency of toothpaste.
IMO Shogun rushed back, and probably should've taken time off and should've never fought Forrest with that knee messed up in the first place.
Yeah tell me about it. I don't know how in the hell he fought the first time on a bad one. I met few guys that have done it before and got over it but most that do it more than once have problems with it forever. But I think your right I think Shogun rushed it and I get a feeling he is going to pay for that the rest of his life. But I sure hope he gets back to his old self it sucks to see a fighter go down hill over something like this.
Posted by bullettdodger
Man, that sucks, how did you do it?
Just in practice was shooting in for take down the first time and heard a pop and felt real bad pain in my knee and leg. The 2nd time I was making weight jogging and my knee started hurting real bad.
Its funny it even affect me while I was a cop. I hated when guys ran away. If they ran that was an a** whoopin they had coming when I caught them.
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Post #25 3/6/08 2:23:12AM
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Posted by telnights
Posted by gartface
It's a very tough injury to get over. They say the recovery process after the surgery is about 6 months, and it takes probably another 6 months to get back to where you were.
A lot of football players have the tendency to tear the same ligament over and over again.
Garrison Hearst said at one point after tearing his knee up that his ligaments were the consistency of toothpaste.
IMO Shogun rushed back, and probably should've taken time off and should've never fought Forrest with that knee messed up in the first place.
Yeah tell me about it. I don't know how in the hell he fought the first time on a bad one. I met few guys that have done it before and got over it but most that do it more than once have problems with it forever. But I think your right I think Shogun rushed it and I get a feeling he is going to pay for that the rest of his life. But I sure hope he gets back to his old self it sucks to see a fighter go down hill over something like this.
Posted by bullettdodger
Man, that sucks, how did you do it?
Just in practice was shooting in for take down the first time and heard a pop and felt real bad pain in my knee and leg. The 2nd time I was making weight jogging and my knee started hurting real bad.
Its funny it even affect me while I was a cop. I hated when guys ran away. If they ran that was an a** whoopin they had coming when I caught them.
Damn man, i am really sorry to hear that. Getting injured like that is always in the back of my mind whenever i work out or anything like that.
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Props To Grappler0000 for making the Stank-A-Tar
Bas "El Guapo" Rutten: "Godspeed and Party On"
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Post #26 3/6/08 3:15:50PM
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Standup Guy
Career record: 123-77
Season: 11-9 (#6432)
Location: kentucky
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he wasnt the same shogun against forrest thats for sure because the old shogun would have knocked out forrest. i hope he takes the adequate time to rehab and makes it back better than ever
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Post #27 3/7/08 7:46:18PM
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Aries2343
MMA Regular
Career record: 170-92
Season: 39-28 (#2608)
Location: Ovid,Michigan
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Hopefully he does comeback.. The guys got a very bright future. But an ACL injury is very very painful, and its very hard to come back off of, but not impossible. An about last time he fought it was horrible, and he shouldn't of stepped foot in the octagon... One the same note though, last time we saw Matt Hamil fight he had a torn ACL against Bisbing, and we all know theres no way he lost that fight.. It was a bunch of bs..
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