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Mir kneebarred an opponent who had 1 fight in his career. I don't think he should be even sniffing at a top match up yet. I'd say throw him against someone who has been down a bit lately. GG would be a good fight for both fighters at this point. I could see Mir getting the loser of Herring/Kongo, but not the winner. A rematch with Vera might be good for Mir, but what is the point of it for Vera? Mir has to be at least two fights away from a shot at the title. He needs to beat a proven commodity before he gets a potential #1 contender match.
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Post #16 2/16/08 2:59:43PM
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Rabi
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Against Herring I just can't see Mir taking it. Herring has been in the ring/cage with Nog way too many times without getting caught in a slick submission
Nog submitted Herring in there first match with an Anaconda choke.
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Post #17 2/16/08 3:08:21PM
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The People's Mod
Career record: 152-91
Season: 47-23 (#137)
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Posted by Rabi
Against Herring I just can't see Mir taking it. Herring has been in the ring/cage with Nog way too many times without getting caught in a slick submission
Nog submitted Herring in there first match with an Anaconda choke.
I realize that, but that's 1/3 times. IMO Nog's submissions are a level above Mir's
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Post #18 2/16/08 4:04:12PM
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Bowen50
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Sylvia
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Post #19 2/16/08 4:11:25PM
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Posted by Jackelope
Posted by Rabi
Against Herring I just can't see Mir taking it. Herring has been in the ring/cage with Nog way too many times without getting caught in a slick submission
Nog submitted Herring in there first match with an Anaconda choke.
I realize that, but that's 1/3 times. IMO Nog's submissions are a level above Mir's
well i just want to say to rabi that it was actually in their second match that big nog won by anaconda choke, their first and last fight were decisions.
i 100% agree with Jakelope here that big nog's BJJ game in terms of how well it translates into MMA usage is one step above mir, and every one else in the sport. herring has always had great submission defense and has only been submitted once really. the other submission loss he has was in his second fight against evan tanner where he verbally submitted from exhaustion. i can't see mir submitting herring from any angle, and his win against lesnar doesn't give me more confidence in his JJ whatsoever. he still needs to prove that his JJ is at the level it was when he was champion, and to me he still hasn't proven it yet. i see herring beating mir, i see him beating kongo in two weeks and i can see him facing o'brien and avenging his loss. the only people i can't see him beating are fedor, CC and of course big nog. in order to convince me that mir could submit herring he has to submit someone like big tim again or i won't buy it.
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Post #20 2/16/08 4:15:44PM
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I think Mir should face Kongo after his win over Herring !!
Herring should face Vera to determine who is the # 10 in the HW division.
I don't see herring as good as some peoples are thinking, i think Kongo will dismantle him in 2 weeks and after his win he will be submit like a kid against Mir in some months!!
Last edited 2/16/08 4:29PM by tuvok500
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Post #21 2/16/08 4:28:57PM
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The People's Mod
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Herring isn't that impressive in any particular fashion besides maybe his wrestling and his defensive abilities. I see what you mean Tuvok, but Kongo going against a guy who has been in with the level of competition that Herring has, and Herring not being afraid in the least to stand up and brawl leads to disaster for Kongo IMO.
I am not really sure that the Texas Crazy Horse will be able to finish Kongo, but I see a relatively boring takedown game for 3 rounds. Once it's on the ground I can't see Kongo having any kind of an answer for Herring. On the feet I wouldn't even be surprised to see a punch come straight down the middle classic boxing style knocking Kongo out. The way he keeps his elbows out while striking is just SO sloppy that I want to get in there and throw one down his pipe myself. Although I'm sure he'd whoop my ass, I think I might be able to land a stiff jab on him haha 
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Post #22 2/16/08 7:02:45PM
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Posted by jiujitsufreak74
Posted by Jackelope
Posted by Rabi
Against Herring I just can't see Mir taking it. Herring has been in the ring/cage with Nog way too many times without getting caught in a slick submission
Nog submitted Herring in there first match with an Anaconda choke.
I realize that, but that's 1/3 times. IMO Nog's submissions are a level above Mir's
well i just want to say to rabi that it was actually in their second match that big nog won by anaconda choke, their first and last fight were decisions.
i 100% agree with Jakelope here that big nog's BJJ game in terms of how well it translates into MMA usage is one step above mir, and every one else in the sport. herring has always had great submission defense and has only been submitted once really. the other submission loss he has was in his second fight against evan tanner where he verbally submitted from exhaustion. i can't see mir submitting herring from any angle, and his win against lesnar doesn't give me more confidence in his JJ whatsoever. he still needs to prove that his JJ is at the level it was when he was champion, and to me he still hasn't proven it yet. i see herring beating mir, i see him beating kongo in two weeks and i can see him facing o'brien and avenging his loss. the only people i can't see him beating are fedor, CC and of course big nog. in order to convince me that mir could submit herring he has to submit someone like big tim again or i won't buy it.
Was gonna give props, but I gotta spread the love man
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Post #23 2/16/08 7:03:40PM
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gcraig22
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Career record: 196-117
Season: 47-22 (#969)
Location: Benbrook, TX
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Mir should fight Gonzaga, then Kongo. Mir has a better stand-up than Gonzaga, and a better ground game than Kongo.
As for Herring, he should get a rematch versus O'Brian.
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Post #24 2/16/08 9:06:07PM
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hails
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Career record: 134-94
Season: 43-27 (#1925)
Location: Melbourne
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I really would like to see
tim vs brock
mir vs GG same card imo
or even better still sign up AA and let AA fight Mir, we will see how good Mir is.
I think Mir is not as good as everyone is claiming he is!!!
I think that the UFC would be so crazy to feed Lesnar to Tim as Tim will be a huge match up for him,
Lesnar should get Soa P. or another can like Eddie s. 
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Post #25 2/16/08 11:35:20PM
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aolverizon
Learning to Sprawl
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Season: 46-24 (#1202)
Location: Hawaii
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I think either a rematch with Sylvia or the winner of the Herring/Kongo fight. I think fighting Sanchez is taking a step down, i mean Lesnar isnt top of the food chain, but Mir has won his last couple fights and i would like to see him fight someone a little higher up then Eddie.
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Post #26 2/18/08 3:12:53AM
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The People's Mod
Career record: 152-91
Season: 47-23 (#137)
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You know.. I'm sitting here thinking about it and Mir vs. GG actually sort of makes sense. We haven't really seen Mir go up against a grade A submission guy yet, but we've seen him go up against guys with pretty decent standup. He beat Tim Sylvia back in the day, lost to Vera, and subbed Hardonk quick. 2/3 on strikers, but what about BJJ guys?
Gonzaga is well rounded enough to give a good test on all levels, so my thoughts now are that this match up makes a lot of sense.
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Post #27 2/18/08 3:47:44AM
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disturbed_fighter
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Career record: 147-95
Season: 38-32 (#3044)
Location: USA
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the winner of kongo and herring
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Post #28 2/18/08 9:26:46AM
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MikeBillotto
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it either should be vera or should be GG because those are the top heavyweights besides big nog and arlovski.. so if mir beats vera then fights arlovski then he gets a title shot in my opinion
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Post #29 2/19/08 12:16:05AM
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American Top Team
Career record: 168-91
Season: 48-22 (#211)
Location: Kansas City, MO
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I think Gonzaga/Mir makes a lot of sense
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Post #30 2/19/08 12:40:20PM
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