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hathcock32
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Keith Jardine, Karo
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Post #31 2/18/07 5:06:16PM
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Snacks
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Posted by Dadaman
Drew McFedries
Jon Fitch
Josselin
HIDEO TOKORO
Masakazu Imanari
Ryo Chonan
Ryuta Sakurai
Roger Huerta
Clay Guida
Ninja
Pawel Nastula
NOBUHIRO OBIYA
Dokonjunosoke Mishima
Krazy Horse
Duane Ludwig
Jon Alessio
Malachi? sp? (guy who trains with Evan Tanner alot and fights KoTC)
Kultar Gil
Eric Pele
my pick though is a tie between Hideo Tokoro and Nobuhiro Obiya, I love both thier styles.
One day Obiya will smash Ishida, destroy Aurelio, devour Gomi, and consume the universe.
Obiya just lost 3 in a row, he's not exactly under-rated so much as under-preforming.
Ludwig has never been anything special in MMA. Clay Guida can go get pwnt by Endo again. Mishima, as much as I love him, is a bit out of his prime. Tokoro isn't underrated, in fact, he's overrated thanks to his Golden boy status in K-1. Imanari is underrated? Uhhh I don't know many people who don't have him ranked. Sakurai just needs to stop lifting and start training.
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Post #32 2/18/07 6:53:12PM
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Snacks
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Also, Fukuda, Kunioku, Hasegawa, and SK absolute are underrated.
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Post #33 2/18/07 10:29:48PM
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Posted by hathcock32
Keith Jardine, Karo
Parisyan is no way under-rated. I actually think he is overrated.
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Post #34 2/18/07 11:18:32PM
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Greene33
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Posted by Trapt1nw0nder
Posted by Greene33
Jon fitch..
4-0 in the UFC
on a 11 fight winning streak. Shouls be in line for a shot at GSP soon and nobody really knows who he is...
who is Underrating Jon Fitch? he just started i predict he will blow up within the next 2 fights
maybe he is underrated by the casual fan,but not by true MMA fans
True on all accounts, i am just saying this because Kos and Diego are the two up and comers in 170 and i think Fitch could beat both of them. Fitch gets passed over alot because he wasent on TUF
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Post #35 2/19/07 3:31:14PM
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hathcock32
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Who are Karo's UFC losses.....he has 4 losses in MMA....Two of his losses to UFC Lightweight champ Sean Sherk.....One to one the best Pound for pound fighters in the world GSP...and his fourth loss was to Diego who we all know is undefeated....
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Post #36 2/19/07 9:02:05PM
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Posted by hathcock32
Keith Jardine, Karo
How are the underratted? Karo is ranked perfectly. At #4. Only supassed by Hughes and Penn, and then 2 guys who beat him GSP and Sanchez. #4 in the world is a pretty high ranking.
And Jardine. If anything this guy is overratted. Ever since he KO'd Forrest he has been one of the big guys in the LHW division. I dunoo about you but being hyped as the top of a divison doesnt seem underratted to me. In a either case.
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Post #37 2/20/07 11:21:30AM
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Gomiera
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Most underrated fighter.. Akira Kikuchi.. especially his grappling skills.
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Post #38 2/20/07 1:02:18PM
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amik
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Post #39 3/1/07 4:41:01PM
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Post #40 3/1/07 5:02:18PM
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pv3Hpv3p
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Posted by madmarck
Posted by hathcock32
Keith Jardine, Karo
How are the underratted? Karo is ranked perfectly. At #4. Only supassed by Hughes and Penn, and then 2 guys who beat him GSP and Sanchez. #4 in the world is a pretty high ranking.
And Jardine. If anything this guy is overratted. Ever since he KO'd Forrest he has been one of the big guys in the LHW division. I dunoo about you but being hyped as the top of a divison doesnt seem underratted to me. In a either case.
A few weeks ago, I would have agreed with you, but I think Keith actually has something going for him...
He only has two losses, not counting the TUF match with Rashad. One was the decision to Bonnar which a lot of people would argue went the other way. The other was to Wuiff, never seen the fight but it's listed as a KO for Travis 6 seconds in, so I'd have to go with lucky punch (considering Wiuff has only one other KO in 50+ fights)
jardine has been fighting better and better competition and is going to get a chance to prove himself on the big stage soon enough... Don't count this guy out
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Post #41 3/1/07 5:13:36PM
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Post #42 3/1/07 6:09:16PM
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Josh Burkman was a good one.
Drew Fickett.. only lost to top dogs.
John Alessio as someone mentioned.
Vitor Ribeiro.. IMO easily top5 LW in the world.
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Post #43 3/1/07 7:13:44PM
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Dan Henderson anyone? Did you forget the LONG odds against him last weekend?
And secondly, what about Kazuyuki Fujita? The guy is 14-5, has beaten Mark Kerr, Ken Shamrock, Gilbert Yvel, James Thompson, and Bob Sapp.
Only loses have come to Silva, Crocop, Fedor, and Coleman. I'd say he's top 10 material without a doubt, and he IS on my top 10. He puts on a hell of a fight every time he gets in the ring and is tough as nails.
Plus I still think he has come the closest out of anyone (besdies TK) to beating Fedor.
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Post #44 3/1/07 9:52:06PM
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Posted by hippysmacker
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Agreed on Sylvia. I don't think he can beat the top 6-7 in PRIDE, but he's not nearly as bad as people make him out to be. He just looks goofy and says dumb things.
Wow , I don't like him either , but dang. He's at lesst top 5 , as Trapt1nowder said, in my book. Pride's top 6-7 heavyweight's would be IMO, so if your's are different let me know
1. Fedor
2. Big Nog
3.Josh Barnett
4. Werdum
5.Alek's Emelianenko
6.Sergei Kharitanov
7.Mark Hunt
No matter what order you have them in it's probably a safe assunption those are the top 7 in Pride. Your my boy and all Manfed, but I really disagree with you that he couldn't beat at least some of these guys.
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poeple try to make a statement and exagerate. tim isnt underated in my book he is my 5th hw. he would beat some of the guys on that top 7 pride list im just not sure which ones. i really think fedor and josh beat him. big nog may be a slight favorite but he must get tim down. werdum would be a dog who must get him down. the other 3 would be great fights and i for one would love to see them. some poeple put tim behind all of those guys and they are being unrealistic some put him #1 so are they. tim would go 3-4 against that field thats my best guess. i agree with you hippy
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