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We heard Rogan talking about it tonight and I couldn't agree more. As this sport progresses and we have more and more top athletes competing, the huge weight differences in the current divisions need to be adjusted. Its a big win for both the fans and for the UFC. More title fights, more champions, bigger stakes. I think we definitely need 2 more weight classes in the UFC, and I also believe that we will have them within a year.
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Post #1 1/23/08 11:33:32PM
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loonytnt
MMA Sensei
Career record: 126-99
Season: 33-24 (#4027)
Location: idaho
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145 class next TUF  a lil inside info, hope it goes throw
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Post #2 1/23/08 11:39:27PM
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jboi15
Learning to Sprawl
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Season: 35-33 (#2554)
Location: las vegas
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yah i think at least one more
but not a lot cause it could end up like boxing with too many weight classes
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Post #3 1/23/08 11:47:47PM
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Daddyprimetime
MMA Regular
Career record: 119-77
Season: 37-32 (#2636)
Location: Indiana
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I think the UFC needs a 195lbs weight class and a weight class somewhere between welter and middle weight.
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Post #4 1/24/08 12:27:12AM
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UFCFIGHTFAN
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 29-21
Season: 2-2 (#8709)
Location: Texas
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I'm really kind of torn about this issue. It's the problem that Urijah Faber faces. He's not afraid to fight anyone but at some point strength and size has an effect on someone. I think that there should be a limit as to how much weight a person can cut in order to fight as well as how much that fighter can weigh on fight day. Maybe they already do, I don't know. If not what prevents a fighter from cutting 20 pounds to fight a naturally smaller fighter? Would adding a couple of more weight classes prevent this?
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Post #5 1/24/08 12:50:31AM
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jhj07
Learning to Sprawl
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I agree that a 145 lb. class is needed, but other than that I'm not sure where else you could go. I could possibly see one between WW and MW or one between MW and LHW, but other than that I think the only thing the UFC is go further down in weight, to 135 etc., which would take a lot of attention away from HW's...let's face it, anyone would rather watch a couple of small guys scrap it out than watch a couple of gorillas dance...I've seen more great 145 and 155 lb. fights than any other weight class as far as excitement.
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Post #6 1/24/08 1:17:50AM
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killjoy
Banned
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Location: your mom's crib
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no additional weight classes, not enough fights in each weight class on each card anyway, they dont even show all the fights how can they add more classes, that would be b/s
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Post #7 1/24/08 2:27:03AM
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themmachamp
MMA Regular
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145 would be the best move, plenty of talent at that weight
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Post #8 1/24/08 9:49:24AM
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MMAnomale
MMA Regular
Career record: 73-28
Season: 3-0 (#8809)
Location: Huntington, WV
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Bring on Urijah Faber, as well as getting Jens Pulver back, and many more fighters for the 145 pound class. Hell, I would like to see a Bantamweight class, there's just not enough fighters right now for them to justify it so they'll leave it to the WEC. Rogan specifically talked about the 20 pound gap between MW and LHW. There are so many fighters now, and with many doing it as a full-time job, the talent pool as exploded exponentially. If they have a Cruiserweight division or other divisions, we will see some fighters, such as GSP, going for the title in more than one division. It would definately be interesting.
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Post #9 1/24/08 11:36:29AM
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icarus4321
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 107-64
Season: 28-17 (#4382)
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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I wouldn't mind seeing one more weight class added to bridge the gap between 185 and 205, but I don't see the point in anything more. I think WEC has a great thing going with their 135 and 145 divisions, and they should not be brought over to the UFC.
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Post #10 1/24/08 11:57:41AM
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rabbit915
In Full Mount
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Season: 42-28 (#1137)
Location: Wisconsin
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I dont like the idea of fighters going for more than one belt unless they have completed exhausted the list of people who have earned a title shot in one weight class (Anderson Silva being the prime example before Henderson dropped weight). Too many weight classes would make this common. This is one of my big issues with boxing and the UFC really should not make the same mistake. The only thing i could agree with is the addition of a featherweight class but i do not want the other divisions reshuffled.
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Post #11 1/24/08 11:58:15AM
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In Full Mount
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Season: 44-26 (#1016)
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I could not DISAGREE more with Joe Rogan's comments.
I think that 15 pounds between weight classes is more than enough for every fighter to find the best weight class for them. We already have (IMO) too many fighters jumping around to different weight classes (if not more than 2).
I think by adding another weight class or two, would just create more jumping around and make things more complicated for contendership between weight classes.
Just think, who the hell is anderson silva going to fight when you have guys jumping to (say) 177 or 192?
I am all for adding a featherweight class (ie.. 140 pounds) so long as we can maintain the current separation between the classes.
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Post #12 1/24/08 1:32:13PM
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I could not DISAGREE more with Joe Rogan's comments.
I think that 15 pounds between weight classes is more than enough for every fighter to find the best weight class for them. We already have (IMO) too many fighters jumping around to different weight classes (if not more than 2).
I think by adding another weight class or two, would just create more jumping around and make things more complicated for contendership between weight classes.
Just think, who the hell is anderson silva going to fight when you have guys jumping to (say) 177 or 192?
I am all for adding a featherweight class (ie.. 140 pounds) so long as we can maintain the current separation between the classes.
I agree with you, but one thing I would take into consideration is the percentage of weight between classes. 15 pounds might not be the best split at the lower weight classes. The difference between 145 and 155 is a significant percentage of the total weight.They already have 20 between 185-205, but the percentage their is less than at 145-155.I weigh 270, for me cutting 10 lbs of water id easy. One decent workout in the gym accomplishes it. I can put it right back on in 12 hours. For a guy at 155 to cut such a high percentage of their total body weight is much harder, I saw this in wrestling in high school. The Heavyweight limit was 245, and I was usually 255 walking around. The cut was easy. Our 145 guy walked around at 152 and it was a nightmare for him every time. Just something to consider.
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Post #13 1/24/08 5:30:27PM
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Keeping the pimp hand strong
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Posted by stock
I could not DISAGREE more with Joe Rogan's comments.
I think that 15 pounds between weight classes is more than enough for every fighter to find the best weight class for them. We already have (IMO) too many fighters jumping around to different weight classes (if not more than 2).
I think by adding another weight class or two, would just create more jumping around and make things more complicated for contendership between weight classes.
Just think, who the hell is anderson silva going to fight when you have guys jumping to (say) 177 or 192?
I am all for adding a featherweight class (ie.. 140 pounds) so long as we can maintain the current separation between the classes.
 100% I don't want to see fighters jumping weight classes every time they loss a fight and it also takes away from the title holders if there are 20 of you walking around. I would like to see a FW class. Plus I'm a huge fan of Jens.
Last edited 1/24/08 5:55PM by telnights
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Post #14 1/24/08 5:55:07PM
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Laying down the beats
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Something I want to add. I don't see the happening (beyond adding a lower class at the bottom) until the UFC gets bigger and has more fighters.
Think about it. Right now they have about enough fighters per class that most guys are kept busy fighting every 3-4 months. Add a weight class in between WW and MW and you've effectively thinned out each class.
This might not have an impact on fights overall, but I think it will have an impact on contenders for titles by effectively thinning them out.
Besides, let's say GSP walks around between 180 and 190. Why would he fight at a class in between WW and MW, when he can cut down to WW and be bigger than most guys?
I really don't think this is a good idea unless the number of fighters in the UFC explodes.
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Post #15 1/24/08 6:16:34PM
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