Another WWE Wrestler Joining MMA |
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kevietre
Belt Contender
Career record: 564-404
Season: 10-3 (#1712)
Location: New Jersey
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Posted by grappler0000
Posted by kevietre
After Mir makes an example out of Lesnar these pro wrestlers will learn you can't use steel chairs in MMA. Sure this guys a physical speciemen but he has no technique, skill, or attributes in the world of MMA.
Well, if you don't like the negative attention MMA gets with these WWE crossovers, then that's fine...but to say that being a national amateur wrestling champion has no merit is naive.
I said he was a pro wrestler. I never critized his amateur wrestling ability which by the way he was the champ 8 years ago!!!!! Its not like he just got out of winning the NCAA its been a long time since he competed in it.
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Post #31 1/24/08 10:31:03AM
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MODular Approach
Career record: 1012-567
Season: 19-5 (#178)
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Posted by kevietre
Posted by grappler0000
Posted by kevietre
After Mir makes an example out of Lesnar these pro wrestlers will learn you can't use steel chairs in MMA. Sure this guys a physical speciemen but he has no technique, skill, or attributes in the world of MMA.
Well, if you don't like the negative attention MMA gets with these WWE crossovers, then that's fine...but to say that being a national amateur wrestling champion has no merit is naive.
I said he was a pro wrestler. I never critized his amateur wrestling ability which by the way he was the champ 8 years ago!!!!! Its not like he just got out of winning the NCAA its been a long time since he competed in it.
Your exact words were "he has no technique, skill, or attributes in the world of MMA." The last time I checked, great amateur wrestlers have done extremely well in MMA. I don't see the elapsed time being that big of a deal...he continued to wrestle in the military and is still in great shape . Besides training in the other aspects of MMA, the only actual problem I see is for him trying to pass a drug test.
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Post #32 1/24/08 2:58:52PM
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tlangley
MMA Regular
Career record: 298-179
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Area 51
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If he'll be any good at it or not. it's still good for the world of MMA. There's a heck of alot of fans in WWE
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Post #33 1/24/08 5:22:48PM
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stock
Banned
Career record: 177-102
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Austin, TX
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Posted by THE_DRiZzLE
what i'm wondering is how many of these WWE guys and the likes juice up? and if so, how much of a part that may play in trying to cross over into MMA.. just a thought..
I would say it is probably a similar proportion to that of the UFC fighters.
Just different types of steroids and different cycling patterns.
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Post #34 1/24/08 6:18:02PM
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chubbud22
In Full Mount
Career record: 323-221
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Central Point OR
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Lesner is not just a wwe wrassler. He was a 4 time all american also. That should count for something.
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Post #35 1/24/08 8:03:16PM
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kevietre
Belt Contender
Career record: 564-404
Season: 10-3 (#1712)
Location: New Jersey
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Wrestling is just one aspect of the game. You could be the best wrestler in the world but unless you can transition that to benefit you in the game of mixed martial arts then it's useless.
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Post #36 1/24/08 9:09:33PM
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Naturaldisaster
MMA Sensei
Career record: 452-292
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Louisville, Kentucky
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Posted by kevietre
Wrestling is just one aspect of the game. You could be the best wrestler in the world but unless you can transition that to benefit you in the game of mixed martial arts then it's useless.
all I have to say is Matt Hughes.....nuff said
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Post #37 1/24/08 9:31:30PM
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tapoutking28
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 222-192
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I am sick of people bashing pro wrestlers. just because they were in worked matches, in case any of you forgot some of the best mma fighter in japan have done worked matches before .
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Post #38 1/24/08 10:19:11PM
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kevietre
Belt Contender
Career record: 564-404
Season: 10-3 (#1712)
Location: New Jersey
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Posted by Naturaldisaster
Posted by kevietre
Wrestling is just one aspect of the game. You could be the best wrestler in the world but unless you can transition that to benefit you in the game of mixed martial arts then it's useless.
all I have to say is Matt Hughes.....nuff said
Is that the guy who verbally tapped out to GSP?
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Post #39 1/25/08 5:07:24PM
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ThaAxeMurderer7
MMA Sensei
Career record: 768-498
Season: 15-9 (#1167)
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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I think this is only the beginning. We are probably going to see more of the WWE wrestlers with amateur backgrounds jump ship to MMA. It would be interesting to see how somebody like Shelton Benjamin, who was a team mate of Brock Lesnar at University Of Minnesota, would do. I think as MMA gets more popular, this little trend is going to continue.
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Post #40 1/25/08 5:57:27PM
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Naturaldisaster
MMA Sensei
Career record: 452-292
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Louisville, Kentucky
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Posted by kevietre
Posted by Naturaldisaster
Posted by kevietre
Wrestling is just one aspect of the game. You could be the best wrestler in the world but unless you can transition that to benefit you in the game of mixed martial arts then it's useless.
all I have to say is Matt Hughes.....nuff said
Is that the guy who verbally tapped out to GSP?
yeah and it would also be the guy that beat GSP, Royce Gracie, FRank Trigg (Twice), carlos newton (Twice), Sean Sherk, BJ Penn, chris Lytle, and many others. so yeah Wrestlers can do extremely well in mma
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Post #41 1/25/08 10:31:47PM
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NatedawgThaM
MMA Sensei
Career record: 343-224
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: New Providence, Pa
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This wrestling bashing is out of hand. First off, wrestlings not fake, IT'S SCRIPTED!!! You take a slam in the ring and see how "fake" it feels. A lot of pro wrestlers ARE TOUGHER then MMA fighters because they wrestle every single week through pain and injuries WEEK AFTER WEEK. You see all these MMA fighters drop out of fights because they sprained or broke something. Wrestlers wrestle with them injuries week after week.
Do You Guys Not Know BEFORE Bobby Lashley went into the WWE, he was trained with JON FITCH, JOSH KOSCHECK, AND MICK SWICK at American Kickboxing Academy?
Lashley would be a beast. He could easily be a contender in whatever company he goes too. GOOD LUCK BOBBY!!!
Last edited 1/26/08 12:28AM by Natedawgtham
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Post #42 1/26/08 12:28:04AM
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Remember Paul Herrera
Career record: 1017-538
Season: 20-4 (#60)
Location: You think you can tell heaven from hell?
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Posted by Naturaldisaster
Posted by kevietre
Wrestling is just one aspect of the game. You could be the best wrestler in the world but unless you can transition that to benefit you in the game of mixed martial arts then it's useless.
all I have to say is Matt Hughes.....nuff said
Matt hughes isnt one dimensional dude. He has great jui-jutsu and limited boxing skills(lol)
Kevietre is right in his statement
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Post #43 1/26/08 2:47:33AM
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D0wnUnd6e6r
SUUUUUUUUUGA
Career record: 927-526
Season: 19-5 (#455)
Location: Omnipresent
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Posted by CornishMMA
LOL at the MMA snobbery with all of this stuff
Its sad yuo guys have to mock guys like this making out they have no chance of success in MMA, they would always have a very good base in wrestling so wtf is the need for comments like "god help us all" is totally beyong me
Also to say this guy has no skills and what the hell is he doing etc like kevitere said is pretty much not reading the article, it said he has STARTED training mma, why is he not allowed to do this just cos he was in WWE?
MMA snobbery at its best, i really wanna see Brock shut up the haters now
Just wait for it, brock will get schooled
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Post #44 1/26/08 8:27:39AM
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D0wnUnd6e6r
SUUUUUUUUUGA
Career record: 927-526
Season: 19-5 (#455)
Location: Omnipresent
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Posted by NatedawgThaM
This wrestling bashing is out of hand. First off, wrestlings not fake, IT'S SCRIPTED!!! You take a slam in the ring and see how "fake" it feels. A lot of pro wrestlers ARE TOUGHER then MMA fighters because they wrestle every single week through pain and injuries WEEK AFTER WEEK. You see all these MMA fighters drop out of fights because they sprained or broke something. Wrestlers wrestle with them injuries week after week.
Do You Guys Not Know BEFORE Bobby Lashley went into the WWE, he was trained with JON FITCH, JOSH KOSCHECK, AND MICK SWICK at American Kickboxing Academy?
Lashley would be a beast. He could easily be a contender in whatever company he goes too. GOOD LUCK BOBBY!!!
Ok yeah, it i s scripted, but fake at the same time. Yes some wrestlers will actually take a real (but accidental) punch but 98% of the time u can see em' caressing the other guy's face and stomping on the ground to make the noise. Sorry but that's called fake in my book. oh and btw, the scripting got waaaay shittier with the years.
Last edited 1/26/08 8:31AM by D0wnUnd6e6r
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