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Posted by JimiMak

Joe Daddy's best option is to pray a lot.



Yeah I have to agree with you on this one.

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what are joe's bjj credentials? he's only subbed people via guillotine or RNC

Post #17   1/3/08 2:09:06AM   

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at least BJ can pass a drug test

do you guys think sherk will come into the BJ fight juiced?

Post #18   1/5/08 7:17:46AM   

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Posted by TrueNature

at least BJ can pass a drug test

do you guys think sherk will come into the BJ fight juiced?



Skerk will come back and LnP BJ to a win and tak control of the LW division once again....

Post #19   1/5/08 1:16:43PM   

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LnP works on people that have shitty ground game. I'd love to see what Sherk can (or can't) do without the juice, especially on someone that can work it on the ground like BJ.

Post #20   1/5/08 2:26:13PM   

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Posted by loonytnt

i wanna know how you think he can lose this fight

-i think his gas tank and thats it


i agree he would have beaten both hughes and gsp if he had better cardio. anyone who saw the penn vs gsp saw him put the beat down on gsp in the 1st round and then gsp won rounds 2 and 3 by slight margins against a tired bj. both the 2nd and 3rd rounds were very uneventful. bj has a problem with conditioning and if he doesnt solve it he could lose to joe daddy. at this level the guys can take the punishment and get in the late rounds and give it back. that keeps happening to bj. maybe we should call him gased prodogy

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Posted by TrueNature

at least BJ can pass a drug test

do you guys think sherk will come into the BJ fight juiced?



Skerk will come back and LnP BJ to a win and tak control of the LW division once again....



what a crappy future you predict

i guess sherk wants me to "go on a beer run while he fights if i dont like watching him fight" haha what a character, theres no way a guy that arrogant sayin BJ is a pothead when hes never failed a drug test is going to walk thru BJ, you must not like penn, why because he has what it takes to neutralize the lay and pray? watch the GSP/sherk fight and that will be similar to the sherk/penn fight when it happens, trust me

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out of all of bjs fights, how many times has he gassed (hughes doesn't count). so he let it slip against gsp, BIG DEAL. even gassed he almost won that fight. apart from that, i can't think of when he gassed himself to a loss.

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Even though BJ is by far the better technician on the mat, I honestly think his best option is to keep it standing...at least until something bad happens and he feels the need to go to the ground.

The reason I say that is Joe is a hard guy to tap and he's more explosive, stronger and likely the better overall athlete. I could see BJ Penn getting worn down after a few rounds on the mat, threatening with a bunch of subs and out-positioning Joe but not finishing and end up losing a decision.

BJ's stand up should be too much for Joe Daddy and I don't think he'd be exerting himself as much that way. Joe hasn't proven to have heavy enough hands to threaten for a KO.

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Posted by mkiv9secsupra

Skerk will come back and LnP BJ to a win and tak control of the LW division once again....



how do you figure sherk is so much better when BJ dominated hughes who is better than sherk? what is your obviously bias opinion? you must not like BJ whatever dude, if your going to root for a boring roider go for it

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Posted by Underhook


Posted by mkiv9secsupra

Skerk will come back and LnP BJ to a win and tak control of the LW division once again....



how do you figure sherk is so much better when BJ dominated hughes who is better than sherk? what is your obviously bias opinion? you must not like BJ whatever dude, if your going to root for a boring roider go for it



i don't want to get involved in the argument but...i hate when people say that BJ dominated hughes when hughes just TKOed him in their last fight. you can't keep living in the past, and stop using BJ's win over hughes 4 years ago to say how good he is. now don't get me wrong he is a talented fighter, but stop using fights 4years ago to justify your opinion. I personally think sherk can LnP against anyone in the LW division even BJ. i hate anyone who uses steroids but imo i say sherk would beat BJ. look at how he LnP against franca who has phenomenal BJJ. i think sherk is careful enough not to get caught in anything and that his controlling, boring style of fighting would wear out anyone in the division until i see otherwise. again, i could be wrong but sherk's LnP style seems invincible at this point no matter how much we hate it...hopefully referees will catch on and try to do something, but until then i don't know what can stop it. also, remember that sherk's suspension as only 6 months and that his level was ratehr low for steroids so he might not have been juicing so much as taking illegal supplements. or even legal supplements that gave him abnormal levels.

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i don't want to get involved in the argument but...i hate when people say that BJ dominated hughes when hughes just TKOed him in their last fight. you can't keep living in the past, and stop using BJ's win over hughes 4 years ago to say how good he is. now don't get me wrong he is a talented fighter, but stop using fights 4years ago to justify your opinion. I personally think sherk can LnP against anyone in the LW division even BJ. i hate anyone who uses steroids but imo i say sherk would beat BJ. look at how he LnP against franca who has phenomenal BJJ. i think sherk is careful enough not to get caught in anything and that his controlling, boring style of fighting would wear out anyone in the division until i see otherwise. again, i could be wrong but sherk's LnP style seems invincible at this point no matter how much we hate it...hopefully referees will catch on and try to do something, but until then i don't know what can stop it. also, remember that sherk's suspension as only 6 months and that his level was ratehr low for steroids so he might not have been juicing so much as taking illegal supplements. or even legal supplements that gave him abnormal levels.


lot of talking for no reason there guy, hughes is better than sherk period, and BJ dominated both fights until he got injured thats called domination bud, watch the gsp/sherk fight and that will be the result when they finally fight, lots of sprawling and TD which BJ is better than GSP at, why do you think franca couldnt KO sherk, sherk on roids and bad TD, by the way BJ is not franca just to make that clear.. franca also had to use roids just to have a chance, that shows how off your comparison is of franca and BJ

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Posted by sillysnail

LnP works on people that have shitty ground game. I'd love to see what Sherk can (or can't) do without the juice, especially on someone that can work it on the ground like BJ.



I love how people act as though Sherk has been on roids his entire career and never been busted before. He was obviously tested at some point in his career before the Franca fight its not like he's forever been using steroids. He's going to give Penn a beating.

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Posted by Underhook
lot of talking for no reason there guy, hughes is better than sherk period, and BJ dominated both fights until he got injured thats called domination bud, watch the gsp/sherk fight and that will be the result when they finally fight, lots of sprawling and TD which BJ is better than GSP at, why do you think franca couldnt KO sherk, sherk on roids and bad TD, by the way BJ is not franca just to make that clear.. franca also had to use roids just to have a chance, that shows how off your comparison is of franca and BJ



you are clearly blinded by ignorance when you use the fact that franca was on steroids as an advantage for penn. if anything that proved that a guy on steroids couldn't even beat sherk, who did not juice, the CSAC did not say it was an injection and it was a low positive probably caused by a tainted supplement. also, penn is not better than gsp at any aspect of mma except JJ. GSP actually avoided hughes takedown in their last two fights, and BJ was not dominating hughes before his "injury", he was merely holding off the takedown and edging out hughes stand-up wise. yes he was winning, but dominating is not something i can agree with. BJ is a great fighter, but sherk's LnP was been proven to be effective in the LW division so far and sherk has not had a problem against BJJ guys in the past, in fact he is undefeated against them and has impeccable submission defense. now, i hate sherk and i really hope BJ can beat him but i just don't think he can. BJ hasn't been showing good cardio and that will be an extreme disadvantage against a fighter who drags out his 5 round fights. lets see how BJ does against joe daddy before we start crowning him already.

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Posted by jiujitsufreak74


you are clearly blinded by ignorance when you use the fact that franca was on steroids as an advantage for penn. if anything that proved that a guy on steroids couldn't even beat sherk, who did not juice



you must be just blind then because i said that franca couldnt beat sherk without cheating, dosnt matter if he didnt shoot it, he got caught cheating, same f$#@g thing bro

that being said i think joe stevenson would maul sherk as well, this matchup to me is way better than sherk/penn

as for gsp being better than everything than bj, haha you forgot about BJ's chin, who KO'd GSP oh thats right matt serra, i do like gsp by the way and hope he stays on top but to me, penn=gsp>hughes>sherk

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