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Tailgunner
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Posted by loonytnt
lol i think is is funny, serra should be scared?? he KO gsp in the first round, are you all jokin??.... serra BBJ is 10X better then hughes, serra aready KO gsp so we no he can so i dont see why serra should be scared, but you all can think what you want but i see this going serra by sub 4rd
You think Serras back is gonna be able to handle GSP's riddum??
Also come on man, if you told any MMA fighter that Serra is going to beat GSP next time they meet they would just laugh at you.
Serra is NOWHERE near the level of fighter that GSP is, one fluke win doesn't mean a thing, who has Serra beat in his career??? Other than GSP he hasn't beat anyone.
GSP has run through the entire WW division...Hughes twice,Sherk,Penn,Karo,the list goes on.
Like I said, to any and all Serra dreamers, put your money where your mouth is.
WHEN Serra gets thrashed by GSP we will never see his face again!
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Post #16 12/30/07 1:06:18PM
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kevietre
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Posted by Tailgunner
Posted by kevietre
I think people underestimate Serra. GSP was great tonight he's the best I have a pic of me and him on my profile here but Serra will give him a fight.
People underestimate Serra because he really hasn't had a stellar fighting career. He doesn't even average 1 fight a year, he hasn't beaten any top five fighters(before his illegal hit to the back of GSP's head) and he hasn't truly earned his belt.
If you call joining a reality T.V show (called the comeback) and beating a couple of washed up has beens to get a title fight deserving then so be it, but there are alot of fighters in the 170 division who deserved a title shot way before Serra.
Serra got real lucky when he beat GSP, but I will bet anyone that GSP is gonna rape Serra in a few months.
I'll take "ANY" avatar/sig bet that GSP destroys Serra.
To all the Matt Serra fans.......get ready to watch him fade back to obscurity cause its coming!
Serra is the first America blackbelt under Renzo Gracie. The only time he was ever stopped in a fight was against Shonie and he was dominating him before he got caught. I'm not saying he's going to beat GSP but I think he will put up a better fight than Hughes did.
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Post #17 12/30/07 1:09:18PM
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dstlvb
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What did we actually learn from this fight. He completely dominated Matt Hughes. Thats not new he did that last time they fought. Then went into the match with Serra and lost. Other than seeing GSP back to form his performance wasnt some new reavealing look at GSP future. I fully expected GSP to dominate Hughes. Serra has a well rounded game that can give GSP some trouble. Do i expect Serra to win. No. Can i see GSP dominating him. Yes. I also see this fight going 5 rounds and a descision for either guy. THe one thing i wont see is Serra walking in scared or just giving up the belt.
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Post #18 12/30/07 1:19:59PM
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Tailgunner
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Posted by kevietre
Serra is the first America blackbelt under Renzo Gracie. The only time he was ever stopped in a fight was against Shonie and he was dominating him before he got caught. I'm not saying he's going to beat GSP but I think he will put up a better fight than Hughes did.
I think Serra is definitely a true warrior with a huge heart and some serious BJJ skills, there is no doubt about it.
But he just never proved himself as a A-level fighter through his entire career, call it bad luck, whatever but the fact is he just never strung together any kind of continued success.
And to say he is better than Matt Hughes is quite a stretch....Hughes is the MOST dominant WW ever in the UFC, with a string of wins and TRUE title defenses, what has Serra done???
He barely squeaked past Shonie carter and Lytle on a reality T.V. show!!
Sorry but Hughes beats Serra 9 times out of 10.
When Serra does face GSP he would have gone a whole year without a fight while it will be GSP's fourth fight in the same amount of time.......Serra is gonna be rusty bigtime and his back is fubar.
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Post #19 12/30/07 1:25:20PM
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ippon
Learning to Sprawl
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I like both Serra and GSP, personally and as fighters, so I can't say I'm rooting for one or the other. But GSP amazed me this last fight. I've always liked technical and athletic strikers (GSP, Stout, Loiseau, etc.) as opposed to brawlers, but I always cringe to imagine them getting taken down and being shut down. But GSP put a freakin wrestling clinic on Matt Hughes. I couldn't believe my eyes. He was putting him down like he was a toddler. I don't know where it came from but it is impressive and I'm excited to watch this new GSP. Plus, I'm a pushover for those judo throws.
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Post #20 12/30/07 1:35:24PM
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BTizzle
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Yeah GSP looked really good vs Hughes. Serra will have his hands full and GSP looks like he's on a mission. I won't count Serra out just yet but he'll be coming off an injury and GSP looks to be really good. GSP obvious favorite to win.
If Serra does get beat though that would leave open the Hughes vs Serra match that didn't happen which I'm sure a lot of people would like to see myself included.
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Post #21 12/30/07 3:04:14PM
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Lay_N_Pray
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Serra's victory over GSP was no fluke cause there is no such thing and even GSP admitted that. Serra was the better fighter that night.
With that being said after watching GSP last night I'm convinced he may never lose again. I always believed GSP had the potential to be the best ever, but I actually picked Hughes last night cause I thought GSP was still finding himself. I was obviously wrong and GSP has found himself for sure and is in complete control of his abilities.
His wrestling is so good right now and his strength is on another level. The welterweight division is stacked and is very deep but I honestly think GSP will retire with two losses.
He is that good right now, so yeah everyone should be scared.
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Post #22 12/30/07 3:42:08PM
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Posted by loonytnt
lol i think is is funny, serra should be scared?? he KO gsp in the first round, are you all jokin??.... serra BBJ is 10X better then hughes, serra aready KO gsp so we no he can so i dont see why serra should be scared, but you all can think what you want but i see this going serra by sub 4rd
you are dellusional if you think gsp will lose to serra again. serra is a flash in the pan and isnt even a top 10 ww, the guy needs to move down to 155 where he would be a serious contender.
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Post #23 12/30/07 3:53:56PM
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You all are so funny w/ your fluke win stories an all. Like you actually believe GSP has a chance against Serra. He DESTROYED him last time, I see no reason this fight shouldn't end quicker. GSP=no chance of winning this fight.
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Post #24 12/30/07 4:03:43PM
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Tailgunner
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Posted by JimiMak
You all are so funny w/ your fluke win stories an all. Like you actually believe GSP has a chance against Serra. He DESTROYED him last time, I see no reason this fight shouldn't end quicker. GSP=no chance of winning this fight.
Jimimak if you REALLY believe that then you are one crazy mofo.....I will bet you anything you want, sig bet, money towards a charity, absolutely ANYTHING that GSP will destroy Serra.
Ask any MMA fighter who they are going to take in the Serra/GSP fight and they will say GSP without a doubt.
GSP is possibly the best P4P fighter in the world........Serra isn't even a blip on the MMA radar, why do you feel that one fight makes Serra so good??
Every person in the MMA world has called Serras victory the biggest upset in UFC history, why do you think that is???
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Post #25 12/30/07 4:15:00PM
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Put it this way. HMC doesn't deserve the Fedor fight, if he wins he doesn't become the best in the world automatically. It's not always about who is "best" in context of the division. Some fighters jsut have other guys #'s. Serra is better on the feet and on the ground. So let me ask you how in the world you see GSP winning? Decision I guess, that's the only way it's ever happened except to that spinning backfist that just caught him. Not a mistake he's likely to make again.
Anyone who saw the last fight and thinks St Pierre takes this fight more than 3 out of 10 times is delusional.
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Post #26 12/30/07 4:20:15PM
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Tailgunner
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Posted by JimiMak
. Some fighters jsut have other guys #'s. Serra is better on the feet and on the ground. So let me ask you how in the world you see GSP winning?
Anyone who saw the last fight and thinks St Pierre takes this fight more than 3 out of 10 times is delusional.
Serra has never beat anyone in the top 5 ever!!! He was basically retired at the old age of 34 and had to enter a reality T.V show called "The Comeback" in order to get a title fight.
Why do you think the show was called "The Comeback"?? Is it because everyone on it was a up and comer?? No it was called the comeback because their careers were basically over!
GSP got caught with a fluke forearm to the back of his head and never recovered, Serra did a hell of a job by taking advantage of this and finished the fight like a stud.
But that doesn't change the fact that GSP is ten times the fighter that Serra is, even Dana White said GSP was in a weird place before the fight, but it doesn't matter cause GSP is gonna bring it to Serra and it going to be ugly.
Lets make a friendly wager of your choice.........ANYTHING you want cause I am 150% sure that GSP is gonna decimate Serra.
Serra is a warrior for sure with a huge heart but he won't pull off a fluke win again GSP ever in this lifetime.
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Post #27 12/30/07 4:29:02PM
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StriderXero
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Not for nothing but I'm kind of sick of people saying what Serra did was a fluke. Come on......the guy went in there with the intention to hurt GSP. Which he did. A fluke would be if GSP got injured just like Manny Gamburyan did in the TUF 5 finale. GSP got hit by a good punch. GSP said himself Serra was the better man that night. But I expect GSP to win the next one. Serra really lit a match under GSP's butt. This is the best GSP I've seen, and I will be rooting for him against Serra.
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Post #28 12/30/07 4:54:46PM
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Posted by Tailgunner
Posted by JimiMak
. Some fighters jsut have other guys #'s. Serra is better on the feet and on the ground. So let me ask you how in the world you see GSP winning?
Anyone who saw the last fight and thinks St Pierre takes this fight more than 3 out of 10 times is delusional.
Serra has never beat anyone in the top 5 ever!!!
GSP got caught with a fluke forearm to the back of his head and never recovered, Serra did a hell of a job by taking advantage of this and finished the fight like a stud.
Lets make a friendly wager of your choice.........ANYTHING you want cause I am 150% sure that GSP is gonna decimate Serra.
First off, I hate the term fluke, it rarely applies when used. Esp in this case. He controlled every bit of that fight. You can't argue that. He did what he wanted, followed his gameplan... fought the better fight. The back of the head hit thing is a tired excuse. I'm glad you at least give him credit for finishing well.
Oh and for the first part of what I quoted, you have to say except GSP. He went to dec w/ Karo. He's never lost harshly to anyone. It was a comeback and he's never climbed the ladder so to speak. But he controlled and dominated GSP in every aspect of that fight. Just cuz he shouldn't have gotten the title shot doesn't mean he didn't do everything right from gameplanning to execution. It was an upset not a fluke. GSP could win this, but i'd bet it's a dec.
Serra has always been known as a world class grappler, that night his striking looked better than ever and was superior to Georges'. I see no reason for that to change, especially as substantially as you're talkin.
Gimme a bit to think of an interesting wager, I'll bet you on this.
Last edited 12/30/07 5:00PM by JimiMak
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Post #29 12/30/07 5:00:09PM
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Posted by sammyd1213
Fitch= champ in '08
Joslin>Fitch
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