OFFICAL Pride vs UFC thread

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Posted by hippysmacker

This is the 4th UFC vs Pride thread( In one form or another) in a month, God help us all. I love MMA ,and will never love any org more than the other.


UFC advantages IMO-- has no freak show matches, makes the champs defend their belts, know's how to produce a show, never cuts away to audience shot's in the middle of a round,allow elbows , no soocer kicks or footstomps which are bad IMO and generally let's their fighter's know who they are fighting in advance.

Pride advantages IMO-Signifigantly more depth at HVY, the best fighter in the world IMO( Fedor), Allows knee's to the head on the ground, more knowledgable and repectful fans as a whole, more proven ( this does not mean better) lightweights at least against eachother


Does this make one beter IMO. No, I love them both and all MMA. I'm going to pin this topic and change the title to pride vs UFC. That way no one will hjave to start anymore of these threads.

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Posted by Aether

I don't really get the "pride guys keep losing to UFC guys" comment... I'm pretty sure there are at least as many successful crossovers as unsuccessful. Crocop and gomi are really the only pride fighters that have lost to UFC fighters, but PRIDE has also seen success in anderson silva and quinton jackson. I think that ultimately PRIDE has more of the top fighters all around, but we're just going to see both talent pools blend completely to settle all of these arguments soon enough anyway.

Saying that "5 of PRIDE's fighters are only around because of UFC" is also ridiculous.... there are fighters in the UFC who started in PRIDE... and all of these fighters started somewhere else befor either organization... pancrase, shooto, KOTC, etc, etc. does that mean whatever organization they started in is superior? Are any of the fighters that you listed other than Barnett even contenders? Does any of that really matter?

Personally I prefer PRIDE rules. I think that elbows generally just end up opening cuts which stop the fight prematurely, and this doesn't really show us who the more skilled fighter is. (fedor vs kosaka in RINGS is a good example of this) Soccer kicks and stomps are an effective tactic for assaulting someone trying to pull guard on you while you are still standing... how much sense does it make to throw a superman punch at someone who can upkick you when you can just soccer kick or stomp them? These attackes really aren't any more dangerous than a solid highkick or a standing knee in the clinch.

I also prefer the cage as it prevents a lot of unnecessary restarts... that's too bad if the handful of people at the actual event can't see as well, it makes for a better fight.

There are a lot of things I prefer about each organization, but both are great. The one thing I am very disappointed to see going is the judging system we see in PRIDE. I think most of the other differences are pretty inconsequential, but the difference between round by round scoring and PRIDE scoring is what makes the biggest difference in my mind. Take a look at fights like nogueira vs rodriguez... if that were scored by UFC rules rodriguez would have won as a result of his very boring performance. He did maintain the "dominant position" and land a lot of really pointless strikes, but nogueira was the one trying to finish the fight. His attempts might have fallen short, but his efforts to WIN as opposed to NOT LOSE are what gave him a victory. The scoring and the card system just force the fighters to put on a more entertaining fight.

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