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Heavyweight Chump
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Career record: 127-62
Season: 53-17 (#30)
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
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Major League Baseball and the Players Association share the blame for tolerating a widespread culture of drug abuse, George Mitchell's report on doping in baseball says, according to two lawyers who said they are familiar with the report.
Both lawyers told ESPN that the report assigns blame for the rise of performance-enhancing drugs in baseball "from top to bottom," and recommends that MLB and the union agree to outsource their drug testing program to an independent agency.
The sources would not reveal the names of players included in the report, but confirmed that as many as 80 are listed. One lawyer expected several "very, very high-level names" to be exposed, although Mitchell is frank in the report about how difficult it was to get information regarding the extent of player use.
"He admits that he can only go back so far because of the lack of cooperation, but says it's more important to move ahead," one lawyer said.
Mitchell plans to release his report at 2 p.m. ET Thursday at a news conference in New York City.
Baseball commissioner Bud Selig will hold his own news conference 2½ hours later.
"I haven't seen the report yet, but I'm proud I did it," Selig said, according to the Chicago Tribune. "People can say Bud was just trying to cover his butt or take care of his legacy or whatever. I say [expletive] it. This needed to be done, and now we've done it. I'm just happy it will be out there and we can move on. I'm proud of it."
While the report recognizes that Selig met fierce resistance from the union when he tried to implement tougher testing during recent years, the report says that all of baseball should have seen the warning signs that were evident years ago.
Baseball and its players reached an agreement in September 2002 to test for steroids. In 2005, a new, stricter policy was implemented. Baseball and the players agreed to ban HGH in 2005, although there is no reliable test to detect the drug.
Sources said yesterday that MLBPA officials were angered that Mitchell chose not to share the report with them, but that Mitchell felt he had no obligation to the union after they fought his efforts to interview players and obtain some medical records.
Mitchell's criticisms about the current testing procedures are similar to those baseball has dismissed from other critics in the past, such as calls for more frequent testing and greater transparency in the program.
"They aren't going to like it," one lawyer said.
When Selig announced Mitchell's investigation on March 30, 2006, he said Mitchell, the former Senate majority leader, was free to pursue his investigation wherever it led. He did not say, however, whether he would abide by all of the report's recommendations.
Besides either appointing an independent administrator or hiring an outside agency to run the program (MLB currently administers the program in conjunction with the Players Association), baseball should:
• Improve to "state-of-the-art" testing, including additional year-round tests with fewer opportunities for players to escape detection.
• Allow the testing administrator to actively investigate "non-analytical positives," meaning information that can show a player violated the doping policy in the absence of a positive urine test. Jay Gibbons and Jose Guillen, for example, were recently suspended after MLB received information from law enforcement sources documenting that the players had received banned drugs. Neither failed a drug test.
• Improve player education about performance-enhancing drugs.
• Allow greater transparency in the program, such as naming the drugs that players test positive for. Some players try to dodge responsibility for positive tests by saying they unwittingly took a tainted diet supplement. Certain drugs could not possibly have come from supplements, but because baseball doesn't name the substances it discovers, the press and public can't determine whether the player is telling the truth.
MLB officials did not return numerous calls seeking comment on Wednesday.
The Associated Press reported Wednesday that Bob DuPuy, baseball's chief operating officer, sent an e-mail to owners and team presidents in advance of the report with instructions how to respond to media inquiries.
"We look forward to carefully reading the results of Sen. Mitchell's investigation,'' the recommended response said, according to the AP.
"Protecting the integrity of our game is vital, and we intend to study his findings and recommendations, and will not comment until we have done so.''
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Post #1 12/13/07 9:51:33AM
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Heavyweight Chump
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Career record: 127-62
Season: 53-17 (#30)
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
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ESPN Radio (Mike & Mike) is reporting that ROGER CLEMENS will be named in the Mitchell Report.*
* They previously reported that SEVERAL prominent New York Yankees will also be named.
_______________________________________ If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. - Jack Handy
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Post #2 12/13/07 9:52:48AM
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cowcatcher
MMA Sensei
Career record: 223-120
Season: 49-20 (#64)
Location: Milwaukee
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im expecting a ton of big names to be on the list, im not pro-steroid use, but hitting a round ball at 100 MPH, or a huge bender with a cylinder is tough steroids or not. then again roids can mean the difference between a 350 ft drive and a 400 ft bomb.
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Post #3 12/13/07 11:49:14AM
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Heavyweight Chump
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Career record: 127-62
Season: 53-17 (#30)
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
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WNBC is reporting that Gary Sheffield, Jason Varitek and Kerry Wood will be named in the report.
_______________________________________ If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. - Jack Handy
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Post #4 12/13/07 1:09:46PM
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The Cowboys Mod
Career record: 142-101
Season: 41-29 (#1705)
Location: Maryland
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An article I read a short time ago on Yahoo Sports listed Roger Clemens and Andy Petitte as the first names coming out of the report. I now expect David Segui (a former Baltimore player who was a fan favorite for a while here) to be there as well given he fessed up the other day.
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Post #5 12/13/07 1:12:53PM
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Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 197-141
Season: 37-33 (#2654)
Location: East St. Paul, MN
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I'm not too surprised with the pitchers if they're named... I'd think that pitching has to take a HUGE toll on your throwing arm, and steroids would be widely used to heal injury quicker...
Not saying it's ok... Just saying I'm not surprised... Especially with guys the age of Clemens and Petite
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Post #6 12/13/07 2:28:04PM
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cowcatcher
MMA Sensei
Career record: 223-120
Season: 49-20 (#64)
Location: Milwaukee
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nice, a couple of days after the brewers sign gagne he shows up on the list.
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Post #7 12/13/07 2:59:37PM
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He's Back...
Career record: 163-86
Season: 0-0 (#9125)
Location: Sacramento, CA
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I dont condone steroids in any way... But for the freaking money that they are throwing these guys... Can you blame them?
I know nothing's worth your health in a perfect world, but c'mon. Lets be real here. The money that these guys make has to be contributing to the lapse in judgement.
Heres the entire PDF file of the report...
Mitchell Report
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Post #8 12/13/07 3:02:48PM
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cowcatcher
MMA Sensei
Career record: 223-120
Season: 49-20 (#64)
Location: Milwaukee
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heres a link to the entire report:link
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Post #9 12/13/07 3:45:39PM
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Heavyweight Chump
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Career record: 127-62
Season: 53-17 (#30)
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
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To summarize...some of the players named:
Roger Clemens Barry Bonds Jason Grimsley Miguel Tejada Hal Morris Benito Santiago Jason Giambi Andy Pettite Rondell White Glenallen Hill Mo Vaughn Juan Gonzalez Jose Canseco Todd Hundley Paul Lo Duca Jack Cust Ron Villone Nook Logan Gary Sheffield
...and I'm drawing a blank. Those are just the names I remember from skimming over the report. All 400+ pages.
_______________________________________ If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. - Jack Handy
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Post #10 12/13/07 3:51:42PM
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Heavyweight Chump
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Career record: 127-62
Season: 53-17 (#30)
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
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Here's an updated list...
Marvin Benard Larry Bigbie Barry Bonds Kevin Brown Roger Clemens Jack Cust Lenny Dykstra Eric Gagne Jason Giambi Troy Glaus Jerry Hairston, Jr. Glenallen Hill Todd Hundley David Justice Chuck Knoblauch Tim Laker Paul Lo Duca Kent Mercker Hal Morris Denny Neagle Andy Pettitte Brian Roberts John Rocker Benito Santiago David Segui Gary Sheffield Mike Stanton Miguel Tejada Mo Vaughn Randy Velarde Rondell White Gregg Zaun
Last edited 12/13/07 4:04PM by emfleek Edit note/reason: n/a
_______________________________________ If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. - Jack Handy
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Post #11 12/13/07 4:03:39PM
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szucconi
In Full Mount
Career record: 137-109
Season: 15-6 (#6013)
Location: Maryland
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Here is a complete list in order
Chad Allen Rick Ankiel David Bell Mike Bell Marvin Benard Gary Bennett Jr. Barry Bonds Larry Bigbie Kevin Brown Paul Byrd Jose Canseco Mark Carreon Jason Christiansen Howie Clark Roger Clemens Jack Cust Brendan Donnelly Chris Donnels Lenny Dykstra Bobby Estalella Matt Franco Ryan Franklin Eric Gagne Jason Giambi Jeremy Giambi Jay Gibbons Troy Glaus Jason Grimsley Jose Guillen Jerry Hairston Jr. Matt Herges Phil Hiatt Glenallen Hill Darren Holmes Todd Hundley David Justice Chuck Knoblauch Tim Laker Mike Lansing Paul Lo Duca Exavier "Nook" Logan Josias Manzanillo Gary Matthews Jr. Mark McGwire Cody McKay Kent Mercker Bart Miadich Hal Morris Daniel Naulty Denny Neagle Rafael Palmeiro Jim Parque Andy Pettitte Adam Piatt Todd Pratt Stephen Randolph Adam Riggs Brian Roberts John Rocker FP Santangelo Benito Santiago Scott Schoeneweis David Segui Gary Sheffield Mike Stanton Miguel Tejada Ismael Valdez Mo Vaughn Randy Velarde Ron Villone Fernando Vina Rondell White Matt Williams Jeff Williams Todd Williams Steve Woodard Kevin Young Greg Zaun
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Post #12 12/13/07 4:29:58PM
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The best kicker in the world
Career record: 170-89
Season: 37-18 (#2479)
Location: Regina SK
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Whats a bigger deal Bonds or Roger? I really don't want bonds to go to jail though.
_______________________________________ "Fall down 7 times, get up 8" - Japanese proverb.
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Post #13 12/13/07 5:07:08PM
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Career record: 222-123
Season: 45-25 (#854)
Location: Pennsylvania
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Im given up on baseball.With all the steroids stuff that and to me it really isn't a competetive sport anymore for all teams.Baseball just seems to be too overpowered with big market teams.Im a Pirates fan by default and they totally suck cause the owners seem to run the Pirates like a business and not like a sports team.It's a shame cause PNC Park is a really really nice stadium just sucks that no one wants to go to games to watch a team like Pirates lose alot.It's really not fair to the old time guys that broke records and such by not using any type of substance they did it with skill.I think its good congress got involved and is trying to weed out the guys that juiced.Also i think basbeall could use a salary cap to level the playing field.I mean i can say confidently that the Red Sox or another large market franchise will win the world series again next year.And i really hate the media anymore...Everytime i turn on espn its either....Steroids in baseball or something about the Patriots.Hell they even gave the Pats their own little tab on the bottom line...but thats another topic..
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Post #14 12/13/07 7:25:14PM
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GREENMAN!!!!
Career record: 134-73
Season: 50-20 (#178)
Location: selden, new york
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you know what really annoys me? (tangent alert) i love what the mlb is doing to rid its sport of illegal substances and steroids because i can never look at an athlete the same way if he / she has used steroids to profit from a competitive advantage and i am thoroughly impressed by the findings of mitchell.... but some sports personalities (john kruck) were complaining that the old names were named and i think that is just plain ridiculous to get mad about. he was arguing that the names of players that were not in the league shouldn't have been made public, but i thoroughly disagree because i want to know as a fan which player that i used to root for had to cheat to achieve his success. the baseball public has a right to know which athletes had to cheat in order to do well and so i believe it is 100% justified to name all of the names involved with this steroid debacle.
Now on to what really annoys me. with all of the steroid prevention the mlb has taken upon its shoulders by implementing new research for tests and implementing harsh penalties (mma does a nice job with steroid penalties as well) it sickens me when i see shawne merriman, who was caught using steroids, only get a 4 week suspension and still got into the pro bowl. i believe that the nfl has to take a stronger stance on steroids much like the mlb and mma are doing and can't just offer a slap on the wrist for steroid use in the sport where you can benefit the most form it imo.
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Post #15 12/13/07 8:35:15PM
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