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TWITA
MMA Regular
Career record: 177-82
Season: 46-24 (#1539)
Location: IN
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Why is the official scoring on my fantasy picks in the Danzig V. Speer fight a Round 1 TKO? Rear Naked Choke + tap by Speer = Submission
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Post #1 12/9/07 12:59:18AM
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McLovin'!!!
Career record: 176-83
Season: 55-15 (#5)
Location: Florida
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It is just an error, they will have it fixed shortly.
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Post #2 12/9/07 1:03:21AM
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Franklinfan47
In Full Mount
Career record: 186-99
Season: 49-21 (#30)
Location: Ontario
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Ya, its cuz they f'd it up over on sherdog
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Post #3 12/9/07 1:13:26AM
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Boondock Saints Mod
Career record: 220-126
Season: 50-20 (#137)
Location: California
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Fixed
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Post #4 12/9/07 1:22:14AM
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GSP's Blitzkrieg in progress
Career record: 181-78
Season: 47-23 (#347)
Location: st-felicien, quebec
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Well, it is fixed but the score have not been updated.
anyways , i will wait tomorrow.
One of my guys won the top scorers of the entire site !!
i am so happy for him !!
Last edited 12/9/07 1:27AM by tuvok500
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Ok here mine " There is no god but GSP and tuvok500 is the messenger of GSP " !!!
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Post #5 12/9/07 1:24:20AM
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kerryblue
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 202-108
Season: 45-25 (#471)
Location: Toronto
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The result has been changed to 'Submission', but the scoring is still reflective of a 'KO' result.
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Post #6 12/9/07 2:20:00AM
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Art_Vandelay
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 213-124
Season: 38-23 (#1444)
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I believe the general rule of a TKO/Tapout conflict is whether or not there was a tap.
Speer tapped out. 1st round submission victory for Danzig. That is how the score should go down.
In contrast, all that I've heard about the unaired prelim between Georgioff (sp?) and Goulet is that Goulet choked him out in the first. That should be scored as a 1st round (T)KO win for Goulet.
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Post #7 12/9/07 11:27:27AM
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D_O
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 153-90
Season: 49-21 (#114)
Location: Attleboro, MA
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Posted by Art_Vandelay
I believe the general rule of a TKO/Tapout conflict is whether or not there was a tap.
Speer tapped out. 1st round submission victory for Danzig. That is how the score should go down.
In contrast, all that I've heard about the unaired prelim between Georgioff (sp?) and Goulet is that Goulet choked him out in the first. That should be scored as a 1st round (T)KO win for Goulet.
This is incorrect. If a fighter does not tap, and falls unconscious, then it is scored a submission.
If a fighter is in a move like an armbar, and the ref stops the fight (maybe to a broken bone) then it is scored a technical submission. These situations still fall into the submission category.
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Post #8 12/10/07 12:21:08AM
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Goldenrod Off-topic mod
Career record: 199-135
Season: 39-30 (#2354)
Location: NL, Canada
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Posted by Art_Vandelay
I believe the general rule of a TKO/Tapout conflict is whether or not there was a tap.
Speer tapped out. 1st round submission victory for Danzig. That is how the score should go down.
In contrast, all that I've heard about the unaired prelim between Georgioff (sp?) and Goulet is that Goulet choked him out in the first. That should be scored as a 1st round (T)KO win for Goulet.
Georgioff was put ina submission. He got choked out and thus it should be a Technical submission.
Kinda the oppostie of what a TKO is in reference to KO.
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Post #9 12/10/07 10:11:13AM
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Art_Vandelay
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 213-124
Season: 38-23 (#1444)
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Interesting, I was not clear on the issue.
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Post #10 12/10/07 1:10:25PM
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D_O
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 153-90
Season: 49-21 (#114)
Location: Attleboro, MA
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Posted by madmarck
Posted by Art_Vandelay
I believe the general rule of a TKO/Tapout conflict is whether or not there was a tap.
Speer tapped out. 1st round submission victory for Danzig. That is how the score should go down.
In contrast, all that I've heard about the unaired prelim between Georgioff (sp?) and Goulet is that Goulet choked him out in the first. That should be scored as a 1st round (T)KO win for Goulet.
Georgioff was put ina submission. He got choked out and thus it should be a Technical submission.
Kinda the oppostie of what a TKO is in reference to KO.
If you are choked unconscious, it isn't a technical submission. It is just a submission. If you're unconscious, you body submitted for you. Therefore it is just a straight submission.
A technical submission is for when the ref stops the fight during a submission hold, like Royler Gracie vs. Sakuraba, or if a guy breaks his arm in a sub like Ranzo vs. Saku
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Post #11 12/10/07 6:02:07PM
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