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Tim Sylvia Vs. Semmy Schilt

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Tim Sylvia 11 44%
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i think that semmy would destroy sylvia imo...but u never kno...wat do yall think about this matchup

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Post #1   12/2/07 11:25:29PM   

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In MMA, Sylvia would destroy him by fighting from the clinch and he'd probably GnP him after a clinch takedown. In kickboxing, Schilt would probably win a decision.

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i think that schilts kickboxing is far superior to sylvias..and i dont think that tim could get close enough to put semmy in the clinch...and if the fight went to the ground i think that schilt would control the fight...unless he was mounted

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uhhh....semmy easily

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Posted by Svartorm

In MMA, Sylvia would destroy him by fighting from the clinch and he'd probably GnP him after a clinch takedown. In kickboxing, Schilt would probably win a decision.



I'll agree with the MMA part, but I think Schilt would beat SYlvia pretty badly in K-1. I think JLB , Aerts , even a past his prime Hoost would really take it to SYlvia in k-1 also.

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Well Sylvia is boring but he is effective and hard to deal with !!
I pick Sylvia because we are speaking about an MMA fight i guess .

Sylvia game plan should be to clinch and control his opponent on the fence but a take down and GNP would be a very wise choice !!


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Posted by george112

i think that schilts kickboxing is far superior to sylvias..and i dont think that tim could get close enough to put semmy in the clinch...and if the fight went to the ground i think that schilt would control the fight...unless he was mounted



I don't think Semmy would have much of a say in the matter, as far as clinch is concerned. He doesn't have KO power, especially against someone his own size, and Tim outweights him considerably, and Tim cuts to 265lbs, and Semmy walks around at a little over 250lbs.

Semmy was never more than a B-class MMA fighter, and his style of fighting doesn't translate well to MMA, especially the front kick he uses to keep people away from him. The guys body structure would make it very hard to avoid clinch takedowns, and I'm sure the coaches of MFS would see that and have Tim act on it.

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Tim would take him down from the affor mentioned front kick and gnp semmy. In K-1 Semmy via total destruction.

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MMA - Yeah Tim takes it, Semmy was never more than a dabbler in MMA. I think seeing his team mate Leko get embarressed twice (even though he is a skilled kickboxer) Semmy realised that they are two separate worlds and what back to what he is good at.

K-1 - Semmy by an absolutely brutal destruction. Yeah Semmy doesnt have great technique or the kind of power you expect from a man his size, but when he trains day in, day out to defend against the onslaught of guys like Aerts, JLB, Bonjasky, Hari etc, I doubt the Sluggish, weak Sylvia would have much of a chance. Semmy would use him as a punching bag, and would dominate any clinches that Tim tried for.

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I just had a funny thought, Semmy's used of the punches that guys like hari and bonjasky thow, imagin him looking at tims punches(slow in 4oz gloves lol) it'd be like spider man when peter watches the punches fly past him in slow motion lol.

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Semmy easily IMO!!!

He has the perfect style to absolutely destroy Tim Sylvia. AA had the perfect style but just wasn't tall enough. Semmy is though! Kickboxer's wn Tim IMO!!!

I see Semmy just chopping those tree chunk legs with leg kicks and circling so he won't get pinned against the cage. Wouldn't be really exciting since Tim don't press unless he's PNP(Pinning N Preying) against the cage. I have never seen Tim shoot I don't see how he will get him to the ground since I don't see Semmy letting it become a clinch fight.

Semmy by decision in basically a K-1 Kickboxing match with 4 ounce gloves except Semmy does not press as much and is smart and is able to pick Tim apart.

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I'm going to have to disagree on multiple counts.

AA has a good style, but hes far too passive, which is what cost him with Big Tim the third time, and hes been passive since. AA height had nothing to do with it, as hes not that much shorter than Tim, and I doubt his punches lose that much power against the larger opponent.

As for Semmy avoiding the clinch, watch any of his old UFC fights, or any of his fights for that matter. He has almost no octagon control, and found himself on the mat quite a bit. In kickboxing he doesn't need ring control skills because he can dictate the range of the fight and keep people at bay easily, but thats what killed him in MMA.

Also, clinching with a guy that lanky isn't difficult in the least, as his effective range is much further out than the average fighter. Once you clear the long limbs, you're golden, and Big Tim has more than enough muscle to pin him to the cage and use a clinch takedown.

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I didn't see any of his old UFC fights. I'm just going off his great K-1 Kickboxing ability that I have seen. IMO Tim's only real advantage is his size. He uses it against everybody. My feeling is if you give somebody as tall as him with good K-1 Kickboxing, I think they stand a phenomenal chance. I'll defintely check out those fights though...

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When has Tim ever gnp'd a W? His size would allow him that, but his style wouldn't. Semmy's standup is so much better, and it isn't like his all around game is that bad against another guy w/o a completer all around game. Semmy would control the standup, get clinched, hold, get split up, repeat. W via dec, most likely. I do think Schilt could ko Tim. I don't think Tim could ko Schilt. As unlikely as a sub would be, Semmy's the only one of the two that could conceivably get it.

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assuming sylvia would stand and bang with shilt like he has everyone else he has ever faced in his life shilt would completely outclass him standing, then kncok him out or mutilate him for a unani


And he probably would b/c he has stated that his standup is k-1 level. if this ever happened he would go down trying to prove a point.

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