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Are you more excited for GSP vs. Matt hughes rather then Matt hughes vs. matt serra
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PrimeElite16
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I think people need to give Matt Serra more respect...he isnt the champ because he sucks...
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Post #16 11/27/07 9:19:08PM
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Posted by tuvok500
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Posted by tuvok500
GSP / Hughes fight is a real fight with 2 top fighters who are going to a war to determine who is the best .
Serra / Hughes fight was a predictable destruction of a low level fighters who win the UFC belt by being the lukiest guy on earth that day , by a top fighter who was insulted for almost a year long .
GSP / Hughes fight is hard to predict, even if i really think that GSP will win the fight, but Serra / Hughes fight was a very easy fight to predict, probably Serra was having a realistic chance of winning the fight like 1 out of 1000 , same as his fight against GSP, so almost a sure well deserve destruction of Serra unless another miracle lucky day !!
so, i am much more exited to have GSP / Hughes for the interim belt !!
Your horrible grammar and spelling serves you right!
LOL !!
feel free to send me the correct english grammar ! i have edited the post a little but it is not perfect !! lol
or just tell me that you desagree with me if you really don't understand !! lol
You achieved a perfect score - "lol" in every line and an exclamation mark in every line.
I think Hughes/GSP is a guaranteed barnburner. I love all the smack talk, so if it's another 3, 6, 9 months before Hughes/Serra...I'm good with that.
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Post #17 11/27/07 11:30:42PM
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tlangley
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i'm gonna go with Hughes/Serra cuz we havent seen it yet
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Post #18 11/27/07 11:41:46PM
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Posted by tuvok500
GSP / Hughes fight is a real fight with 2 top fighters who are going to war to determine who is the best .
Serra / Hughes fight was a predictable destruction of a low level fighters who won the UFC belt by being the luckiest guy on earth , by a top fighter who was insulted all year long .
GSP / Hughes fight is hard to predict, even if i really think that GSP will win the fight, but Serra / Hughes fight was a very easy to predict fight , probably Serra was having like 1 out of 1000 realistic chance to win the fight , same as his fight against GSP, so almost a sure well deserved destruction of Serra unless another miracle lucky day !!
so, i am much more exited to have GSP / Hughes for the interim belt !!
BWAHAHAHAHA.... pure comedy at it's best.
You act like Serra landed one lucky ko punch. He dominated "the best" WW on earth. Pure domination. He came in smart, he played his gameplan, it was the opposite of what his opponent assumed he was gonna do. Like it or not he did everything right in that fight. I don't care what chance you thought he had. And that showed that his chances against Hughes were better since Hughes has worse standup than GSP. Serra stood a better shot at beating Hughes, imo, than he did GSP... and we all saw how that went. Accept the fact that this is only interim, cuz if GSP wins he lost to the guy, if Hughes wins he still has to fight the real champ. I hate when ppl try to ignore something cuz they consider it lucky. Unfortunately for Serra I think he stood a better shot against both guys before having to rehab an injury, when he was hungry and healthy.
this may or may not be a better fight. 4 mos ago I was expecting Shogun to kill Forrest. We don't know.
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Post #19 11/27/07 11:44:55PM
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Franklinfan47
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Serra did execute a good game plan and get the title. Granted. But I agree that the interim fight is the fight of the two best ww's in the world. I am much more excited to see them fight.
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Post #20 11/27/07 11:54:38PM
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Posted by JimiMak
Posted by tuvok500
GSP / Hughes fight is a real fight with 2 top fighters who are going to war to determine who is the best .
Serra / Hughes fight was a predictable destruction of a low level fighters who won the UFC belt by being the luckiest guy on earth , by a top fighter who was insulted all year long .
GSP / Hughes fight is hard to predict, even if i really think that GSP will win the fight, but Serra / Hughes fight was a very easy to predict fight , probably Serra was having like 1 out of 1000 realistic chance to win the fight , same as his fight against GSP, so almost a sure well deserved destruction of Serra unless another miracle lucky day !!
so, i am much more exited to have GSP / Hughes for the interim belt !!
BWAHAHAHAHA.... pure comedy at it's best.
You act like Serra landed one lucky ko punch. He dominated "the best" WW on earth. Pure domination. He came in smart, he played his gameplan, it was the opposite of what his opponent assumed he was gonna do. Like it or not he did everything right in that fight. I don't care what chance you thought he had. And that showed that his chances against Hughes were better since Hughes has worse standup than GSP. Serra stood a better shot at beating Hughes, imo, than he did GSP... and we all saw how that went. Accept the fact that this is only interim, cuz if GSP wins he lost to the guy, if Hughes wins he still has to fight the real champ. I hate when ppl try to ignore something cuz they consider it lucky. Unfortunately for Serra I think he stood a better shot against both guys before having to rehab an injury, when he was hungry and healthy.
this may or may not be a better fight. 4 mos ago I was expecting Shogun to kill Forrest. We don't know.
most hilarious comment ever !!
Allright, this is your WW ranking man :
#1 Matt Hughes
#2 Georges "Rush " St. Pierre
#3 Josh Koscheck
#4 Matt "The Terror" Serra
#5 Jon Fitch
#6 Karo "The Heat" Parisyan
#7 Diego "Nightmare" Sanchez
#8 Drew Fickett
#9 BJ "The Prodigy" Penn
#10 John "The Natural " Alessio
now this is mine :
#1 Matt "The Terror" Serra
#2 Georges "Rush " St. Pierre
#3 Matt Hughes
#4 Jon Fitch
#5 BJ "The Prodigy" Penn
#6 Josh Koscheck
#7 Diego "Nightmare" Sanchez
#8 Karo "The Heat" Parisyan
#9 Jake Shields
#10 Thiago "Pitbull" Alves
so, you can say whatever you want man, but even if i believe that Serra got lucky i ranked him at the #1 spot witch mean that i accepted his win and gave him credit .
But you are telling me that Serra dominated the best WW in the world ( GSP ) and i don't want to accept it and bla bla bla , but you have Serra #4 in your ranking !! funny !
maybe you should accept the fact yourself and rank your heros at his real place as the UFC WW champ before telling me what to think or what to do man !
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Post #21 11/28/07 12:11:14AM
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at least now its a sure thing that hughes' face will get messed up, serra probably woulda won by KO but at least a beatdown is a sure thing, thanks dana
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Post #22 11/28/07 12:51:53AM
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Hughes Vs St Pierre 3 was the fight I was looking forward to most out of any fight out there. With that said I have to say I wish it was under better circumstances, like for the real belt, instead of the interm one. Also I wanted it to see Serra fight someone of the highest calibur other then GSP to see if he wasn't just a fluke. Even though I was pissed off about how long Dana made everyone wait for Serra to defend his belt, I did really want to see how the whole Hughes Serra feud would end. Plus we waited so long, and for it not to happen is a let down, and in my opinion takes away from what should have been (and might still be) the biggest fight ever in the welter weight division, St. Pierre Vs Hughes 3. On the plus side, this road might be the only way for GSP to avenge his loss over Serra. Lets say Serra never gets hurt, and he fights Hughes as planned. Hughes wins, then GSP get his title shot and beats Hughes, and regains the belt. Well if thats how it happens (in my opinion that would be the most likely senario) then Serra falls down the ladder and in WW it's a big ladder. Another title shot doesn't seem likely, he would most likely have to beat 2 top guys before he gets another crack. We're talking guys like Fitch, Parisyan, Koscheck, Swick, Burkman, Sanchez, etc. etc. I don't see anyway he gets another crack at GSP. So at least this way, if Georges takes care of business and beats hughes, then he gets his fight against Serra, and assuming he wins that, we finally straighten out the division, and get to see fights like GSP Vs Fitch. Plus if GSP beats both Hughes and Serra, they can have there little grudge match afterwards. And thats really all it is anyway, a grudge match. So in the end I am really excited for this fight, it's hard not to be.
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Post #23 11/28/07 3:41:46AM
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Posted by tuvok500
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Posted by tuvok500
GSP / Hughes fight is a real fight with 2 top fighters who are going to a war to determine who is the best .
Serra / Hughes fight was a predictable destruction of a low level fighters who win the UFC belt by being the lukiest guy on earth that day , by a top fighter who was insulted for almost a year long .
GSP / Hughes fight is hard to predict, even if i really think that GSP will win the fight, but Serra / Hughes fight was a very easy fight to predict, probably Serra was having a realistic chance of winning the fight like 1 out of 1000 , same as his fight against GSP, so almost a sure well deserve destruction of Serra unless another miracle lucky day !!
so, i am much more exited to have GSP / Hughes for the interim belt !!
Your horrible grammar and spelling serves you right!
LOL !!
feel free to send me the correct english grammar ! i have edited the post a little but it is not perfect !! lol
or just tell me that you desagree with me if you really don't understand !! lol
I totally disagree with what you said. That's why you deserve your grammar and spelling.
Some smart guys like cowcatcher, PrimeElite and JimiMak have already posted this but Serra deserves more respect and I'm so damn tired of the whole "lucky punch" bullshit. It wasn't luck who got inside and landed that first punch, it wasn't luck that was able to stun GSP again and again until he fell down and it wasn't luck standing over GSP landing shots until he was desperately reaching for Big John to step in and save him.
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Post #24 11/28/07 3:44:28AM
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yeah i think it could be a better fight although i wanted to see the hughes vs serra one more
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Post #25 11/28/07 10:38:15AM
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Posted by Stickan
Posted by tuvok500
Posted by Stickan
Posted by tuvok500
GSP / Hughes fight is a real fight with 2 top fighters who are going to a war to determine who is the best .
Serra / Hughes fight was a predictable destruction of a low level fighters who win the UFC belt by being the lukiest guy on earth that day , by a top fighter who was insulted for almost a year long .
GSP / Hughes fight is hard to predict, even if i really think that GSP will win the fight, but Serra / Hughes fight was a very easy fight to predict, probably Serra was having a realistic chance of winning the fight like 1 out of 1000 , same as his fight against GSP, so almost a sure well deserve destruction of Serra unless another miracle lucky day !!
so, i am much more exited to have GSP / Hughes for the interim belt !!
Your horrible grammar and spelling serves you right!
LOL !!
feel free to send me the correct english grammar ! i have edited the post a little but it is not perfect !! lol
or just tell me that you desagree with me if you really don't understand !! lol
I totally disagree with what you said. That's why you deserve your grammar and spelling.
Some smart guys like cowcatcher, PrimeElite and JimiMak have already posted this but Serra deserves more respect and I'm so damn tired of the whole "lucky punch" bullshit. It wasn't luck who got inside and landed that first punch, it wasn't luck that was able to stun GSP again and again until he fell down and it wasn't luck standing over GSP landing shots until he was desperately reaching for Big John to step in and save him.
It is not because i think he got lucky that he did not win the fight.
he won the fight, i have him #1 in the WW ranking, he have the belt , if someone ask me who is the WW champ i will answer Serra, etc..
but man, if you believe that there are absolutely no luck in a MMA fight sometimes, you are wrong for sure.
Ed Herman got trap in a full triagle choke at ufc 78 but he was save by the bell, this is luck, Big Nog got rock against herring but it was Yves Lavigne the ref. and he gave him 10X more times to recover than any others referee would have normaly gave him and he did comeback to win the fight, he got lucky to have lavigne as referee , Pulver was in a full armbar against BJ at there first fight but the bell rang just before he tap , this is luck.
As for Serra , he punched GSP behind the head witch put GSP in trouble, normally the ref. would have stop the fight and gave GSP 5 min to recover and was supposed to give a warning to Serra, but the ref did nothing and after that, GSP was in trouble because when you got hit behind the head, the first problem that you have is that your brain give you the wrong information about the distance of your opponent , so the second punch landed and GSP was done.
So , serra got lucky to not receive a warning by the ref. and to have the chance to hit GSP again when he was still in trouble.
he did not got lucky for every single move that he did, but the end of the fight was a direct result of the illegal punch who was not called by the ref.
We see something like that very often in MMA but it doesn't mean that it is not illegal , and when it is not call and you win the fight because of that, iti is your lucky day.
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Post #26 11/28/07 11:23:36AM
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I'm more excited for the Hughes/GSP fight then with Serra. I like watching Serra in and out of the ring, but this rematch will make for a better matchup I fell.
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Post #27 11/28/07 11:32:59AM
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GSP/Hughes is definitely the better fight and props to both fighters for steeping up and taking the fight. but i think i would rather see Hughes/Serra for the same reason Matt Hughes would rather fight serra as stated in the GSP/Hughes 3 press conference. GSP is always going to be a top 3 WW at least for a very long time so Hughes GSP could pretty much always happen as long as Hughes stays in the game for a while (which it looks like he will be for at least another 2-3 years). Where as Serra really isn't that good and we don't know how long he can really make it in the UFC. I mean the whole reason he was on TUF comeback was because he couldn't get it done in the UFC the first time, Yeah he had a good fight against BJ and all that but he really didn't do much so i honestly don't believe Serra is going to be around to much longer. Because of this I'd rather see Hughes fight Serra first not because it's the better fight but so that Hughes can stand up over a bloody serra look him in the eye while wearing his belt and force serra to shake his hand, then Hughes can give him a wedgy before Serra is gone and Hughes doesn't have the chance to fight him. where as if Hughes losses to GSP then he might not get the chance to fight serra. Also Serra is kind of getting the easy way out as Hughes also stated. With GSP/Hughes 3 happening now if GSP wins they fight and then kicks Serra's @$$ then who knows if the hughes/serra fight will happen. but if Hughes beats Serra like he will before Hughes/GSP 3 Serra and GSP would probably fight for the #1 contender ship in Serra's next fight. Hughes/Serra gives Serra an almost 90% of havening to fight both hughes and GSP. where as GSP/Hughes 3 first brings that chance down a significant bit. Like i said though GSP/Hughes 3 is definitely the better fight though. I mean no disrespect to Serra (Because of coarse he is the last guy on earth who deserves not to be disrespected) because he dominated one of the best if not the Best WW at the time and i don't believe in lucky KOs and things like that. Serra executed to perfection. That being said GSP admitted he didn't have the chance to train properly and that his training was hampered by injuries and he made a mistake by taking the fight and i really do believe that 9/10 times GSP KO's Serra 2-3 minutes into the first round regardless of the one time Serra did dominate GSP.
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Post #28 11/28/07 3:56:22PM
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PrimeElite16
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I think the serra hughes fight would have been better because i wanted to see them fight after they were around each other during the TUF season...
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Post #29 11/28/07 5:15:13PM
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Posted by tuvok500
GSP / Hughes fight is a real fight with 2 top fighters who are going to war to determine who is the best .
Serra / Hughes fight was a predictable destruction of a low level fighters who won the UFC belt by being the luckiest guy on earth , by a top fighter who was insulted all year long .
GSP / Hughes fight is hard to predict, even if i really think that GSP will win the fight, but Serra / Hughes fight was a very easy to predict fight , probably Serra was having like 1 out of 1000 realistic chance to win the fight , same as his fight against GSP, so almost a sure well deserved destruction of Serra unless another miracle lucky day !!
so, i am much more exited to have GSP / Hughes for the interim belt !!
BWAHAHAHAHA.... pure comedy at it's best.
You act like Serra landed one lucky ko punch. He dominated "the best" WW on earth. Pure domination. He came in smart, he played his gameplan, it was the opposite of what his opponent assumed he was gonna do. Like it or not he did everything right in that fight. I don't care what chance you thought he had. And that showed that his chances against Hughes were better since Hughes has worse standup than GSP. Serra stood a better shot at beating Hughes, imo, than he did GSP... and we all saw how that went. Accept the fact that this is only interim, cuz if GSP wins he lost to the guy, if Hughes wins he still has to fight the real champ. I hate when ppl try to ignore something cuz they consider it lucky. Unfortunately for Serra I think he stood a better shot against both guys before having to rehab an injury, when he was hungry and healthy.
this may or may not be a better fight. 4 mos ago I was expecting Shogun to kill Forrest. We don't know.
I don't mean to take anything away from Serra... But it was a lucky punch... He caught him, and then finished him... He did do exactly what he was supposed to, but to atribute it too Matt Serra's dominating standup game is a bit of a stretch...
I don't think anyone considered Matt Serra a top 10 WW before he won his title shot... He hadn't beaten any top 10 WW either, so I think the general consensus that Serra got the lucky win stems from the fact that a lot of people didn't think that he deserved the title shot.
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