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Posted by hippysmacker
Well thats settled
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Post #16 11/19/07 11:22:13PM
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NO IT'S NOT SETTLED!!!
He lost to somebody IMO is the next UFC LHW champ. Thiago is beast. He's a beast on the feet and a monster on the ground. He trains with Chutebox and they go all out so you know he has a great chin from getting toughened up there. Thiago is coming into his prime. He is the perfect mix of Wandy & Shogun.
He'd kill Machida, Jardine, and Chuck and Wandy(Doubt fight happens but he would). It's just he doesent have those quality wins yet. I hope he fights the winner of Machida/Soko and just destroys them so you guys can see how beastly he is.
As for the Houston Alexander. HE WAS TOP 10 and IMO IS STILL TOP 10. He'd freakin Kill Liddell. He'd kill Jardine a second time since those two are Stand up fighters. Wandy's chin is becoming weak from all them blows he takes. I think Houston could finsih him.
Ya'll need to get over the fact Liddell will never be champ again and needs to drop out your top 10. This guy runs through Jardine who many think deserves a title shot because he OBLITERATED Liddell. Houston is for real and it was just because he had a bad GAMEPLAN. This fight PROVED NOTHING. Except Thiago is the freakin future. Besides being his old going for the KO self Houston fell into the hype that he had no ground game and tried too hard to prove people wrong by taking it there or maybe he took it there because he knew he was going donw eventually. Who knows...
Houston is still Top 10 IMO and Liddell drops out. All 78 proved was Thiago belongs not only in the top 10 but real high. I see him running through the 205 division old school Wandy/Shogun style.
And you can quote me on that...
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Post #17 11/20/07 1:30:00AM
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Because you used caps, I have decided that my opinion isnt as good as yours.
Nice rant, but it's all still speculation on your part.
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Post #18 11/20/07 1:52:17AM
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Posted by NatedawgThaM
NO IT'S NOT SETTLED!!!
He lost to somebody IMO is the next UFC LHW champ. Thiago is beast. He's a beast on the feet and a monster on the ground. He trains with Chutebox and they go all out so you know he has a great chin from getting toughened up there. Thiago is coming into his prime. He is the perfect mix of Wandy & Shogun.
He'd kill Machida, Jardine, and Chuck and Wandy(Doubt fight happens but he would). It's just he doesent have those quality wins yet. I hope he fights the winner of Machida/Soko and just destroys them so you guys can see how beastly he is.
As for the Houston Alexander. HE WAS TOP 10 and IMO IS STILL TOP 10. He'd freakin Kill Liddell. He'd kill Jardine a second time since those two are Stand up fighters. Wandy's chin is becoming weak from all them blows he takes. I think Houston could finsih him.
Ya'll need to get over the fact Liddell will never be champ again and needs to drop out your top 10. This guy runs through Jardine who many think deserves a title shot because he OBLITERATED Liddell. Houston is for real and it was just because he had a bad GAMEPLAN. This fight PROVED NOTHING. Except Thiago is the freakin future. Besides being his old going for the KO self Houston fell into the hype that he had no ground game and tried too hard to prove people wrong by taking it there or maybe he took it there because he knew he was going donw eventually. Who knows...
Houston is still Top 10 IMO and Liddell drops out. All 78 proved was Thiago belongs not only in the top 10 but real high. I see him running through the 205 division old school Wandy/Shogun style.
And you can quote me on that...
I just did and I will in the future. If Silva fights the winner, or loser of Soko/Machida ,I will bet you Av's for a month. Nothing lame or childish, but it's obvious you don't care for Liddell. I agree Jardine won that fight, but if you think that was obliteration ,what Wandy did to Rampage must beyond words for you. Jardine was never even close to finishing him. A decision victory that was an obliteration would be more along the lines of Fedor/Big NOG 1. How bout this. If Thiago fights Machida,Sokodjou, or Liddell and wins I will make him my Av for a month. If he loses you have to make yours Liddell. Let me know if your in, because you seem awful certain, and I'm even willing to give you 3 different fighters to chose from against your top 3 or 5 guy. 
You see, whenever someone post their opinion so vehemently it makes me curious about the courage of their convictions. So I did a little investigating after my initial post .
1. While you did have Houston ranked #7 in your top 10, you did not have Thiago in their at all.
Rank Fighter
#1 Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
#2 Dan "Hollywood" Henderson
#3 Wanderlei "The Axe Murderer" Silva
#4 Keith "The Dean of Mean" Jardine
#5 Forrest Griffin
#6 Mauricio "Shogun" Rua
#7 Houston "The Assassin" Alexander
#8 Tito "Huntington Beach Bad Boy" Ortiz
#9 Ricardo Arona
#10 Rameau "African Assassin" Sokoudjou
Rank totals updated as of UFC 77: Hostile Territory
2. This post of yours from October made me curious.
To me this match up looks just like Houston vs Sakara. Silva is way more technical. He likes to brawl though. Houston will give him that. ANOTHER ALL OUT WAR!!!
I got Houston tagging him though and knocking him out in 2 minutes but almost dies talking to Joe Rogan...
Post #3 10/4/07 6:15:45PM
Later you did change your pick to Silva before the fight. So that seems to me to imply you could possibly be the type of guy who gets all fired when somebody has a good showing or 2. It would explain the Caps, exclamation points, and hyperbole at least. If so, It's possible you will calm down later and change your mind about this declaration.So to me that means I got to make this bet while the irons hot. Balls in your court
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Post #19 11/20/07 7:17:06AM
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Posted by hippysmacker
Posted by NatedawgThaM
NO IT'S NOT SETTLED!!!
He lost to somebody IMO is the next UFC LHW champ. Thiago is beast. He's a beast on the feet and a monster on the ground. He trains with Chutebox and they go all out so you know he has a great chin from getting toughened up there. Thiago is coming into his prime. He is the perfect mix of Wandy & Shogun.
He'd kill Machida, Jardine, and Chuck and Wandy(Doubt fight happens but he would). It's just he doesent have those quality wins yet. I hope he fights the winner of Machida/Soko and just destroys them so you guys can see how beastly he is.
As for the Houston Alexander. HE WAS TOP 10 and IMO IS STILL TOP 10. He'd freakin Kill Liddell. He'd kill Jardine a second time since those two are Stand up fighters. Wandy's chin is becoming weak from all them blows he takes. I think Houston could finsih him.
Ya'll need to get over the fact Liddell will never be champ again and needs to drop out your top 10. This guy runs through Jardine who many think deserves a title shot because he OBLITERATED Liddell. Houston is for real and it was just because he had a bad GAMEPLAN. This fight PROVED NOTHING. Except Thiago is the freakin future. Besides being his old going for the KO self Houston fell into the hype that he had no ground game and tried too hard to prove people wrong by taking it there or maybe he took it there because he knew he was going donw eventually. Who knows...
Houston is still Top 10 IMO and Liddell drops out. All 78 proved was Thiago belongs not only in the top 10 but real high. I see him running through the 205 division old school Wandy/Shogun style.
And you can quote me on that...
I just did and I will in the future. If Silva fights the winner, or loser of Soko/Machida ,I will bet you Av's for a month. Nothing lame or childish, but it's obvious you don't care for Liddell. I agree Jardine won that fight, but if you think that was obliteration ,what Wandy did to Rampage must beyond words for you. Jardine was never even close to finishing him. A decision victory that was an obliteration would be more along the lines of Fedor/Big NOG 1. How bout this. If Thiago fights Machida,Sokodjou, or Liddell and wins I will make him my Av for a month. If he loses you have to make yours Liddell. Let me know if your in, because you seem awful certain, and I'm even willing to give you 3 different fighters to chose from against your top 3 or 5 guy.
You see, whenever someone post their opinion so vehemently it makes me curious about the courage of their convictions. So I did a little investigating after my initial post .
1. While you did have Houston ranked #7 in your top 10, you did not have Thiago in their at all.
Rank Fighter
#1 Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
#2 Dan "Hollywood" Henderson
#3 Wanderlei "The Axe Murderer" Silva
#4 Keith "The Dean of Mean" Jardine
#5 Forrest Griffin
#6 Mauricio "Shogun" Rua
#7 Houston "The Assassin" Alexander
#8 Tito "Huntington Beach Bad Boy" Ortiz
#9 Ricardo Arona
#10 Rameau "African Assassin" Sokoudjou
Rank totals updated as of UFC 77: Hostile Territory
2. This post of yours from October made me curious.
To me this match up looks just like Houston vs Sakara. Silva is way more technical. He likes to brawl though. Houston will give him that. ANOTHER ALL OUT WAR!!!
I got Houston tagging him though and knocking him out in 2 minutes but almost dies talking to Joe Rogan...
Post #3 10/4/07 6:15:45PM
Later you did change your pick to Silva before the fight. So that seems to me to imply you could possibly be the type of guy who gets all fired when somebody has a good showing or 2. It would explain the Caps, exclamation points, and hyperbole at least. If so, It's possible you will calm down later and change your mind about this declaration.So to me that means I got to make this bet while the irons hot. Balls in your court
I made that post before I asked in the MMA Lounge were I could find a Thiago silva fight and then I saw a few and learned he was a BBJ black belt and he trains wit Chutebox so I chaned my mind to "Theres no way." I could have swore I threw Thiago at #10 but I guess I just did that in post were people were asking about the Top 10 and didn't change it.
I'll take the bet. If Thiago beats Soko, Liddell, Machida and I'll even add Forrest and Jardine if you want to since I'm REALLY confident Thiago can beat any of those, you make him your av. But if he loses to any of those fighters, you pick the Liddell pic and I'll put it in my avatar slot. Deal?
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Post #20 11/20/07 3:02:46PM
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Posted by hippysmacker
I just did and I will in the future. If Silva fights the winner, or loser of Soko/Machida ,I will bet you Av's for a month.
So to me that means I got to make this bet while the irons hot. Balls in your court
I will take this Av. bet as well. Silva is good, but not that good.
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Post #21 11/20/07 3:42:02PM
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ok, if Thiago Silva. Hippysmacker choses the Chuck avatar for the 1st month and you chose whatever pick you want me to use in the next month. I ain't losing this bet. Thiago is a beast.
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Post #22 11/20/07 3:44:01PM
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Posted by hippysmacker
Posted by NatedawgThaM
NO IT'S NOT SETTLED!!!
He lost to somebody IMO is the next UFC LHW champ. Thiago is beast. He's a beast on the feet and a monster on the ground. He trains with Chutebox and they go all out so you know he has a great chin from getting toughened up there. Thiago is coming into his prime. He is the perfect mix of Wandy & Shogun.
He'd kill Machida, Jardine, and Chuck and Wandy(Doubt fight happens but he would). It's just he doesent have those quality wins yet. I hope he fights the winner of Machida/Soko and just destroys them so you guys can see how beastly he is.
As for the Houston Alexander. HE WAS TOP 10 and IMO IS STILL TOP 10. He'd freakin Kill Liddell. He'd kill Jardine a second time since those two are Stand up fighters. Wandy's chin is becoming weak from all them blows he takes. I think Houston could finsih him.
Ya'll need to get over the fact Liddell will never be champ again and needs to drop out your top 10. This guy runs through Jardine who many think deserves a title shot because he OBLITERATED Liddell. Houston is for real and it was just because he had a bad GAMEPLAN. This fight PROVED NOTHING. Except Thiago is the freakin future. Besides being his old going for the KO self Houston fell into the hype that he had no ground game and tried too hard to prove people wrong by taking it there or maybe he took it there because he knew he was going donw eventually. Who knows...
Houston is still Top 10 IMO and Liddell drops out. All 78 proved was Thiago belongs not only in the top 10 but real high. I see him running through the 205 division old school Wandy/Shogun style.
And you can quote me on that...
I just did and I will in the future. If Silva fights the winner, or loser of Soko/Machida ,I will bet you Av's for a month. Nothing lame or childish, but it's obvious you don't care for Liddell. I agree Jardine won that fight, but if you think that was obliteration ,what Wandy did to Rampage must beyond words for you. Jardine was never even close to finishing him. A decision victory that was an obliteration would be more along the lines of Fedor/Big NOG 1. How bout this. If Thiago fights Machida,Sokodjou, or Liddell and wins I will make him my Av for a month. If he loses you have to make yours Liddell. Let me know if your in, because you seem awful certain, and I'm even willing to give you 3 different fighters to chose from against your top 3 or 5 guy.
You see, whenever someone post their opinion so vehemently it makes me curious about the courage of their convictions. So I did a little investigating after my initial post .
1. While you did have Houston ranked #7 in your top 10, you did not have Thiago in their at all.
Rank Fighter
#1 Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
#2 Dan "Hollywood" Henderson
#3 Wanderlei "The Axe Murderer" Silva
#4 Keith "The Dean of Mean" Jardine
#5 Forrest Griffin
#6 Mauricio "Shogun" Rua
#7 Houston "The Assassin" Alexander
#8 Tito "Huntington Beach Bad Boy" Ortiz
#9 Ricardo Arona
#10 Rameau "African Assassin" Sokoudjou
Rank totals updated as of UFC 77: Hostile Territory
2. This post of yours from October made me curious.
To me this match up looks just like Houston vs Sakara. Silva is way more technical. He likes to brawl though. Houston will give him that. ANOTHER ALL OUT WAR!!!
I got Houston tagging him though and knocking him out in 2 minutes but almost dies talking to Joe Rogan...
Post #3 10/4/07 6:15:45PM
Later you did change your pick to Silva before the fight. So that seems to me to imply you could possibly be the type of guy who gets all fired when somebody has a good showing or 2. It would explain the Caps, exclamation points, and hyperbole at least. If so, It's possible you will calm down later and change your mind about this declaration.So to me that means I got to make this bet while the irons hot. Balls in your court
ouch, that was pwnage......damn the internet for making investigating easy
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Post #23 11/20/07 3:53:26PM
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Posted by hippysmacker
Posted by NatedawgThaM
NO IT'S NOT SETTLED!!!
He lost to somebody IMO is the next UFC LHW champ. Thiago is beast. He's a beast on the feet and a monster on the ground. He trains with Chutebox and they go all out so you know he has a great chin from getting toughened up there. Thiago is coming into his prime. He is the perfect mix of Wandy & Shogun.
He'd kill Machida, Jardine, and Chuck and Wandy(Doubt fight happens but he would). It's just he doesent have those quality wins yet. I hope he fights the winner of Machida/Soko and just destroys them so you guys can see how beastly he is.
As for the Houston Alexander. HE WAS TOP 10 and IMO IS STILL TOP 10. He'd freakin Kill Liddell. He'd kill Jardine a second time since those two are Stand up fighters. Wandy's chin is becoming weak from all them blows he takes. I think Houston could finsih him.
Ya'll need to get over the fact Liddell will never be champ again and needs to drop out your top 10. This guy runs through Jardine who many think deserves a title shot because he OBLITERATED Liddell. Houston is for real and it was just because he had a bad GAMEPLAN. This fight PROVED NOTHING. Except Thiago is the freakin future. Besides being his old going for the KO self Houston fell into the hype that he had no ground game and tried too hard to prove people wrong by taking it there or maybe he took it there because he knew he was going donw eventually. Who knows...
Houston is still Top 10 IMO and Liddell drops out. All 78 proved was Thiago belongs not only in the top 10 but real high. I see him running through the 205 division old school Wandy/Shogun style.
And you can quote me on that...
I just did and I will in the future. If Silva fights the winner, or loser of Soko/Machida ,I will bet you Av's for a month. Nothing lame or childish, but it's obvious you don't care for Liddell. I agree Jardine won that fight, but if you think that was obliteration ,what Wandy did to Rampage must beyond words for you. Jardine was never even close to finishing him. A decision victory that was an obliteration would be more along the lines of Fedor/Big NOG 1. How bout this. If Thiago fights Machida,Sokodjou, or Liddell and wins I will make him my Av for a month. If he loses you have to make yours Liddell. Let me know if your in, because you seem awful certain, and I'm even willing to give you 3 different fighters to chose from against your top 3 or 5 guy.
You see, whenever someone post their opinion so vehemently it makes me curious about the courage of their convictions. So I did a little investigating after my initial post .
1. While you did have Houston ranked #7 in your top 10, you did not have Thiago in their at all.
Rank Fighter
#1 Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
#2 Dan "Hollywood" Henderson
#3 Wanderlei "The Axe Murderer" Silva
#4 Keith "The Dean of Mean" Jardine
#5 Forrest Griffin
#6 Mauricio "Shogun" Rua
#7 Houston "The Assassin" Alexander
#8 Tito "Huntington Beach Bad Boy" Ortiz
#9 Ricardo Arona
#10 Rameau "African Assassin" Sokoudjou
Rank totals updated as of UFC 77: Hostile Territory
2. This post of yours from October made me curious.
To me this match up looks just like Houston vs Sakara. Silva is way more technical. He likes to brawl though. Houston will give him that. ANOTHER ALL OUT WAR!!!
I got Houston tagging him though and knocking him out in 2 minutes but almost dies talking to Joe Rogan...
Post #3 10/4/07 6:15:45PM
Later you did change your pick to Silva before the fight. So that seems to me to imply you could possibly be the type of guy who gets all fired when somebody has a good showing or 2. It would explain the Caps, exclamation points, and hyperbole at least. If so, It's possible you will calm down later and change your mind about this declaration.So to me that means I got to make this bet while the irons hot. Balls in your court
SPANKED... Hardcore
EDIT: Jsut to add my 0.02$ about the HA ranking topic... I don' t really think he was ever in the top10... At least not mine... Sure he put on exciting fights, but there's a little more to it than that...
He beat Keith Jardine, who at the time I would've had ranked somewhere between 10-20... And then takes a step down in comp to fight Sakara? I don't see how this warants a top 10 ranking... IMO you at least have to beat someone in the tt to be in tt...
This fight was no fluke... Houston got dominated, he didn't throw much leather standing, and was easily handled on the ground... He's an exciting fighter, but has to win a big fight or two to even be considered tt.
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Post #24 11/20/07 4:00:58PM
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Wow you guys. Did you see when I posted that? Beginning of october. I love how I posted it a month and a half before the fight and when I actually see a Thiago fight I can't change my mind.
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Post #25 11/20/07 4:16:44PM
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Posted by NatedawgThaM
NO IT'S NOT SETTLED!!!
He lost to somebody IMO is the next UFC LHW champ. Thiago is beast. He's a beast on the feet and a monster on the ground. He trains with Chutebox and they go all out so you know he has a great chin from getting toughened up there. Thiago is coming into his prime. He is the perfect mix of Wandy & Shogun.
He'd kill Machida, Jardine, and Chuck and Wandy(Doubt fight happens but he would). It's just he doesent have those quality wins yet. I hope he fights the winner of Machida/Soko and just destroys them so you guys can see how beastly he is.
As for the Houston Alexander. HE WAS TOP 10 and IMO IS STILL TOP 10. He'd freakin Kill Liddell. He'd kill Jardine a second time since those two are Stand up fighters. Wandy's chin is becoming weak from all them blows he takes. I think Houston could finsih him.
Ya'll need to get over the fact Liddell will never be champ again and needs to drop out your top 10. This guy runs through Jardine who many think deserves a title shot because he OBLITERATED Liddell. Houston is for real and it was just because he had a bad GAMEPLAN. This fight PROVED NOTHING. Except Thiago is the freakin future. Besides being his old going for the KO self Houston fell into the hype that he had no ground game and tried too hard to prove people wrong by taking it there or maybe he took it there because he knew he was going donw eventually. Who knows...
Houston is still Top 10 IMO and Liddell drops out. All 78 proved was Thiago belongs not only in the top 10 but real high. I see him running through the 205 division old school Wandy/Shogun style.
And you can quote me on that...
I just did and I will in the future. If Silva fights the winner, or loser of Soko/Machida ,I will bet you Av's for a month. Nothing lame or childish, but it's obvious you don't care for Liddell. I agree Jardine won that fight, but if you think that was obliteration ,what Wandy did to Rampage must beyond words for you. Jardine was never even close to finishing him. A decision victory that was an obliteration would be more along the lines of Fedor/Big NOG 1. How bout this. If Thiago fights Machida,Sokodjou, or Liddell and wins I will make him my Av for a month. If he loses you have to make yours Liddell. Let me know if your in, because you seem awful certain, and I'm even willing to give you 3 different fighters to chose from against your top 3 or 5 guy.
You see, whenever someone post their opinion so vehemently it makes me curious about the courage of their convictions. So I did a little investigating after my initial post .
1. While you did have Houston ranked #7 in your top 10, you did not have Thiago in their at all.
Rank Fighter
#1 Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
#2 Dan "Hollywood" Henderson
#3 Wanderlei "The Axe Murderer" Silva
#4 Keith "The Dean of Mean" Jardine
#5 Forrest Griffin
#6 Mauricio "Shogun" Rua
#7 Houston "The Assassin" Alexander
#8 Tito "Huntington Beach Bad Boy" Ortiz
#9 Ricardo Arona
#10 Rameau "African Assassin" Sokoudjou
Rank totals updated as of UFC 77: Hostile Territory
2. This post of yours from October made me curious.
To me this match up looks just like Houston vs Sakara. Silva is way more technical. He likes to brawl though. Houston will give him that. ANOTHER ALL OUT WAR!!!
I got Houston tagging him though and knocking him out in 2 minutes but almost dies talking to Joe Rogan...
Post #3 10/4/07 6:15:45PM
Later you did change your pick to Silva before the fight. So that seems to me to imply you could possibly be the type of guy who gets all fired when somebody has a good showing or 2. It would explain the Caps, exclamation points, and hyperbole at least. If so, It's possible you will calm down later and change your mind about this declaration.So to me that means I got to make this bet while the irons hot. Balls in your court
Ladies and Gentlemen, this fight ends at just 1 minute and 33 seconds into the very first round........
Your winner....
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Post #26 11/20/07 4:27:45PM
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Posted by NatedawgThaM
Posted by hippysmacker
Posted by NatedawgThaM
NO IT'S NOT SETTLED!!!
He lost to somebody IMO is the next UFC LHW champ. Thiago is beast. He's a beast on the feet and a monster on the ground. He trains with Chutebox and they go all out so you know he has a great chin from getting toughened up there. Thiago is coming into his prime. He is the perfect mix of Wandy & Shogun.
He'd kill Machida, Jardine, and Chuck and Wandy(Doubt fight happens but he would). It's just he doesent have those quality wins yet. I hope he fights the winner of Machida/Soko and just destroys them so you guys can see how beastly he is.
As for the Houston Alexander. HE WAS TOP 10 and IMO IS STILL TOP 10. He'd freakin Kill Liddell. He'd kill Jardine a second time since those two are Stand up fighters. Wandy's chin is becoming weak from all them blows he takes. I think Houston could finsih him.
Ya'll need to get over the fact Liddell will never be champ again and needs to drop out your top 10. This guy runs through Jardine who many think deserves a title shot because he OBLITERATED Liddell. Houston is for real and it was just because he had a bad GAMEPLAN. This fight PROVED NOTHING. Except Thiago is the freakin future. Besides being his old going for the KO self Houston fell into the hype that he had no ground game and tried too hard to prove people wrong by taking it there or maybe he took it there because he knew he was going donw eventually. Who knows...
Houston is still Top 10 IMO and Liddell drops out. All 78 proved was Thiago belongs not only in the top 10 but real high. I see him running through the 205 division old school Wandy/Shogun style.
And you can quote me on that...
I just did and I will in the future. If Silva fights the winner, or loser of Soko/Machida ,I will bet you Av's for a month. Nothing lame or childish, but it's obvious you don't care for Liddell. I agree Jardine won that fight, but if you think that was obliteration ,what Wandy did to Rampage must beyond words for you. Jardine was never even close to finishing him. A decision victory that was an obliteration would be more along the lines of Fedor/Big NOG 1. How bout this. If Thiago fights Machida,Sokodjou, or Liddell and wins I will make him my Av for a month. If he loses you have to make yours Liddell. Let me know if your in, because you seem awful certain, and I'm even willing to give you 3 different fighters to chose from against your top 3 or 5 guy.
You see, whenever someone post their opinion so vehemently it makes me curious about the courage of their convictions. So I did a little investigating after my initial post .
1. While you did have Houston ranked #7 in your top 10, you did not have Thiago in their at all.
Rank Fighter
#1 Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
#2 Dan "Hollywood" Henderson
#3 Wanderlei "The Axe Murderer" Silva
#4 Keith "The Dean of Mean" Jardine
#5 Forrest Griffin
#6 Mauricio "Shogun" Rua
#7 Houston "The Assassin" Alexander
#8 Tito "Huntington Beach Bad Boy" Ortiz
#9 Ricardo Arona
#10 Rameau "African Assassin" Sokoudjou
Rank totals updated as of UFC 77: Hostile Territory
2. This post of yours from October made me curious.
To me this match up looks just like Houston vs Sakara. Silva is way more technical. He likes to brawl though. Houston will give him that. ANOTHER ALL OUT WAR!!!
I got Houston tagging him though and knocking him out in 2 minutes but almost dies talking to Joe Rogan...
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Later you did change your pick to Silva before the fight. So that seems to me to imply you could possibly be the type of guy who gets all fired when somebody has a good showing or 2. It would explain the Caps, exclamation points, and hyperbole at least. If so, It's possible you will calm down later and change your mind about this declaration.So to me that means I got to make this bet while the irons hot. Balls in your court
I made that post before I asked in the MMA Lounge were I could find a Thiago silva fight and then I saw a few and learned he was a BBJ black belt and he trains wit Chutebox so I chaned my mind to "Theres no way." I could have swore I threw Thiago at #10 but I guess I just did that in post were people were asking about the Top 10 and didn't change it.
I'll take the bet. If Thiago beats Soko, Liddell, Machida and I'll even add Forrest and Jardine if you want to since I'm REALLY confident Thiago can beat any of those, you make him your av. But if he loses to any of those fighters, you pick the Liddell pic and I'll put it in my avatar slot. Deal?
Yep, deal it is.as for the offer of extra fighters I will just take (Sokodjou, Machida , and Liddell) , but i appreciate the offer. I have seen a total of 6 Thiago fights and was very impressed with him. I just think you are jumping the gun early. Good to see somebody backing up their words though
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Post #27 11/20/07 5:09:52PM
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I've been watching the Silva vs Alexander fight over and over... And although I was extremely dissapointed at first in Houston for losing.... now that I think about it I think he still showed a lot of heart and also that he belongs in the UFC.
If you think about it.. Everyone has been questioning Alexander's ground game, Almost Everyone... He must of had a lot of pressure on his chest to prove that he has ground game... thats why if you look right after Silva threw a kick Alexander goes for the Takedown and get it..... but silva reverses and controls from than on...
I think Alexander game plan was changed simply because he felt like he had something to prove... He tried to get the BJJ black belt on the ground.. but things didn't go as planned.... Houston tried throwing Silva's weight to get a better position, but the undefeated BJJ ground game really showed...
Houston tried hangin on for as long as he could, but 9 to 10 unanswered punches made him unable to cling or hold any more... after that silva reigned down a few more punches and this fight was over....
IMO if houston hadn't had the mindset that he needed to prove something.... than he could've kept this fight standing up.. and quite possible could've one this fight...
Thiago Silva isn't a no body.. he trains out of one of the best training camps from Brazil.... And I think that houston Has a great chance of winning, if these two get a rematch...
at the end of the fight you can tell Houston was pissed..... they said he got knocked unconcious but it must have been for a short period of time, because he got his ass right back up.. and now you hear about him being back in the gym to training....
I say good try Houston..... You got a lot of Heart... keep training ground.... And come back and submit that BJJ fighter to prove everybody wrong....
You may have lost some fans who are really haters... but your real fans... will back u up till the end... We just wanna see you make a comeback!
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Post #28 11/23/07 4:15:10PM
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Posted by hippysmacker
Well thats settled
Well i guess lightning can strike twice.
Oh wait i just got a idea for a motivational poster
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Post #29 11/23/07 6:04:08PM
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Posted by NatedawgThaM
NO IT'S NOT SETTLED!!!
He lost to somebody IMO is the next UFC LHW champ. Thiago is beast. He's a beast on the feet and a monster on the ground. He trains with Chutebox and they go all out so you know he has a great chin from getting toughened up there. Thiago is coming into his prime. He is the perfect mix of Wandy & Shogun.
He'd kill Machida, Jardine, and Chuck and Wandy(Doubt fight happens but he would). It's just he doesent have those quality wins yet. I hope he fights the winner of Machida/Soko and just destroys them so you guys can see how beastly he is.
As for the Houston Alexander. HE WAS TOP 10 and IMO IS STILL TOP 10. He'd freakin Kill Liddell. He'd kill Jardine a second time since those two are Stand up fighters. Wandy's chin is becoming weak from all them blows he takes. I think Houston could finsih him.
Ya'll need to get over the fact Liddell will never be champ again and needs to drop out your top 10. This guy runs through Jardine who many think deserves a title shot because he OBLITERATED Liddell. Houston is for real and it was just because he had a bad GAMEPLAN. This fight PROVED NOTHING. Except Thiago is the freakin future. Besides being his old going for the KO self Houston fell into the hype that he had no ground game and tried too hard to prove people wrong by taking it there or maybe he took it there because he knew he was going donw eventually. Who knows...
Houston is still Top 10 IMO and Liddell drops out. All 78 proved was Thiago belongs not only in the top 10 but real high. I see him running through the 205 division old school Wandy/Shogun style.
And you can quote me on that...
I like Silva but it's comments like this that cause me to cheer against guys. Why do you think he would kill any of those guys? Also what gives you any sort of notion that Wand's chin is becoming weak? It's not like he was one punch KO'd against Cro Cop or Hendo. Those were wars, sure Cro Cop ended it in round one but be realistic that was when nothing on earth was stopping him from winning the OWGP, and theres no way in hell Thiago hits as hard as Cro Cop, and as for Hendo, he's got dynamite in his hands and that was accumulated damage. Now I agree that Thiago is a great fighter, but you've clearly only seen his fight against houston, excluding maybe a few on youtube. He's impressive yes but he likes to stand and bang to much guys like Soko with big power could easily put him away, and houston could have put him away had they just stood and traded.
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