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we should have a Q&A with rampage to discuss his tatoo.
Who knows maybe he just wanted a tatoo of a black panther b/c it looks cool.
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Post #16 10/20/07 12:35:03PM
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Sir_Karl
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I agree with Irish209.
Race pride is ignorant in my eyes...but we must have consistency.
If you point fingers at Costa than then point them at Rampage as well.
White Pride/Black Pride...same thing.
Hypocrisy and lack of integrity and consistency...pure and simple.
Example...feminism.
Can I start a movement called masculism?
LMAO......yeah right.
The word doesn't even exist.
Black Pride is good and white pride is bad?
In my eyes they are both bad....I used to say "human pride"...but with the state of the world today....I am not proud to be a human.
Freedom of speech remember?
Costa is the one who has to face the critics and the fans....LET HIM WORRY ABOUT IT.
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Post #17 10/20/07 3:31:49PM
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titorican
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I could be completely wrong but the name Melvin Costa doesn't sound all that purely 'white' to me. Melvin is possibly supporting a group that hates him!
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Post #18 10/20/07 4:24:13PM
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Sam_Rothstein
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that is the tattoo people are talking about on rampage
that dinky little panther?? thats supposed to be a black panther as in the movement? Ive seen white people with that tattoo before
maybe i should tell them that it means black panther.
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Post #19 10/20/07 5:41:23PM
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Posted by Sam_Rothstein
that is the tattoo people are talking about on rampage
that dinky little panther?? thats supposed to be a black panther as in the movement? Ive seen white people with that tattoo before
maybe i should tell them that it means black panther.
I agree. Rampage's tat has nothing to do with The Blank Panther Movement. I know a couple of white guys with that tat.
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Post #20 10/20/07 6:11:24PM
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moob
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Posted by Sir_Karl
I agree with Irish209.
Race pride is ignorant in my eyes...but we must have consistency.
If you point fingers at Costa than then point them at Rampage as well.
White Pride/Black Pride...same thing.
Hypocrisy and lack of integrity and consistency...pure and simple.
Example...feminism.
Can I start a movement called masculism?
LMAO......yeah right.
The word doesn't even exist.
Black Pride is good and white pride is bad?
In my eyes they are both bad....I used to say "human pride"...but with the state of the world today....I am not proud to be a human.
Freedom of speech remember?
Costa is the one who has to face the critics and the fans....LET HIM WORRY ABOUT IT.
Perhaps you need to read through the thread. Rampage's tattoo is not representative of the Black Panther Party, Costa's is clearly representative of the Nazi Party.
Therefore no one needs to point a finger at Rampage. Engage your brain before posting next time.
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Post #21 10/21/07 9:05:15AM
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XblacksheepX
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First of all, i'd say it was right to interview that idiot and ask for his reasons. I would like to see that with more fighters to know, what they are about.
What this white power racist is saying though, is complete bullshit. But what makes me more uncomfortable is that a lot of people don't seem to get it.
The eagle swastika is without a doubt nothing else than the symbol of german nationalsocialism, that caused WW II and the industrial extinction of 6 million jewish people. It's racist and antisemitic discrimination, prosecution and killing for self purpose is unique in human history. Costa knew that when he got tatooed with it for sure. Comparing all that to resistance movements of opressed minorities struggeling for equal rights in a society is RIDICULOUS!!!
Malcom X is the new Adolf Hitler, or what?
What's the point being proud of the colour of damn skin by the way? Your "race" is nothing else but coincidence when you pop out of your mothers vagina and say hi to the world whatever you look like. You could be proud of doing something or working for a goal, you finally achieve or something.. But what is your ****** contribution of being white, brown, yellow or whatever? And also, if you think your "race" is the best there is, you simultaneously say others are worse. There is no ****** race but the human race. That he got beaten up by racists when he grew up doesn't makes it any better that he became one himself. And if you do just a little research on the white power movement, it won't take long to find, that its organisations are extremely right wing, racist, anti-jewish and dangerous for democracy while glorifing nazi germany. those guys just wait for the clash of the races and want to prepare themself for it, because they are afraid that maybe someday nobody gives a ******* shit about what colour the skin is.
I bet my ass that this idiot was a true nazi that now just tries to become mainstream. Let's hope that will never happen!
Why you didn't ask him about his purity of blood, if he got cut and his mexican opponent mixes their blood while kicking his racist ass? Will his blood be no more pure? Will the white race die out because of it?
There should be no place for that kind of idiots in this sport!!!
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Post #22 10/22/07 11:41:45PM
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moob
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Posted by XblacksheepX
First of all, i'd say it was right to interview that idiot and ask for his reasons. I would like to see that with more fighters to know, what they are about.
What this white power racist is saying though, is complete bullshit. But what makes me more uncomfortable is that a lot of people don't seem to get it.
The eagle swastika is without a doubt nothing else than the symbol of german nationalsocialism, that caused WW II and the industrial extinction of 6 million jewish people. It's racist and antisemitic discrimination, prosecution and killing for self purpose is unique in human history. Costa knew that when he got tatooed with it for sure. Comparing all that to resistance movements of opressed minorities struggeling for equal rights in a society is RIDICULOUS!!!
Malcom X is the new Adolf Hitler, or what?
What's the point being proud of the colour of damn skin by the way? Your "race" is nothing else but coincidence when you pop out of your mothers vagina and say hi to the world whatever you look like. You could be proud of doing something or working for a goal, you finally achieve or something.. But what is your ****** contribution of being white, brown, yellow or whatever? And also, if you think your "race" is the best there is, you simultaneously say others are worse. There is no ****** race but the human race. That he got beaten up by racists when he grew up doesn't makes it any better that he became one himself. And if you do just a little research on the white power movement, it won't take long to find, that its organisations are extremely right wing, racist, anti-jewish and dangerous for democracy while glorifing nazi germany. those guys just wait for the clash of the races and want to prepare themself for it, because they are afraid that maybe someday nobody gives a ******* shit about what colour the skin is.
I bet my ass that this idiot was a true nazi that now just tries to become mainstream. Let's hope that will never happen!
Why you didn't ask him about his purity of blood, if he got cut and his mexican opponent mixes their blood while kicking his racist ass? Will his blood be no more pure? Will the white race die out because of it?
There should be no place for that kind of idiots in this sport!!!
Great post. Perhaps this lays it on the line for the ignorant.
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Post #23 10/23/07 1:07:21PM
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Posted by Sam_Rothstein
that is the tattoo people are talking about on rampage
that dinky little panther?? thats supposed to be a black panther as in the movement? Ive seen white people with that tattoo before
maybe i should tell them that it means black panther.
Jason Williams (basketball player) has almost that exact tattoo. And he is white. I agree with the statement that it is a tattoo OF a black panther. Not FOR the black panthers.
So, enough with the reverse racism garbage. Costa is a lump of shit, Rampage has a cat on his arm for life, but thats where the story ends... Isn't that enough punishment for him?
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Post #24 10/23/07 3:36:54PM
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Sir_Karl
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Posted by titorican
I could be completely wrong but the name Melvin Costa doesn't sound all that purely 'white' to me. Melvin is possibly supporting a group that hates him!
Correct...I have Costa blood in me. Costa is either Sicilian, Spanish or ironically enough...Jewish.
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Post #25 10/23/07 8:02:26PM
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Sir_Karl
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Posted by moob
Posted by Sir_Karl
I agree with Irish209.
Race pride is ignorant in my eyes...but we must have consistency.
If you point fingers at Costa than then point them at Rampage as well.
White Pride/Black Pride...same thing.
Hypocrisy and lack of integrity and consistency...pure and simple.
Example...feminism.
Can I start a movement called masculism?
LMAO......yeah right.
The word doesn't even exist.
Black Pride is good and white pride is bad?
In my eyes they are both bad....I used to say "human pride"...but with the state of the world today....I am not proud to be a human.
Freedom of speech remember?
Costa is the one who has to face the critics and the fans....LET HIM WORRY ABOUT IT.
Perhaps you need to read through the thread. Rampage's tattoo is not representative of the Black Panther Party, Costa's is clearly representative of the Nazi Party.
Therefore no one needs to point a finger at Rampage. Engage your brain before posting next time.
Regardless of weather I read the thread or not, your response shows what kind of person you are...engage MY brain...lmao.
Last edited 10/23/07 8:44PM by Sir_Karl
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Post #26 10/23/07 8:11:31PM
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moob
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Posted by Sir_Karl
Posted by moob
Posted by Sir_Karl
I agree with Irish209.
Race pride is ignorant in my eyes...but we must have consistency.
If you point fingers at Costa than then point them at Rampage as well.
White Pride/Black Pride...same thing.
Hypocrisy and lack of integrity and consistency...pure and simple.
Example...feminism.
Can I start a movement called masculism?
LMAO......yeah right.
The word doesn't even exist.
Black Pride is good and white pride is bad?
In my eyes they are both bad....I used to say "human pride"...but with the state of the world today....I am not proud to be a human.
Freedom of speech remember?
Costa is the one who has to face the critics and the fans....LET HIM WORRY ABOUT IT.
Perhaps you need to read through the thread. Rampage's tattoo is not representative of the Black Panther Party, Costa's is clearly representative of the Nazi Party.
Therefore no one needs to point a finger at Rampage. Engage your brain before posting next time.
Regardless of weather I read the thread or not, your response shows what kind of person you are...engage MY brain...lmao.
Your reply has no merit, that's the point I'm getting across in the context of the thread.
Ex: "Black Pride is good and white pride is bad?" has absolutely no relevance here, as the subject of Black Pride was never under discussion.
If I've misinterpreted your post, perhaps you can explain it further?
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Post #27 10/24/07 10:59:15AM
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Sir_Karl
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To placate someones ego I will admit I didn't read the article...I didn't need to.
I have known Rampages views for years on his tattoo....he has explained it a few times in the past 5 years. As for Costa I seriously doubt his swastika is paying to homage to some ancient Sanskrit ancestry. They both deny any racial or pride meanings to the ink. That is the reason I say point fingers at both.
Let me make this clear as well...I am not comparing the black power movement of the 60s to the white pride movement. Black power was birthed out of oppression and sought equality, while the Nazi ideology promoted racial superiority and used oppression against those deemed inferior. Huge difference obviously.
My point is some groups are allowed more transgressions than others against other races, nationalities and ethnicities.
Rampage could kiss his muscles and scream black superiority...and it would never be looked at the same as a swastika.
Look at what has happened to Micheal Richards, Don Imus and Mel Gibson,
while my all time favorite comedians D.L. Hughley, Richard Pryor, Jamie Foxx, Martin Lawrence and Eddie Murphy make or made a living making fun of whites.
We are portrayed as nerdy, waddling, aloof geeks....that's casual to society...but look what happens when you make a comment about a black or jew.
The swastika surely is offensive to me, as is the Christian cross, the Star of David, the Republican Elephant and the Democrat donkey. Evil is in the eye of the beholder.
Ask a Palestinian what he thinks of the Star of David? How many millions were killed by Christians during the crusades, inquisitions and witch trials? How many millions have died as a result of American foreign policy?
Our allowances and tolerances for racism should be consistent across the board...currently it's not...and it's obvious to those of us who can see through the BS.
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Post #28 10/24/07 12:02:20PM
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rockernhb
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Melvin Costa's interview wasn't very offensive as far as I'm concerned. He may have ideas that everyone doesn't agree with, but at least he wasn't filling space with racist slurs and white power mumbo jumbo.
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Post #29 10/24/07 4:40:58PM
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XblacksheepX
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Posted by Sir_Karl
To placate someones ego I will admit I didn't read the article...I didn't need to.
I have known Rampages views for years on his tattoo....he has explained it a few times in the past 5 years.
I didn't. What are they like?
Posted by Sir_Karl
As for Costa I seriously doubt his swastika is paying to homage to some ancient Sanskrit ancestry. They both deny any racial or pride meanings to the ink.
Not true. Read the article!
Posted by Sir_Karl
That is the reason I say point fingers at both.
Let me make this clear as well...I am not comparing the black power movement of the 60s to the white pride movement.
That's exactly what you are doing a few lines down!
Posted by Sir_Karl
My point is some groups are allowed more transgressions than others against other races, nationalities and ethnicities.
Rampage could kiss his muscles and scream black superiority...and it would never be looked at the same as a swastika.
Cause it wouldn't be the same. Rampage wouldn't do it i guess. I remember him makin fun of blacks all day long by the way..
Posted by Sir_Karl
Look at what has happened to Micheal Richards, Don Imus and Mel Gibson,
while my all time favorite comedians D.L. Hughley, Richard Pryor, Jamie Foxx, Martin Lawrence and Eddie Murphy make or made a living making fun of whites.
We are portrayed as nerdy, waddling, aloof geeks....that's casual to society...but look what happens when you make a comment about a black or jew.
The swastika surely is offensive to me, as is the Christian cross, the Star of David, the Republican Elephant and the Democrat donkey. Evil is in the eye of the beholder.
Ask a Palestinian what he thinks of the Star of David? How many millions were killed by Christians during the crusades, inquisitions and witch trials? How many millions have died as a result of American foreign policy?
See? You are not only comparing completely different things, you even say it's symbols are offensive in the same way. You just don't get it.
I know comedians making fun of blacks, jews or gay people and actually it is fun because it's for everyone to see not seriously meant and in a sarcastic way playing their part in societies reality. Taking a joke or being oppressed is AGAIN something completely different. I don't see any joke in that idiot's interview..
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