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SUUUUUUUUGAR
Career record: 140-79
Season: 44-26 (#1565)
Location: Paradise City, Gatineau, Québec
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like who the hell is this guy, come on. His only weapon is the stand up (not including the clinch, as his teams is always screaming in the background NO KNEES NO KNEES!!!) and somehow now in his fights theres this no choking rule. Kimbo's a cheap street fighter although powerfull, I still couldnt make out any skill in his striking game. Bringing this guy into any mma circle is an insult to all of those real fighters, I think. Now i know i can't be the only one feeling like this...
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Post #1 10/9/07 2:49:38PM
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pv3Hpv3p
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 197-141
Season: 37-33 (#2654)
Location: East St. Paul, MN
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From what I've heard the guy trains his ass off, at least that's what Bas was saying on some radio show when Kimbo was training with the IFL's Anacondas... I think the reason that the don't knee / choke on his internet fights is because they are a modified boxing rules match... The don't normally fight on the ground, etc... Anyhow the same reason that they don't knee and choke in a boxing match... He actually seems like a really nice guy in interviews, and like mentioned he works hard... Why not give him a shot? Everyone has to come up some way, if that was his so be it... I'd say judge what he does in MMA fights, after all he did win his 1st fight by sub 
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Post #2 10/9/07 5:30:16PM
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Scott_Revels
Banned
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Career record: 155-66
Season: 24-8 (#4641)
Location: Losing Location Bets to MFOTHER, lol.
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Looks like you are. I think that if a guy chooses to fight, let him fight. He's doing better than Shannon "The Cannon" Ritch, who has to be one of the worse fighters in the world of MMA. If Ritch can continue to fight, then why not let Kimbo fight? If they can let Richard Dalton fight, and just spend three rounds pushing Daniel Puder against the cage with no action, then Kimbo who is an action packed fighter can fight. He's made a name for himself, and if he's as bad as you say, then he'll lose. Still if he wants to fight, let him.
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Post #3 10/9/07 5:36:37PM
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Mastodon2
MMA Sensei
Career record: 183-108
Season: 32-23 (#4471)
Location: Newcastle England
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I will admit I have no respect for him as a street fighter, the people he fought were all out of shape bums, even just by looking at them you could tell they wern't real competition, and yes, he did get schooled by Gannon a bit (though Gannon's face got messed up, he was still able to fight at the end, Kimbo wasnt) but as an MMA fighter I have respect for him. If Bas says he trains his ass off, then we have it on good authority he is a hard worker. He looks like he doesn't just want to rely on his hands since they might work against unskilled opponents on the street, but against other skilled strikers in a cage its a different story.
While we don't really know yet how good he will be, his first win was promising, the fact he won by guillotine choke kind of dismisses the criticism that all he has is heavy hands.
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Post #4 10/9/07 6:40:06PM
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puppetmaster837
Standup Guy
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Season: 14-8 (#5840)
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I think winning by guillotine was a big thing. It showed that he isn't just training in boxing and is learning mma. It also shows that even though everyone wanted to see him get a highlight reel knockout he is fighting to win, and is smart enough to do it.
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Post #5 10/9/07 6:50:57PM
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SUUUUUUUUGAR
Career record: 140-79
Season: 44-26 (#1565)
Location: Paradise City, Gatineau, Québec
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Well then, i must apologize for hatin' on Kimbo and well sorry to all his fans on here i guess... I hope i'm wrong, see where he ends up. Just can't really respect the fact that he had to do drugs b4 every one of his street fights so he couldnt feel shit when he got hit... apart from that
Last edited 10/9/07 10:55PM by D0wnUnd6e6r
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Post #6 10/9/07 10:46:33PM
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DNor
MMA Regular
Career record: 40-38
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Texas
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Come on, whats with all this Kimbo hating recently?? lol
Everybody has to come from somewhere? MMA Fighters do not always have BJJ experience since they were 4 years old, or Muay Thai since age 6.....
People CAN start as plain raw talent in MMA, and from there develop their skills... I dont see anything wrong with that.
The hype and whatever could be a bit subued IMO.. either way he's a former bodyguard and streetfighter.... how could he not get into the temptation of transitioning into MMA?
That and of course the money + fame is always an influence on your decisions.
Good luck Kimbo.
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Post #7 10/10/07 5:16:50PM
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pv3Hpv3p
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 197-141
Season: 37-33 (#2654)
Location: East St. Paul, MN
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Posted by D0wnUnd6e6r
Well then, i must apologize for hatin' on Kimbo and well sorry to all his fans on here i guess... I hope i'm wrong, see where he ends up. Just can't really respect the fact that he had to do drugs b4 every one of his street fights so he couldnt feel shit when he got hit... apart from that
Where'd you hear that? Althoug I don't really doubt it's true, but wouldn't put it past the guys he was fighting either... There's really no control when some gangstas start scrappin in someone's back yard or whatever...
Not really a fan, just open to giving him a chance... sorry if we didn't all hop on the bandwagon and start hatin
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Post #8 10/10/07 6:30:50PM
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Djbb
Standup Guy
Career record: 24-23
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Center Barnstead, NH
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Who the **** is Kimbo? You mean the black Hulk Hogan? Dude looks like a ******' clown with that horseshoe haircut and Mr. T beard he has going on. I ain't even fighter bashing cause in my book, all hes done is knock out some overweight dudes in playground fights. Man, this forum can't go 20 mins without the latest update on Kimbo, dudes a ******' joke and I hope hes serious about MMA so I can watch him get his ass beat at UFC 85 or something.
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Post #9 10/12/07 3:17:00AM
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bayonetxwork
In Full Mount
Career record: 94-54
Season: 5-2 (#7908)
Location: Baltimore, Maryland
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Posted by D0wnUnd6e6r
like who the hell is this guy, come on. His only weapon is the stand up (not including the clinch, as his teams is always screaming in the background NO KNEES NO KNEES!!!) and somehow now in his fights theres this no choking rule. Kimbo's a cheap street fighter although powerfull, I still couldnt make out any skill in his striking game. Bringing this guy into any mma circle is an insult to all of those real fighters, I think. Now i know i can't be the only one feeling like this...
That is so ignorant its ridiculous. He's been training like crazy the past couple years to get ready for the mma world. His boxing is decent, although no credit should be given due to him beating up chumps on the street. Regardless, Bas even vouched that he's ready to surprise a lot of people with his skills.
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Post #10 10/13/07 5:11:25PM
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Lay_N_Pray
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Career record: 160-85
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He actually seems to be like a nice guy from interviews I have seen with him and he also does work very hard. However, I do not care for him as a fighter.
He is beyond one dimensional at this point and he would be crushed by any true MMA heavyweight. I would love to see him fight someone like Carmello Marrero and see what happens.
I also think he would lose a stand up battle with good stand-up MMA heavweights. I know he beat Mercer, but he is beyond old and Kimbo took him down anyways. Put him in there with Buentello and Kimbo gets KO'd.
But as a person, he seems alright.
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Post #11 10/14/07 6:10:59PM
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warglory
MMA Sensei
Career record: 169-115
Season: 31-27 (#2819)
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Posted by Lay_N_Pray
He actually seems to be like a nice guy from interviews I have seen with him and he also does work very hard. However, I do not care for him as a fighter.
He is beyond one dimensional at this point and he would be crushed by any true MMA heavyweight. I would love to see him fight someone like Carmello Marrero and see what happens.
I also think he would lose a stand up battle with good stand-up MMA heavweights. I know he beat Mercer, but he is beyond old and Kimbo took him down anyways. Put him in there with Buentello and Kimbo gets KO'd.
But as a person, he seems alright.
What makes you so sure? Does Carmello train with Bas?
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Post #12 10/14/07 11:10:17PM
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Stickan
the HAWT one!
Career record: 185-92
Season: 8-3 (#6957)
Location: Sweden
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If Bas Rutten says this guy is a specimen, that he's training like mad man and that he's commited to MMA, who am I to say that this guy is a chump?
I've been against him for as long as I can remember but really I've seen nothing that leads me to believe he CAN'T have success in MMA.
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Post #13 10/14/07 11:27:44PM
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Lay_N_Pray
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No, I dont think Marrero trains with Bas. I say he can beat Kimbo because Marrero is very good on the ground so I think he would shoot and take Kimbo down and finish the fight with an armbar.
No disrespect to Kimbo, I think he trains his ass off and really cares about the sport, but are we all ready to say his name in the same breath as Buentello and Marrero just because he trains with Bas?
I know I am not...he beat some street fighters and one MMA match against a guy with no previous MMA experience. So maybe he will grow and get better, but dont disrespect Marrero and Buentello by saying he is at their level.
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Post #14 10/15/07 1:41:18PM
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warglory
MMA Sensei
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Posted by Lay_N_Pray
No, I dont think Marrero trains with Bas. I say he can beat Kimbo because Marrero is very good on the ground so I think he would shoot and take Kimbo down and finish the fight with an armbar.
No disrespect to Kimbo, I think he trains his ass off and really cares about the sport, but are we all ready to say his name in the same breath as Buentello and Marrero just because he trains with Bas?
I know I am not...he beat some street fighters and one MMA match against a guy with no previous MMA experience. So maybe he will grow and get better, but dont disrespect Marrero and Buentello by saying he is at their level.
You are absolutely correct, Kimbo should receive credit where credit is due, and as you said, he has only fought once against an aging boxer. However, since we haven't seen the breadth of his skills yet, I don't think it's fair to say that either of the competitors you mentioned would beat Kimbo. If this was Kimbo a year ago we were discussing, I'd say that Sean Salmon could beat Kimbo, however now, with his training regimen through Bas, I honestly don't know what to think until I see him fight again.
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Post #15 10/15/07 1:52:22PM
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