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Point is he was kicked in balls twice within minutes. Then seconds later his heel catching his cup. I am certain he was in major pain.down in that area already. Way John jumped in. It seemed as if he.was dqing Green. Either way. John fd up and Greene made me laugh when.he said "I never kick anyone low". UMMM Smart guy you just kicked a guy down low 3 times in one round..Congrats!!

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Even good referees make bad calls, thats why we need instant replay!

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Posted by JoeWarren33

Point is he was kicked in balls twice within minutes. Then seconds later his heel catching his cup. I am certain he was in major pain.down in that area already. Way John jumped in. It seemed as if he.was dqing Green. Either way. John fd up and Greene made me laugh when.he said "I never kick anyone low". UMMM Smart guy you just kicked a guy down low 3 times in one round..Congrats!!



He wasn't in too much pain to jump to his feet in protest when he found out he wasn't getting the DQ win.

What was Big John supposed to do, he saw the kick as legal and Krause was laying on the mat not moving in anyway.


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Even good referees make bad calls, thats why we need instant replay!



Even after seeing the replay Big John maintained it was a legal strike to the belt line, not a low blow.

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IMHO Big John should've given Krause the benefit of the doubt after already taking two flush shots to the cup rather than being so quick to DQ him. I think the fight should've continued.

Horrible call.

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Posted by FlashyG

Even after seeing the replay Big John maintained it was a legal strike to the belt line, not a low blow.



I mean even good referees make bad calls after watching an instant replay clearly showing Greens heel hitting James cup?


Note: I am not actually watching the fights

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Posted by Webbie

IMHO Big John should've given Krause the benefit of the doubt after already taking two flush shots to the cup rather than being so quick to DQ him. I think the fight should've continued.

Horrible call.



Krause wasn't DQ'ed. It was ruled a knockout win for Green because Krause stayed down from the shot.

I also don't think Big John could let the fight continue because he had already taken a pt from Green for the same offence.

His options at that point were to DQ Green or rule the fight a knockout in his favor.

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Posted by Webbie

IMHO Big John should've given Krause the benefit of the doubt after already taking two flush shots to the cup rather than being so quick to DQ him. I think the fight should've continued.

Horrible call.


he didnt dq him called tko cause he was fakeing a low blow and it backfired for him

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krause flopped. he should have lost on the fact alone

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Like flashy g said before. The tell was Krause getting up in protest straight away... If he was in that much pain he wouldn't be able to do that. I think the kick was ok, but after getting hit their twice Krause could be mistaken or sensitive in getting a shot even near the area.

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Posted by aussiemma

Like flashy g said before. The tell was Krause getting up in protest straight away... If he was in that much pain he wouldn't be able to do that. I think the kick was ok, but after getting hit their twice Krause could be mistaken or sensitive in getting a shot even near the area.



He didnt stay down when he got kicked flush before twice, so why would he stay down for the 3rd?

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Posted by FlashyG


Posted by Webbie

IMHO Big John should've given Krause the benefit of the doubt after already taking two flush shots to the cup rather than being so quick to DQ him. I think the fight should've continued.

Horrible call.



Krause wasn't DQ'ed. It was ruled a knockout win for Green because Krause stayed down from the shot.

I also don't think Big John could let the fight continue because he had already taken a pt from Green for the same offence.

His options at that point were to DQ Green or rule the fight a knockout in his favor.



My bad. I forgot Green was given the TKO. That's beside the point, though. If it's a rule that he couldn't allow the fight to continue than it's just a bad rule IMO.

Like you said though, Krause probably acted more hurt than he was, and if that's the case he paid for it. I've just been in those situations sparring with people where your partner doesn't even seem to try to aim their kicks and you end up getting kicked in the balls a lot for it. From then on every kick you see coming you expect it to tag the bag. It's frustrating as hell.

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Posted by aussiemma

I think the kick was ok, but after getting hit their twice Krause could be mistaken or sensitive in getting a shot even near the area.



I agree with this as well. If you take two flush shots to the gonads that area's gonna be tender like Rogan pointed out. Plus, like I just said, after you eat a couple of those you start expecting them to keep coming, and it does have an effect on your performance because you start thinking about it too much.

I feel Krause should've been allowed to continue, but I do agree he probably acted a bit. It's a very frustrating situation for Krause, though.

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Posted by aussiemma

Like flashy g said before. The tell was Krause getting up in protest straight away... If he was in that much pain he wouldn't be able to do that. I think the kick was ok, but after getting hit their twice Krause could be mistaken or sensitive in getting a shot even near the area.



fakeing it

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That was a great fight.

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