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bullshit on the Semtex decision, sure he shouldn't have done what he did, but that was a sucker punch at best, nothing serious, he obviously didn't hurt Koscheck...look at what Nate Diaz was doing on the Strikeforce card, kicking Mayhem in the stomach multiple times when he was on the ground...and I'm a Nate Diaz fan, but Dana is just being completely hypocritical here. Daley made a mistake, but to "exile" him from the UFC and never let him fight again because of one mistake is tragic, imo.

Let's also not forget Junie Browning jumping into the octagon and other antics all over TUF and Dana gives the kid multiple fights in the UFC. IMO, Dana is just trying to act like a tough guy here. Not justifying what Daley did, he was wrong but sometimes in the heat of the moment things happen. Plus look how many other fighters have held chokeholds too long or done excessive damage w/ arm or leg locks...they are given suspensions and fines at best.



ehhh if you think sucker punching someone is not serious, especially as a professional fighter, you're mistaken. Assault is a pretty serious crime, and once the fight is over, that's what it is - assault.



thats what i said last night. I don't know what the laws are there but if the fight was in the States he would have been handcuffed and escorted to the nearest County jail. I liked Daley and the style he brought to the game, but if your going to lose your cool over a few choice words then you need to get the hell out and take your ass back to the UK. Great decision by Dana White. It's **** like this and fighters like Daley who give the sport a bad name.

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Lets face it. Kimbo isn't that good. C-level fighter. If you want to see unskilled muscle men hit each other in the face with no skill, go watch a tough man competition.,

Good luck to Kimbo! Now lets get some substance on the main card!

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Post #33   5/9/10 3:44:45PM   

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I can understand Daley being frustrated but that was uncalled for and like Babalu its a suitable punishment. As for Kimbo, the hype never met up with the skills so its time to move on. The good thing for both guys is, Strikeforce will most likely sign them and put them in a mach ASAP.

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Lets call it "The Phantom Knee" lol

Kos was selling it big time

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I love the fact that Koschecks head doesn't even move a little as the knee comes by his head. I don't know how he can say with a straight face that he was actually struck by that knee.

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Posted by xdanish020
laugh all you want but what really do you have to argue against? lol



The fact that Daley assaulted Koscheck, which is ILLEGAL, in front of millions of viewers. Why should he be spared, people get thrown in jail for stuff like that.

EDIT: I didn't even know what you said earlier had to go back and read. I'm still at the fact you think you're smarter then somebody because of a rank... on a fantasy mma site.

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Both Cuts are completely justified. Kimbo simply isn't nor will he ever be a world class fighter. I said that before he ever came on TUF.

Kos and Daley are both classless individuals. Kos sold the knee against Daley just like he sold it against Anthony Johnson. It's actually comically ironic.

But as much as I dislike both guys there was no reason for that late punch. He absolutely should be cut and he'll be lucky if he isn't charged with a crime.

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I going to make this clear now because of how much I had to clean up in this topic and the amount of warnings/bans I have had to hand out.

Do not fighter bash or engage in trading insult with other members. Keep it on topic and respectful.

Now for the people accusing KOS of faking we have no idea what he was complaining about. He said after the fight Daley had eye gouged him twice during the fight and that might have been what he was complaining about and not the knee. I'm going to take KOS's word over the guy that tried to sucker punch him after the fight. Knee landed or not something was wrong with KOS's eye. Fact is Daley tried to knee KOS in the head while he was down. Daley didn't loss a point for it and had the fight started back on the feet. That being the only place Daley stood a chance of winning the fight.

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I would like to apologize to the moderators and the site. I bashed Paul Daley last night and while I don't feel any differently today than I did yesterday, I should know the rules.

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Posted by telnights

I going to make this clear now because of how much I had to clean up in this topic and the amount of warnings/bans I have had to hand out.

Do not fighter bash or engage in trading insult with other members. Keep it on topic and respectful.

Now for the people accusing KOS of faking we have no idea what he was complaining about. He said after the fight Daley had eye gouged him twice during the fight and that might have been what he was complaining about and not the knee. I'm going to take KOS's word over the guy that tried to sucker punch him after the fight. Knee landed or not something was wrong with KOS's eye. Fact is Daley tried to knee KOS in the head while he was down. Daley didn't loss a point for it and had the fight started back on the feet. That being the only place Daley stood a chance of winning the fight.



I'm surprise that this even has to be mentioned. It's not like the "no fighter bashing" rule is new here.

THINK, people. Use tact. Jeez.

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It's really hard when someone does something like that. I hold people to the same standards that I hold myself. I personally would never do anything like that. But, hey, different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

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my two cents.

I don't know what the law is but I work at a bar and I see fights all the time, about 1% of the scraps end with arrests the rest end with a break, someone getting kicked out, and a good 40% of the bigger fights the police are called in. So is it assault, technically, but in the real world this would barely be investigated, based on what I've seen

second of all. is it really that embarassing? how about hockey where two guys will pound on each other and the ref doesn't get in until the someone gets dropped? hey atleast mirogliatta stepped in after 1. and while we r on the strikeforce discussion, lets talk about baseball how many times do u see a one on one fight in baseball? the benches always clear and its pure gang mayhem. granted there is no stomping of the source. so how about we look at this objectively, what is worse? what is truly more gruesome and embarassing to a sport.

there is an obvious double standard imo. I've probably posted this about 10 times but what do u think did more damage? daley's left hook, or the repeated shots rampage gave wanderlei at ufc 92? is daley's actions excuseable? no. was rampage's? no. but he got knockout of the night. We saw it with sobral he got cut meanwhile how long did bj hold onto pulver's neck??

look he should have been suspended. I think a 1 year suspension would have sufficed, lifetime ban or whatever u call it is too much, other fighters would get the point. maybe. if there was any kind of consistency. I'm curious to findout what koscheck was saying though.

o and the knee. why does koscheck grab the other side of his face? even rogan and goldberg agreed he was faking it

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I agree that he was faking... I was at the fight, cage side and it was ridiculous,..They showed the replay 100 times on al the big screens in the Bell Center, if anything the knee touched his hair. The 18000 people there were way more mad about KOS then Daley. I think it was more embarassing for KOS to be rolling around like that and having the doctors check him out, trying to get Daley disqualified or a point taken away, knowing that the knee didn't hit him. How can anyone argue that it didn't hit him? He would have been out cold if it did, or unable to continue, and he has done this before with Johnson. That being said i dont agree with what Daley did, it was totally uncalled for, and it was the worst career move in history. I think that it was right to cut Kimbo, he tried but isnt going to improve. All in all i had a wicked time at the fights, a bad night for Canadians but some great fighs...I am so happy Shogun smashed Machida,...I was there last year when Shogun KOed Chuck, now Machida. It was worth the 12 hours of driving!!!!

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People who are saying the knee didn't kit Kos are really showing their lack of MMA knowledge. Don't you know the worst elbows are the ones that just graze you? Those are the ones that do the most damage. I totally believe he was hit from his reaction. There is no way he would fake it and risk Daley jumping on him and finishing the fight. Get real folks!

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