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Stephan Bonnar, Dave Herman Fail UFC 153 Drug Tests, Await Potential Suspensions

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Sucks that Bonnar did that. Lost a bit of respect for a dude I had a lot of respect for. He's been such a fan favorite in this sport, it just sucks that he disrespects the sport so much to cheat.



I'm not around everyone but I have been around alot here in PA and i'd say somewhere around 90% of the fighters I know are on it or have been on it. No big names. Its part of the sport and if someone came out with hard evedince saying 100% are I wouldn't be shocked. Training takes so much out of you alot of the times you have no other options if you want to fight. That leads to guys just doing it cause everyone else is.



I respectfully disagree. I dont think its part of the sport. Clearly not everyone needs it, because they would get caught. I think its stupid to try and cheat the system.



When a fighter gets the science of cycling on and off down there is currently no way of catching them. I really don't think its cheating either. I know its against the rules but its a stupid rule. They are used to help aid in training you still need to train. They will not help you protect your face or keep you out of a sub. They simply help you stay in the gym longer. Bulking on roids in MMA is a silly notion as being huge really isn't an asset in the sport.

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Post #16   11/2/12 3:50:44PM   

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Funny that all 3 of Anderson's 205 opponents failed their tests

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Only thing PeeWeed could win lately, is winning suspensions.

Lot of good a suspension does for Bonnar since he retired, I would just give him a little heftier fine.

Post #18   11/2/12 4:15:05PM   

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Sucks that Bonnar did that. Lost a bit of respect for a dude I had a lot of respect for. He's been such a fan favorite in this sport, it just sucks that he disrespects the sport so much to cheat.



I'm not around everyone but I have been around alot here in PA and i'd say somewhere around 90% of the fighters I know are on it or have been on it. No big names. Its part of the sport and if someone came out with hard evedince saying 100% are I wouldn't be shocked. Training takes so much out of you alot of the times you have no other options if you want to fight. That leads to guys just doing it cause everyone else is.



I respectfully disagree. I dont think its part of the sport. Clearly not everyone needs it, because they would get caught. I think its stupid to try and cheat the system.



When a fighter gets the science of cycling on and off down there is currently no way of catching them. I really don't think its cheating either. I know its against the rules but its a stupid rule. They are used to help aid in training you still need to train. They will not help you protect your face or keep you out of a sub. They simply help you stay in the gym longer. Bulking on roids in MMA is a silly notion as being huge really isn't an asset in the sport.



I think the rule is really just in place to keep guys ho dont want to use PEDs from being forced to kill their liver. As long as we never abolish roids we can keep these guys from using inhuman cocktails 6 weeks out.

The rule should be that you can use roids for taining but must still be clean for performance, thats as fair as it gets, and as it currently stands thats what they have to do.

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At least we know he gave it his all



LOL can't blame him. Thats 2 ppl caught tryin to get an edge on Anderson. I wonder who has the most failed test by an oppenet?



It's funny you say that, because just a couple of weeks ago I was looking at how many opponents Anderson has had that have popped or have a TUE for TRT. Not all of them in the fight against him, but in their career. It's quite a few.

Off the top of my head, Bonnar (this is his second), Vitor, Chael (for elevated levels/TUE), Irvin, Forrest (not busted, but admitted recently), Hendo (TUE), and Leben.



What about Nate Marquardt?

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I'll just go out on a limb here and say Herman's days in the UFC are over. Three straight L's, a failed drug test and don't forget, he also pissed off DW not that long ago. I wouldn't be surprised to hear something very soon.

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Not rhe way i wanted Stephan going out. Sad really

As far as Herman goes, cut his ass. The dude is not UFC material

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Not rhe way i wanted Stephan going out. Sad really

As far as Herman goes, cut his ass. The dude is not UFC material



To be fair did you see the guys he's been fighting? I think they just did to him what they do to a lot of fighters, pick up a guy with a huge win streak and feed his momentum to fighters he's not ready for.

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Everyone is acting shocked that Bonnar used Roids. This is the same guy who used Roids against Forrest Griffin..and still lost!

Well that's the second I think Herman's been caught with Weed, so if there was any question about him getting cut I think he answered them.

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Not rhe way i wanted Stephan going out. Sad really

As far as Herman goes, cut his ass. The dude is not UFC material



To be fair did you see the guys he's been fighting? I think they just did to him what they do to a lot of fighters, pick up a guy with a huge win streak and feed his momentum to fighters he's not ready for.

by UFC material i didnt only mean his losing streak. I alsi meant his maturity level and the choices he makes

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I bet Herman gets cut too, he may have a shot to get himself back in but this is it for now....Bonnar, well I went from sad to seeing him go to not caring. That was a douche bag move as far as I am concerned.

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Anderson will eventually get busted.....for drinking Segal's urine....that's the secret behind that powerful teep.

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Lame.

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Anderson will eventually get busted.....for drinking Segal's urine....that's the secret behind that powerful teep.



Anderson knows Segals urine is banned by the commission which is why he's been making Shinzo share his as a masking agent, winner, Anderson!

Tribute to Segals piss

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Interesting. I thought he looked a little juicy at the weigh-ins, but didn't say anything. I wish I would have, would have made me look pretty cool. As opposed to stating this after the fact and looking like a douchebag.

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