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Ryan Dunn (of Jackass, Viva La Bam, etc.) dead at 34

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I'm a huge Jackass fan so this really kills me. I think it must have been pretty gruesome because they had to identify him by his tattoos and facial hair.

Post #16   6/20/11 5:59:04PM   

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he was totally drinking and driving, its no secret, sucks that he's dead, but I feel absolutely ZERO sympathy, I had 2 cousins killed at the same time by a drunk driver. Serves him right I guess.

Post #17   6/20/11 8:21:35PM   

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I'm not ready to say he was over the limit just yet. He was clearly drinking and driving but until we know his BAC, we're really only guessing as to whether it played a role in the crash. Considering that area of Pennsylvania is known for having an overpopulation of Deer, he could just as easily swerved to miss one on the road.

The reports of him drinking vary greatly, some say he had 1 beer, others say he had 3 and as many as 3 shots as well. They do all seem to agree that he was at the bar for 4 hours though.

Using this BAC Calculator and the highest estimate of his drinks (3 Pints and 3 Shots) he would have to weigh less than 155lbs to blow over the .08 limit in Pennsylvania. Dunn had to be around 200lbs, and given the frequency those guys drink, I'd guess he was still well within the legal limit.

If there's anything we know for sure from the crash is that he was going WAY to fast for that road, or any public road for that matter.

Either way, he's gone and the world is a lot less funny today. RIP Ryan.

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Posted by FlashyG

and given the frequency those guys drink, I'd guess he was still well within the legal limit.




I agree with you, that people should not jump to conclusions before that facts are all in but just FYI:

The frequency that someone drinks has very little if any affect on BAC. What you are talking about is called tolerance, or how people are able to cope with the effects of alcohol. Whether you drink once a month or every night makes very little difference on how your body metabolizes alchohol. Some people naturally eliminate alchohol faster than others. There is an enzyme in the stomache called dehydrogenase that aids in metabolizing alchohol and some people have more than others but outside of this a freqent drinker and an infrequent drinker of the same type are going to have the same BAC's given the same amount of drinks. I personally know people that are able to function somewhat normally with extremely high BAC's (see functioning alchoholic) because they drink often but that does not mean that they have a lower BAC compared to the girl puking in the corner of the bar.

What does affect BAC's between different people are other factors such as:

Age
Wieght (more importantly muscle mass vs fat and water content)
Sex (male or female)
rate of consumption
Whether they have ate any food.
Proof of alcohol

As well as a dozen others. I'm not trying to sound like a smarty pants but I have seen alot of friends get in trouble because they were under the wrong assumption that they were more adept to drive because they handled alchohol better than others.

Anyway back on topic, whether it is his fault or not, this is unfortunate news. I was just watching Dunn's new show on G4 the other day and was happy to see him still having fun. Too bad.

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Interesting, I did not know that.

I probably shouldn't have even included that in my post as the BAC calculator doesn't include anything for Tolerance. I was just pointing out that even if he drank as much as the worst estimates have said, he would still be under the legal limit to drive.

I estimated his weight at about 190lbs although I base that on nothing but his appearance, based on that weight and having 6 drinks he would apparently have a BAC of about .05

If Roger Ebert wanted to criticize him why criticize based on the speculation he was drunk and not on the grounds of excessive speed?

I think its pretty clear thats the major reason him and his passenger are dead.

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It should also be noted that even if a person is able to "function" at a higher level of intoxication, it doesn't mean that their response times don't slow down just like everyone else.

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Ryan Dunn was the man. I started watching Dunn and Bam and Dicamillo in the CKY stuff. He was hilarious, and seemed like a nice dude. He will be missed. Tragedy about the passenger....

RIP

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Posted by FlashyG

Interesting, I did not know that.

I probably shouldn't have even included that in my post as the BAC calculator doesn't include anything for Tolerance. I was just pointing out that even if he drank as much as the worst estimates have said, he would still be under the legal limit to drive.

I estimated his weight at about 190lbs although I base that on nothing but his appearance, based on that weight and having 6 drinks he would apparently have a BAC of about .05

If Roger Ebert wanted to criticize him why criticize based on the speculation he was drunk and not on the grounds of excessive speed?

I think its pretty clear thats the major reason him and his passenger are dead.




You may very well be right, if the estimations are correct on how much he drank he could have been under the legal limit. I like that you are breaking it down and thinking about it. It's hard to say based off of what others are saying he drank. Did he drink prior to meeting up with them, or possibly after?? We won't know for certain until information about the blood tests come out (assuming that they were able to do tests and that the info will be released)

Anyway, again I was not trying to disect a good post by you, I just wanted to note that.

And grappler0000, good point.

Post #23   6/21/11 12:29:18AM   

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Ironic.

His claim to fame was shoving a car up his ass, and yet it was a car that ultimately killed him.

Sometimes life is stranger than fiction.

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Posted by FlashyG

Interesting, I did not know that.

I probably shouldn't have even included that in my post as the BAC calculator doesn't include anything for Tolerance. I was just pointing out that even if he drank as much as the worst estimates have said, he would still be under the legal limit to drive.





he actually wasnt that big of a drinker compared to the other guys
Tolerance has nothing to do with BAC, a hardcore drunk and a novice could drink 8 beer each and their BAC would be the same, the drunk could probably function a hell of alot better while the novice would be floored.

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Dunn and Pontius were the two guys that could crack me up every time I watched any Jackass show or movie, and for that reason were my two favorites. Sad news anytime someone loses their life early, fault aside.

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Dunn and Pontius were the two guys that could crack me up every time I watched any Jackass show or movie, and for that reason were my two favorites. Sad news anytime someone loses their life early, fault aside.



Pontius and Wee Man are my favorites. Wee Man is the best.

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Jackass star Ryan Dunn was drunk when he crashed his Porsche on a Pennsylvania highway while going as fast as 140 mph, according to police.

Dunn, 34, died along with his friend Zachary Hartwell, 30, from West Chester, Pa. Both men suffered "blunt and thermal trauma" in the crash, which turned Dunn's car into a fireball, according to the autopsy report.

Dunn was driving at twice the legal limit, with authorities saying toxicology results put his blood alcohol concentration at 0.196 percent, while the legal state limit is 0.08.


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wow that was quick.

Last report I read said the toxicology reports wouldn't be in for 4-6 weeks.

I guess they meant hours!?

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I heard that news this morning. Not startling to hear about the speeds, considering the pictures of the wreckage. Tragic ****, I've lost many a friend to car accidents, drunk driving or other wise. I've almost died more times than I can count in a car.

Please be safe, everyone. Check your tire pressure, get your brakes checked and bled goddamnit, bleed those lines!!! Do preventative car maintenance, get off the cell phones, and don't drive drunk.

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