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Dear Athletes,

You may see media reports in the days ahead about some union tactics that are both shameful and pathetic. The Culinary Workers Union Local 226 in Las Vegas and the Las Vegas Teamsters union allegedly have devised a plan to “organize MMA fighters.” The reason this is pathetic is that the Culinary Union is the exact same union that has spent years, as well as the money from its dues-paying members, to do everything imaginable to keep MMA out of New York and to run a campaign telling UFC fans, sponsors and government officials to not support the professional sport that all of you compete in. They even created a website called “Unfitforchildren.org” to try and hurt the UFC, the sport of MMA and the very same athletes that they suddenly claim to care so much about.

Now, they are making more accusations against the UFC and they apparently believe that if MMA athletes would support the unions’ organizing efforts, sign union cards and agree to pay dues to the union every month, then the world of MMA would be a better place. Not only is such a mission misguided, it hides the unions’ only real interest, which is organizing workers at Station Casinos in Las Vegas, NV. They hope that by applying pressure to the UFC that somehow it will increase their chances in Las Vegas. Certainly, we will admit that their old tactics haven’t been working because they have been harassing Station Casinos, its employees and customers for over 15 years and they have yet to organize even one Station Casinos’ property.

There is a lot more that we could go into about these unions and their tactics, but for the time being, I’ll just point out the most obvious and illogical fact about this latest tactic. As a matter of law, unions can only organize employees, and as we all know, MMA athletes are independent contractors—not employees. You would think that union leaders would have done that little bit of research before issuing a press release.

On behalf of everyone in the UFC, please know that we consider all of you to be amazing athletes and we are proud to have created a worldwide platform where you can compete in the sport you love and be compensated for it. For that reason, we will not sit by and let a group that has publicly demonstrated that it wants to destroy our beloved sport try to do so by lying to you. We will fight them with the truth and we will win.




I don't think I have ever heard the UFC say 'MMA' this much ever.

I think the UFC fears their dictatorship is being threatened.

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Post #1   8/11/15 7:10:11PM   

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I'm not very educated in this field, so sorry if this is a stupid question, but how do all the other major sports have players unions, but mma fighters cannot? They are all employed/under contract with the NFL or MLB just like these fighters are with the UFC. Is this a different kind of union?

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Posted by Playground_Samurai

I'm not very educated in this field, so sorry if this is a stupid question, but how do all the other major sports have players unions, but mma fighters cannot? They are all employed/under contract with the NFL or MLB just like these fighters are with the UFC. Is this a different kind of union?



Of note, UFC fighters are not employees. They are independent contractors. Not sure if that is even important now, but it is different than players employed as employees.

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Posted by Playground_Samurai

I'm not very educated in this field, so sorry if this is a stupid question, but how do all the other major sports have players unions, but mma fighters cannot? They are all employed/under contract with the NFL or MLB just like these fighters are with the UFC. Is this a different kind of union?



Of note, UFC fighters are not employees. They are independent contractors. Not sure if that is even important now, but it is different than players employed as employees.



That's what i'm not understanding. Do you know how so? And if you do, can you explain?

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You're not much of an independent contractor if your financial ventures are hampered intentionally by your employer along with a very specific dress code. I don't know what outcome a union would have but the ufc has done everything they can at this point to set the stage for forming one.

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I'm not saying the UFC didn't issue this, but it reads like a troll job. Are they really stupid enough to send this out? I would think they are smarter than that. Anyone have a source for this?

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Posted by grappler0000

I'm not saying the UFC didn't issue this, but it reads like a troll job. Are they really stupid enough to send this out? I would think they are smarter than that. Anyone have a source for this?



I seen Nate Quarry tweet referencing it. He possibly could have been going off hearsay though.

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Don't be sared homie.

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This was a front row Bryan exclusive, so take it for what it's worth. It being real doesn't surprise me given the history of the players involved.

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reminds me of when I was much younger and worked for Target. Part of my 'training' was to watch a film on NOT joining a Union as it was in violation of Target policy and I could be reprimanded for doing so.

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This is a really gud thing. mma is a really brutal game. if players include themselves in organized fights then it would be rediculous.

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Posted by airkerma

You're not much of an independent contractor if your financial ventures are hampered intentionally by your employer along with a very specific dress code. I don't know what outcome a union would have but the ufc has done everything they can at this point to set the stage for forming one.



Exactly.... People keep comparing the UFC to the NFL, NBA MLB, NHL etc.... I think a better comparison is the PGA Tour. Could you imagine if the PGA Tour did a deal with Puma for X amount of dollars and then said all players must wear only issued Puma clothing for all PGA Tour events and hell anything in relation to the PGA Tour that whole week. Also your new sponsorship amount will be directly correlated to the amount of events you've played previously... and by the way its peanuts compared to what all these other companies are paying you to put their logos on your hats and shirts.




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