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BobbyCreek
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 48-27
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Seattle
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1. Cain
2. JDS
3. Cormier
4. Barnett
5. Big Foot
6. Overeem
7. Werdum
8. Mir
9. Nelson
10. Hunt
11. Big Nog
12. Struve
13. Kharitonov
14. Browne
15. Duffee
16. Miocic
17. Carwin
18. Alex Volkov
19. Kongo
20. Schaub
21. Gonzaga
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Post #1 3/3/13 8:49:51PM
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Remember Paul Herrera
Career record: 1039-551
Season: 42-17 (#27)
Location: You think you can tell heaven from hell?
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Ill bite.
1. Mark Hunt
2. Cain Velasquez
3. Junior Dos Santos
4. Daniel Cormier
5. Fabricio Werdum
6. Bigfoot Silva
7. Alistair Overeem
8. Josh Barnett
9. Big Nog
10. Frank Mir
11. Roy Nelson
12. Travis Browne
13. Gabriel Gonzaga
14. Stefan Struve
15. Chieck Kongo
16. Sergei Kharitonov
17. Stipe Miocic
18. Matt Mitrione
19. Ben Rothwell
20. Pat Barry
21. Brendan Schaub
*Sidenotes -
I view Carwin as retired since every part of him is broken and hes in his late thirties.
I think Nog is better than Mir. If they fight a third time Nog will be the Vegas favorite, and i think his style of fighting matches up better against the rest of the division than Franks. Flame on.
I havent seen Bellators Hws fight so theyre not getting in my rankings.
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Post #2 3/3/13 9:41:35PM
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Career record: 1065-578
Season: 40-19 (#460)
Location: NW Ohio - 419
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Posted by Pookie
I think Nog is better than Mir. If they fight a third time Nog will be the Vegas favorite, and i think his style of fighting matches up better against the rest of the division than Franks. Flame on.
Why do you say the Vegas odds would favor Nogueira¿ Mir is 2-0 with 2 finishes against him and every legitimate rankings have Mir above Nogueira.
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Post #3 3/3/13 10:04:41PM
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Remember Paul Herrera
Career record: 1039-551
Season: 42-17 (#27)
Location: You think you can tell heaven from hell?
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Posted by Playground_Samurai
Posted by Pookie
I think Nog is better than Mir. If they fight a third time Nog will be the Vegas favorite, and i think his style of fighting matches up better against the rest of the division than Franks. Flame on.
Why do you say the Vegas odds would favor Nogueira¿ Mir is 2-0 with 2 finishes against him and every legitimate rankings have Mir above Nogueira.
Because he was kicking his ass in one sided fashion in thefght where he didnt have staph infection.
Thats a heavier, more consistent variable to factor in then Nog showing up sick or getting caught in a similar transition/finish on the ground.
Also, Mir has worse wrestling than Nog has TDD, which in all likelihood means the fight stays on its feet for a long period of time. Mir had no answer for the Jab and he was getting blasted in the clinch.
Vegas will weigh a one-sided performance over an awesome submission against a top level Bjj BB. Because theyre in the business of making money. And the smart money is on the fighter who performed better. Though Noglost, he performed better.
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BJ Penn beat Frankie Edgar more times than Benson Henderson beat Frankie Edgar.
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Post #4 3/3/13 10:30:19PM
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Remember Paul Herrera
Career record: 1039-551
Season: 42-17 (#27)
Location: You think you can tell heaven from hell?
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Every legitimate rankings have Mir above Nogueira.
Every legitimate ranking also ranks in accordance to W/Ls and rarely touches the "who would win against who" factor. But thats pretty much all Vegas accounts for. My rankings reflect who i think would do the best against their peers. Online sources go off empirical data because they want to be taken seriously. I dont, because i dont care about that. I care about whos the best. And in my opinion, the empirical data matters less than my analysis in dtermining that.
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BJ Penn beat Frankie Edgar more times than Benson Henderson beat Frankie Edgar.
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Post #5 3/3/13 10:43:10PM
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sparky
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 1009-537
Season: 36-23 (#710)
Location: Ontario "905"
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1 Cain Velasquez
2 JDS
3 Frank Mir
4 Fabricio Werdum
5 Daniel Cormier
6 Antonio Silva
7 Alistair Overeem
8 Big Nog
9 Josh Barnett
10 Roy Nelson
11 Travis Browne
12 Mark Hunt
13 Stefan Struve
14 Brendan Schaub
15 Gabriel Gonzaga
16 Ben Rothwell
17 Chieck Kongo
18 Stipe Miocic
19 Shawn Jordan
20 Lavar Johnson
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Post #6 3/3/13 10:57:32PM
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Randy is King
Career record: 998-592
Season: 42-17 (#92)
Location: Ontario
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1. Cain Velasquez
2. Junior Dos Santos
3. Bigfoot Silva
4. Fabricio Werdum
5. Daniel Cormier
6. Mark Hunt
7. Alistair Overeem
8. Frank Mir
9. Josh Barnett
10. Big Nog
11. Roy Nelson
12. Gabriel Gonzaga
13. Travis Browne
14. Stefan Struve
15. Chieck Kongo
17. Stipe Miocic
18. Ben Rothwell
19. Brendan Schaub
20. Shawn Jordan
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Post #7 3/4/13 3:28:34AM
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shaneTpain
MMA Sensei
Career record: 399-259
Season: 39-20 (#605)
Location: Canada
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No love for Volkov???
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Post #8 3/4/13 10:01:04AM
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Come at me bro
Career record: 603-359
Season: 46-13 (#52)
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
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Posted by Pookie
Every legitimate rankings have Mir above Nogueira.
Every legitimate ranking also ranks in accordance to W/Ls and rarely touches the "who would win against who" factor. But thats pretty much all Vegas accounts for. My rankings reflect who i think would do the best against their peers. Online sources go off empirical data because they want to be taken seriously. I dont, because i dont care about that. I care about whos the best. And in my opinion, the empirical data matters less than my analysis in dtermining that.
if this were to be true, the betting public would come in heavy on Mir and shift the line to make him at least a -250 favourite
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Post #9 3/4/13 10:36:46AM
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Remember Paul Herrera
Career record: 1039-551
Season: 42-17 (#27)
Location: You think you can tell heaven from hell?
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Posted by Bubbles
Posted by Pookie
Every legitimate rankings have Mir above Nogueira.
Every legitimate ranking also ranks in accordance to W/Ls and rarely touches the "who would win against who" factor. But thats pretty much all Vegas accounts for. My rankings reflect who i think would do the best against their peers. Online sources go off empirical data because they want to be taken seriously. I dont, because i dont care about that. I care about whos the best. And in my opinion, the empirical data matters less than my analysis in dtermining that.
if this were to be true, the betting public would come in heavy on Mir and shift the line to make him at least a -250 favourite
True. Though i think anyone that bet on Mir at -200 is a fool.
Youre right though, Vegas will put the odds as low as people will bet on it. Mitigates risk.
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BJ Penn beat Frankie Edgar more times than Benson Henderson beat Frankie Edgar.
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Post #10 3/4/13 11:04:22AM
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BobbyCreek
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 48-27
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Seattle
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Posted by shaneTpain
No love for Volkov???
I had him at 18
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Post #11 3/4/13 6:53:28PM
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prozacnation1978
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 1016-531
Season: 43-16 (#40)
Location: san diego
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I got the same for top 10
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Post #12 3/6/13 1:59:37PM
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