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I'm not a Faber fan to be totally honest. I think he's overrated, not in skill, but in the poster boy department. I get tired of people constantly going on and on about him as if he's Fedor or Anderson Silva status, which he's not.


I noticed during the commentary they mentioned there was talk of the winner getting a shot at the title. BULLSHIT. Faber shouldn't recieve ANOTHER gift title shot. Yeah, he won tonight, but nothing Faber did made me think he deserves a shot coming off one win. That would make three in a row.


Losses belt to Mike Brown
--->
Wins against JENS PULVER
--->
Recieves a title shot against Brown after ONE win
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Loses in the rematch against Brown
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Wins against Raphael Assuncao
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Recieves ANOTHER title shot at Jose Aldo
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Loses to Aldo
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WIns against Takeya Mizugaki
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BETTER NOT RECIEVE ANOTHER TITLE SHOT

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The Bonus Of The Night winners, each gets $10K:
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Posted by FastKnockout

I'm not a Faber fan to be totally honest. I think he's overrated, not in skill, but in the poster boy department. I get tired of people constantly going on and on about him as if he's Fedor or Anderson Silva status, which he's not.


I noticed during the commentary they mentioned there was talk of the winner getting a shot at the title. BULLSHIT. Faber shouldn't recieve ANOTHER gift title shot. Yeah, he won tonight, but nothing Faber did made me think he deserves a shot coming off one win. That would make three in a row.



Losses belt to Mike Brown - Which was his first loss since 2005 which was against a much large Tyson Griffin.
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Wins against JENS PULVER - Who just came off a solid win over Cub Swanson.

--->Recieves a title shot against Brown after ONE win
Loses in the rematch against Brown - Which Faber fought a 5 round war with two broken hands.

--->Wins against Raphael Assuncao - Who was looking very solid and hadn't loss since 2006.

--->Recieves ANOTHER title shot at Jose Aldo
Loses to Aldo - Stayed in their with one of the best in the world for 5 rounds even when he could barely stand he still gave it his all. Thats something the past 7 fighters that have faced Aldo have been unable to do.
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WIns against Takeya Mizugaki - A very solid win and was able to stop him which no one else in the WEC has been able to do. Torres (x-champ) and Jorgensen (who is about to fight the champ) where both unable to stop Mizugaki.
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(BETTER NOT RECIEVE ANOTHER TITLE SHOT ) Why not? Who else do you have in mind. He also has a win over the current champ.


Now don't get me wrong I don't think Faber is in the top 10 P4P fighter in the world but in my book he is in the top 20 P4P fighter of the world. The guy ruled 145 pounds for years and you have to respect that.

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Ended up dozing off last night after main event, but went 7-4 on this one with like 45 points. Another really entertaining WEC card, im gonna miss these.

In regards to Faber, Id agree that he hasnt justified a title shot YET, that was a big win for him, no ones dominated Mizugaki in the WEC like that. Another big win over a top ten like Torres, Bowles, Jorg, or even Demetrious and I think he's ready.

Remember, he has a win over Dominick Cruz already. His only loss Faber in the UFC= Awesome.

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(BETTER NOT RECIEVE ANOTHER TITLE SHOT ) Why not? Who else do you have in mind. He also has a win over the current champ.




All great points Tel, and a first round submission of Dominick Cruz no less.

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pretty good night of fight we had there, very entertaining. went 10-1 with 79pts 5th top score and hit my little parlay of jabouin/mendes. Does anyone know if we still get badges for seondary league top 10 scores? lol cause this would be my first

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Does anyone know if we still get badges for seondary league top 10 scores?

Yes, at the end of the season. The cash prizes are only for the overall top scorer and earner.

Only 5-5 last night, didn't know about the Koch-Rivera fight until it was too late to update my picks.

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Posted by telnights


Posted by FastKnockout

I'm not a Faber fan to be totally honest. I think he's overrated, not in skill, but in the poster boy department. I get tired of people constantly going on and on about him as if he's Fedor or Anderson Silva status, which he's not.


I noticed during the commentary they mentioned there was talk of the winner getting a shot at the title. BULLSHIT. Faber shouldn't recieve ANOTHER gift title shot. Yeah, he won tonight, but nothing Faber did made me think he deserves a shot coming off one win. That would make three in a row.



Losses belt to Mike Brown - Which was his first loss since 2005 which was against a much large Tyson Griffin.
--->
Wins against JENS PULVER - Who just came off a solid win over Cub Swanson.

--->Recieves a title shot against Brown after ONE win
Loses in the rematch against Brown - Which Faber fought a 5 round war with two broken hands.

--->Wins against Raphael Assuncao - Who was looking very solid and hadn't loss since 2006.

--->Recieves ANOTHER title shot at Jose Aldo
Loses to Aldo - Stayed in their with one of the best in the world for 5 rounds even when he could barely stand he still gave it his all. Thats something the past 7 fighters that have faced Aldo have been unable to do.
--->
WIns against Takeya Mizugaki - A very solid win and was able to stop him which no one else in the WEC has been able to do. Torres (x-champ) and Jorgensen (who is about to fight the champ) where both unable to stop Mizugaki.
--->
(BETTER NOT RECIEVE ANOTHER TITLE SHOT ) Why not? Who else do you have in mind. He also has a win over the current champ.


Now don't get me wrong I don't think Faber is in the top 10 P4P fighter in the world but in my book he is in the top 20 P4P fighter of the world. The guy ruled 145 pounds for years and you have to respect that.




I believe that title shots should be earned, and with more than one win. You just stated all the positives Faber brought in his lossses, but the point is, a loss is a loss. In racing, it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning's winning, and that's the way it should be in MMA as well. Sure, Faber has heart, but the fact is that he hasn't been winning consistantly enough to earn a title shot. Let Faber win two more fights in dominating fasion and then give it to him, or give one legit fight like Miquel Torres.

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Posted by FastKnockout
I believe that title shots should be earned, and with more than one win. You just stated all the positives Faber brought in his lossses, but the point is, a loss is a loss. In racing, it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning's winning, and that's the way it should be in MMA as well. Sure, Faber has heart, but the fact is that he hasn't been winning consistantly enough to earn a title shot. Let Faber win two more fights in dominating fasion and then give it to him, or give one legit fight like Miquel Torres.



So how didn't he earn them? Holding the 145 WEC title for almost 3 years isn't enough to make you happy? How about 5 title defenses is that enough to earn him some respect? BTW one of those title fights was against Dominick Cruz who is now the 135 pound champ. He did all of this in a weight class he really is undersized for. So you tell me who do you think should be fighting for the title at 135 after the Jorgensen vs Cruz fight. Just so you know Dominick Cruz's only loss is to Faber.

Now I agree, a loss is just that a loss. But Faber has also done a lot of winning. How you loss also matters because if you still give someone a tough fight with two broken hands that says a lot about that fighter. If you stay in there with one of the best in the world when you can barely walk also says a lot about a fighter.
BTW in a lot of racing leagues how you loss(where you place) matters because at the end of the season there is this little thing called points and who ever has the most truly wins.

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