UFC 80/FN 12 Winners and Losers - Who Should They Fight Next?

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CornishMMA
1/24/08 8:23:29AM
HW

Fabricio Werdum -VS- ?

Gabriel Gonzaga -VS- ?

Colin Robinson -VS- ?

Antoni Hardonk -VS- ?

LHW

Wilson Gouveia -VS- ?

Jason Lambert -VS- ?

James Lee -VS- ?

MW

Alessio Sakara -VS- ?

Jorge Rivera -VS- ?

Kendall Grove -VS- ?

Patrick Cote -VS- ?

Drew McFedries -VS- ?

WW

Jess Liaudin -VS- ?

Marcus Davis -VS- ?

Paul Kelly -VS- ?

Paul Taylor -VS- ?

Mike Swick -VS- ?

Josh Burkman -VS- ?

LW

BJ Penn -VS- ?

Joe Stevenson -VS- ?

Per Eklund -VS- ?

Sam Stout -VS- ?

Nate Diaz -VS- ?

Alvin Robsinson -VS- ?

Thiago Tavares -VS- ?

Michihio Omigawa -VS- ?

Kurt Pelligrino -VS- ?

Alberto Crane -VS- ?

Gray Maynard -VS- ?

Dennis Siver -VS- ?

Jeremy Stephens -VS- ?

Cole Miller -VS- ?

Corey Hill -VS- ?

Joe Veres -VS- ?

Matt Wiman -VS- ?

Justin Bucholz -VS- ?
Naturaldisaster
1/24/08 8:54:27AM
HW

Fabricio Werdum -VS- Brandon Vera

Gabriel Gonzaga -VS- Colin Robinson

Colin Robinson -VS- Gabriel Gonzaga

Antoni Hardonk -VS- Cro Cop

LHW

Wilson Gouveia -VS- Machida

Jason Lambert -VS- Houston Alexander

James Lee -VS- Wandy

MW

Alessio Sakara -VS- Michael Bisping

Jorge Rivera -VS- Patrick Cote

Kendall Grove -VS- joe Doerkson

Patrick Cote -VS- Jorge Rivera

Drew McFedries -VS- Rich Franklin

WW

Jess Liaudin -VS- Paul Taylor

Marcus Davis -VS- Jon Fitch

Paul Kelly -VS- akahiro Gono

Paul Taylor -VS- Jess Liaudin

Mike Swick -VS- Chris Lytle

Josh Burkman -VS- Tommy Speer

LW

BJ Penn -VS- Sean Sherk

Joe Stevenson -VS- Kenny Florian

Per Eklund -VS- Tiago Tavares

Sam Stout -VS- Roger Huerta

Nate Diaz -VS- Mac Danzig

Alvin Robsinson -VS- Din Thomas

Thiago Tavares -VS- Per Eklund

Michihio Omigawa -VS- never fight in the ufc again

Kurt Pelligrino -VS- Tyson Griffin

Alberto Crane -VS- doug evans

Gray Maynard -VS- Rob emerson II (I want to see emerson get hurt lol)

Dennis Siver -VS- New Guy

Jeremy Stephens -VS- Joe Louzon

Cole Miller -VS- Cory Hill

Corey Hill -VS- Cole Miller

Joe Veres -VS- New Guy

Matt Wiman -VS- new guy

Justin Bucholz -VS- who cares
CornishMMA
1/24/08 9:30:01AM
added to ones i really liek the idea of

Posted by Naturaldisaster

HW

Fabricio Werdum -VS- Brandon Vera

Gabriel Gonzaga -VS- Colin Robinson

Antoni Hardonk -VS- Cro Cop

LHW

Wilson Gouveia -VS- Machida (already fighting tito)

Jason Lambert -VS- Houston Alexander (already fighting Irvin)

James Lee -VS- Wandy

MW

Alessio Sakara -VS- Michael Bisping (already fighting McCarthy)

Jorge Rivera -VS- Patrick Cote

Kendall Grove -VS- joe Doerkson (already fighing Macdonald)

Drew McFedries -VS- Rich Franklin

WW

Jess Liaudin -VS- Paul Taylor

Marcus Davis -VS- Jon Fitch (already fighting Wilson)

Paul Kelly -VS- akahiro Gono

Mike Swick -VS- Chris Lytle

Josh Burkman -VS- Tommy Speer

LW

BJ Penn -VS- Sean Sherk

Joe Stevenson -VS- Kenny Florian (already fighting Lauzon)

Per Eklund -VS- Tiago Tavares

Sam Stout -VS- Roger Huerta

Nate Diaz -VS- Mac Danzig

Alvin Robsinson -VS- Din Thomas

Michihio Omigawa -VS- never fight in the ufc again

Kurt Pelligrino -VS- Tyson Griffin

Alberto Crane -VS- doug evans

Gray Maynard -VS- Rob emerson II (I want to see emerson get hurt lol)

Dennis Siver -VS- New Guy

Jeremy Stephens -VS- Joe Louzon

Cole Miller -VS- Cory Hill

Joe Veres -VS- New Guy

Matt Wiman -VS- new guy

Justin Bucholz -VS- who cares



I really like some of them but heres another good one - IF Tyson beats Tibau he should fight Daddy
Twenty20Dollars
1/24/08 12:48:05PM
nate diaz vs mac danzig
JBatch
1/24/08 1:33:46PM
HW

Fabricio Werdum -VS- Winner Nog vs. Big Tim

Gabriel Gonzaga -VS- Cro Cop

Colin Robinson -VS- CUT

Antoni Hardonk -VS- Heath Herring

LHW

Wilson Gouveia -VS- Shogun

Jason Lambert -VS- RTS

James Lee -VS- CUT

MW

Alessio Sakara -VS- Patrick Cote

Jorge Rivera -VS- Leben

Kendall Grove -VS- Kampmann

Patrick Cote -VS- Sakara

Drew McFedries -VS- Cut

WW

Jess Liaudin -VS- Paul Taylor

Marcus Davis -VS- Jon Fitch

Paul Kelly -VS- Cut

Paul Taylor -VS- Liaudin

Mike Swick -VS- Thiago Alves

Josh Burkman -VS- Tommy Speer

LW

BJ Penn -VS- Sean Sherk

Joe Stevenson -VS- Roger Huerta

Per Eklund -VS- Cut

Sam Stout -VS- Rich Clementi

Nate Diaz -VS- Mac Danzig

Alvin Robsinson -VS- CUT

Thiago Tavares -VS- Melvin Guillard

Michihio Omigawa -VS- CUT

Kurt Pelligrino -VS- Tyson Griffin

Alberto Crane -VS- Hermes Franca

Gray Maynard -VS- Emerson

Dennis Siver -VS- Cut

Jeremy Stephens -VS- Frank Edgar

Cole Miller -VS- ?????????

Corey Hill -VS- Ken Florian

Joe Veres -VS- CUT

loonytnt
1/24/08 1:56:56PM
hard to say, a lot of fighters i put in to fight have a fight and if they lose there out, so idk give me a few months lol
NatedawgThaM
1/24/08 4:07:28PM
We already did the ones for UFC 80 in another thread...


Patrick Cote -VS- Martin Kampman(when he returns) or Thales Letis if his return is too long

Drew McFedries -VS- Kendall Grove

Mike Swick -VS- Karo Parysian-Thiago Alves winner unless UFC grants Karo that undeserved before Fitch title shot, then he gets the loser :rolleyes:

Josh Burkman -VS- Josh Koschek or Dustin Hazzelett winner

Nate Diaz -VS- Din Thomas

Alvin Robinson -VS- Kurt Pelligrino

Thiago Tavares -VS- Clay Guida

Michihio Omigawa -VS- Jorge Gurgel

Kurt Pelligrino -VS- Alvin Robinson

Alberto Crane -VS- Dennis Siver

Gray Maynard -VS- Cole Miller

Dennis Siver -VS- Alberto Crane

Jeremy Stephens -VS- Joe Lauzon-Kenflo loser

Cole Miller -VS- Gray Maynard

Corey Hill -VS- Matt Wiman

Joe Veres kicked out of the UFC

Matt Wiman -VS- Corey Hill

Justin Bucholz -VS- somebody making there UFC debut
Gipper
1/24/08 4:19:58PM
werdum-vera
gonzaga-lesnar
hardonk-crocop
stevenson-tavares
gouveia-soku
rivera-kampman
davis-swick
pelligrino-diaz
cote-franklin
maynard-huerta
stephens-hill
mcfredries-leben
CornishMMA
1/25/08 9:37:07AM

Posted by Twenty20Dollars

nate diaz vs mac danzig


Danzig is fighting Bocek at UFC 84

Posted by JBatch

HW

Fabricio Werdum -VS- Winner Nog vs. Big Tim yep Dana said thats happening

Gabriel Gonzaga -VS- Cro Cop

LHW

Wilson Gouveia -VS- Shogun timing a bit off

Jason Lambert -VS- RTS nah easier win needed for Soku

MW

Alessio Sakara -VS- Patrick Cote

Jorge Rivera -VS- Leben whats the point in that rematch?

Kendall Grove -VS- Kampmann another KO loss for da spyder

LW

Joe Stevenson -VS- Roger Huerta

Alberto Crane -VS- Hermes Franca nah id give Crane a win

Jeremy Stephens -VS- Frank Edgar


Dude you are way too harsh with your cuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lee had a back injury how can you cut him for that! And WTF Kid is only 1-2 losing to kenny and diaz is no shame! Drew is 2-2 and just got back from rough injury!!! wtf dude

I deleted the irrelvant ones - theres no real point in matching them up with fighters who already have upcoming fights and/or the timing doesnt work but i like some of them, think the Daddy Huerta fight has to happen but its a bit of a problem with guys coming off title shots cos they could derail a new contender and the UFC dont want that
ThaAxeMurderer7
1/25/08 7:41:09PM
Feeding James Lee to Wandy would be like feeding a poodle to a Pitbull.
Kpro
1/25/08 7:49:45PM

Posted by ThaAxeMurderer7

Feeding James Lee to Wandy would be like feeding a poodle to a Pitbull.



I agree. I'm too lazy to look it up but has Lee ever fought at 185? Seems like he should consider the move with the huge strength disadvantage he has against just about anyone at 205.
JBatch
1/25/08 8:05:53PM
The way the ufc is buying up fighters and the amount of talented guys I would be that harsh on guys. ........i mean it doesn't mean they can't work thier way back like Marcus Davis or now Josh Neer.

The Rivera Leben fight is needed I just want to see Leben back for the love of Job.
CornishMMA
1/29/08 6:01:55AM

Posted by JBatch

The Rivera Leben fight is needed I just want to see Leben back for the love of Job.


Dude they have already fought and Leben blitzed him in 2 mins, i agree it would be different now (ie last longer) but is there really that much of a need for a rematch?? is it that clear Rivera would win this time? Anyways Leben is fightng Sakara so thats out for now

OK here is the definitive list of future fights that Joe Silva should make

Cro Cop -VS- either Gonzaga or Hardonk

Lambert -VS- Lee or Soku

Gouveia -VS- Shogun or Jardine

McFedries -VS- Franklin

Cote -VS- Leites/Kampman/Rivera

Liaudin -VS- Taylor

Swick -VS- Lytle (if he wins) or Alves (if he loses)

Eklund -VS- Tavares

Huerta -VS- Daddy

Diaz -VS- Franca 2

Corey -VS- Cole

Pelligrino -VS- Robinson

Crane -VS- Veres (0-2 VS 0-2 loser leaves)

Stephens -VS- Edgar
UFCjunkieX
1/31/08 1:43:13AM
HW

Fabricio Werdum -VS- Cheick Kongo

Gabriel Gonzaga -VS- Brandon Vera

Colin Robinson -VS-

Antoni Hardonk -VS- maybe Cro Cop

LHW

Wilson Gouveia -VS- Keith Jardine (only top ten available)

Jason Lambert -VS- Sokoudjou?

James Lee -VS- Nubish New Comer

MW

Alessio Sakara -VS- is FIGHTING Chris Leben at MW

Jorge Rivera -VS-
Dean Lister, Alan Belcher
Patrick Cote -VS-

Kendall Grove -VS- Shit Fighter

Drew McFedries -VS- Shit Fighter

WW

Jess Liaudin -VS- Paul Kelly

Marcus Davis -VS- Jon Fitch

Paul Taylor -VS-

Mike Swick -VS- Diego Sanchez

Josh Burkman -VS- Chris Lytle

LW

BJ Penn -VS- is fighting Sean Sherk

Joe Stevenson -VS- Roger Huerta

Per Eklund -VS- Nubish Newcomer

Sam Stout -VS- is fighting Rich Clementi

Nate Diaz -VS- Kurt Pelligrino

Alvin Robsinson -VS-

Thiago Tavares -VS- Clay Guida?

Michihio Omigawa -VS-

Alberto Crane -VS-

Gray Maynard -VS- Jorge Gurgel if winner

Dennis Siver -VS-

Jeremy Stephens -VS- loser Griffin/ Tibau

Cole Miller -VS- Justin Bucholz (get him out of UFC)

Corey Hill -VS- another shit fighter

Joe Veres -VS-

Matt Wiman -VS- Terry Etim

means should be out of UFC for now.
Only possible exceptions are Paul Taylor and Alvin Robinson, the rest are definately gone.
CornishMMA
1/31/08 7:34:30AM
No way dude, you cant say Crane should definately be gone, ok he is 0-2 in the UFC but thats against 2 of the very best LW's (Huerta and Batman) and he is prolly the best BJJ guy in the division, also he very nearly best Batman with that highkick, thats a way harsh cut imo but i agree with some of the others

They should definately match him with Veres so he gets his 1st UFC win, thats the best thing to do with guys coming off a few losses in a row match them up together and the loser leaves
DustinT
1/31/08 6:40:09PM
u guys really wanna see crocop and GG again?

hmph.

i love crocop, but i want a fresh matchup.
CornishMMA
2/1/08 5:56:16AM
Well its just since their the fight the winner (GG) is coming off of 2 straight losses and the loser (CC) is coming off of 1 loss so pitting them together would seperate the wheat from the chaff in the hw division

Plus CC fans wanna see him headkick him back, and Manbearpig fans wanna see him win easily the more predictable route (takedowns and GnP)

But yeah the Hardonk fight would be much better and more exciting so id go for that one
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