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Posted by NatedawgThaM
VERA IS BETTER ON THE GROUND THEN HE IS ON THE FEET!!!
Glad I got that out first. Because I know a lot of post first -research last posters think Vera is some kick boxer with no ground game and that Werdum will submit him. But that's not true!!! Vera was a great wrestler who became great with BJJ with grapplers quest tournament wins before he went into MMA and actually learned some kickboxing and started KOing folks.
He trains with a BJJ black belt so I see that getting him ready for the ground even better and he'll be ready with great sub defense and GNP. I think he will tool Werdum on the feet and get a late KO or a clear decision.
Yeah Werdum has never been KO'd but he has never faced the complete package like Vera. He's faced only kickboxers or only grapplers except Gonzaga who lacks heart and Big Nog with no real KO power. Vera is good wherever the fight goes except in the clinch against huge people like Big Tim who just hold him there.
I know Vera has a good ground game but that's a pretty bold statement you made. I don't know too much about Vera so I cannot really debate it. However, I am certain that even though Vera has a competent ground game, it is definitely not at Werdum's level. Not only is Werdum a really strong grappler, he is also very difficult to finish so Vera is going to have his hands full.
If Vera were to win, I see it during the earlier rounds. If it goes the distance, I think Werdum will grind it out for a decision (or a 3rd submission). Also, (to me) it sounds like you don't like Tim Sylvia much.
I’m not a big fan of either. I can’t stand Vera’s attitude and Tim isn’t the most exciting fighter since IMHO he stopped using Steroids he can’t finish fights and is not near as good and Explosive/Quick as he use to be. If Arlovski’s not so great chin didn’t run into his big ol’ hand, I think that 2nd fight would have went the distance.
I’m just nowhere close to jumping onto the Werdum bandwagon. He looked absolutely horrible against Arlosvki and just because he beat one hit wonder, can’t take a punch Gonzaga everybody is screaming “Werdum #1 contender!” Plus everybody is underestimating Vera’s ground game. He’s a great wrestler with great submissions training with a black belt. I think the black belt BJJ trainer will help him defend submissions and his wrestling will be defending takedowns and if this fight does go to the ground IMO it will only be from a Vera strike or a Vera takedown with his wrestling. I don’t think Werdum will get him down. Vera won’t get close enough for a leg trip and I don’t think Werdum has great shots.
I think this fight will look like Shogun/Forrest. Got a great BJJ Black Belt with not so great shoot-in takedowns going against a good striker with good wrestling who won’t get close enough to allow you to trip him down.