USA TODAY: Frankie Edgar replaces Erik Koch, meets champ Jose Aldo at UFC 153

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BillsNewAccount
8/31/12 9:26:06AM
Changing weight classes seems to be the new thing to get a title shot. Had Nate stayed at 155 he probably wouldn't have a title shot but instead he went to 170 to get beat up by some bigger wrestlers. Dropped back down to 155, clowned Cerrone, made Jim Miller bite his tongue off and now he's got his shot.

Then of course you have Chael, Uriah, Sanchez the infamous K Flo but the best name has to be Vera.

Vera's only win that I can remember in the last decade was the fire Marshall (I think the judges gave it to the wrong guy) and he was going to get a shot at JJ had he beat Shogun!
kingsmasher
8/31/12 9:41:33AM
Lets be honest here first....

Aldo has not faced anyone even comparable to Edgar...Aldo has beaten guys with significant short arms...and Hominick who just lost his last two fights..

I know people hate MMA math but BJ Penn would easily beat every guy Aldo has beaten probably with the same outcome...

I have Edgar as the stronger fighter...Better wrestling and make the quick adjustments...People here act like Aldo has some one punch power...He does not IMO....He does wear you down...I think Maynard would flat out kill Aldo...Well it would look like Maynard and Guida....Aldo would run from MAynard...

My worrries are for Frankies first weight cut...and its in Brazil...those two big advantages are huge....
cowcatcher
8/31/12 10:02:22AM

Posted by kingsmasher

Lets be honest here first....

Aldo has not faced anyone even comparable to Edgar...Aldo has beaten guys with significant short arms...and Hominick who just lost his last two fights..

I know people hate MMA math but BJ Penn would easily beat every guy Aldo has beaten probably with the same outcome...

I have Edgar as the stronger fighter...Better wrestling and make the quick adjustments...People here act like Aldo has some one punch power...He does not IMO....He does wear you down...I think Maynard would flat out kill Aldo...Well it would look like Maynard and Guida....Aldo would run from MAynard...

My worrries are for Frankies first weight cut...and its in Brazil...those two big advantages are huge....



Translation: pick Aldo.
NaturalBornKiller92
8/31/12 11:50:54AM

Posted by Chael_Sonnen

Frankie "Kenflo" Edgar

Aldo via DESTRUCTION!



He can't be Kenny Florian if he has won one of his title shots. I can somewhat understand the Faber Florian comparison somewhat because Faber hasn't won a title in the UFC but I wouldn't compare Florian to Edgar.
Twenty20Dollars
8/31/12 12:28:13PM
Injuries are slowly killing my interest in MMA.
FastKnockout
8/31/12 1:40:34PM

Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Injuries are slowly killing my interest in MMA.



You were interested in Aldo vs. Koch?
Twenty20Dollars
8/31/12 1:51:11PM

Posted by FastKnockout


Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Injuries are slowly killing my interest in MMA.



You were interested in Aldo vs. Koch?



No.

But, I'd rather see other guys in the division get the shot. Just wanting it to be fair to them.
GettinsomeBas
8/31/12 2:05:27PM
If Edgar loses thats three lost title fights in a row .. is that a record?
ghandikush
8/31/12 2:11:18PM
Aldo leg kicks?
Twenty20Dollars
8/31/12 2:21:12PM

Posted by GettinsomeBas

If Edgar loses thats three lost title fights in a row .. is that a record?



I think so.

BJ had two in a row.
BuffaloDave
8/31/12 2:43:03PM

Posted by kingsmasher

Lets be honest here first....

People here act like Aldo has some one punch power...He does not IMO....He does wear you down..



What are you being honest about??? That your MMAmath and opinions make people's had spin?

Reason people act like Aldo has punching power, is maybe out of his 21 wins 13 came via KO/TKO.

ghandikush
8/31/12 3:42:32PM

Posted by BuffaloDave


Posted by kingsmasher

Lets be honest here first....

People here act like Aldo has some one punch power...He does not IMO....He does wear you down..



What are you being honest about??? That your MMAmath and opinions make people's had spin?

Reason people act like Aldo has punching power, is maybe out of his 21 wins 13 came via KO/TKO.




aldo at the vey least has as much power as BJ who was the hardest puncher frankie ever fought.
Poor_Franklin
8/31/12 4:24:52PM

Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Injuries are slowly killing my interest in MMA.



i really hate that for you.
ghandikush
8/31/12 4:27:57PM

Posted by Poor_Franklin


Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Injuries are slowly killing my interest in MMA.



i really hate that for you.



Franklinfan47
8/31/12 4:33:12PM
I dont know how people can be disapointed by this replacement. Im much more excited for this fight, no offense to Koch.

If you consider the fact that Edgar arguably beat Bendo, this is an unofficial super fight
Boo_Radley21
8/31/12 4:44:37PM
I guess I like this. Edgar at LW was more fun though. He'll take this one by close decision as usual
Budgellism
8/31/12 4:46:51PM

Posted by Franklinfan47

I dont know how people can be disapointed by this replacement. Im much more excited for this fight, no offense to Koch.

If you consider the fact that Edgar arguably beat Bendo, this is an unofficial super fight



That's how I'm looking at it

Not to mention Edgar is one of my favourite fighters and this is a fight people have wanted for a while now. KZ is out right now and Edgar is coming in on short notice. I don't understand how anyone could be disappointed in this. The fight is only a month and a half away. This is literally the best thing they could have done.
Poor_Franklin
8/31/12 5:11:03PM

Posted by Boo_Radley21

He'll take this one by close decision as usual



he didnt win his last 3 that went to decision
Twenty20Dollars
8/31/12 5:15:15PM

Posted by Poor_Franklin


Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Injuries are slowly killing my interest in MMA.



i really hate that for you.



But, it's true. There are just so many injuries happening now.
Poor_Franklin
8/31/12 6:00:40PM

Posted by Twenty20Dollars


Posted by Poor_Franklin


Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Injuries are slowly killing my interest in MMA.



i really hate that for you.



But, it's true. There are just so many injuries happening now.



there are a lot of injuries, but they aren't killing my interest in the sport.

i would have understood it if you were saying Hendo's injury was killing your interest bc it led to a tailspin that ruined an entire card. This is the exact opposite. this is an injury that led to us getting a dream matchup for many people.

similar scenario:

If Anderson was set to fight Weidman for the MW title & Weidman got hurt & they announced that they had set Rashad Evans as a replacement, I'd be tickled as shit. I wouldn't be worried about Rashad not earning the shot. I'd be happy as hell we get to see 2 arguable top 10 P4P guys go at it!!!!!

Cooler
8/31/12 6:07:19PM

Posted by Bubbles


Posted by Twenty20Dollars

That's crap.

A big slap in the face to everyone else who's been fighting at FW.


so has the judging for LW title fights



He lost the first Bendo fight on my scorecard and all 3 judges and you can't pitter patter your way to a decision hoping you win on points. Frankie screws himself over not trying to finish fights more, ala the 2nd gray fight which was a draw, the two title fights with bendo and even the first fight with BJ which I had him losing to BJ as well.
Twenty20Dollars
8/31/12 7:00:33PM
I want to see the best fights, though. And the injuries are preventing that even more these days. It's irratating.

Not much of a dream fight for me. Last Edgar/Hendo fight was nothing special. It's probably just me, but I've been seeing Edgar too much with all the title rematches.
bjj1605
9/1/12 4:07:38AM
I'm surprised people have a problem with this fight.

Edgar is obviously one of the best fighters in the sport and he hasn't been REALLY beaten. I thought he lost both of the Bendo fights, but they were competitive. It's not like he got dominated or finished and many people thought he won (though I didn't.)

Whether you think he earned it or not, you have to admit this looks to be an exciting match-up.
kingsmasher
9/1/12 7:58:34AM

Posted by BuffaloDave


Posted by kingsmasher

Lets be honest here first....

People here act like Aldo has some one punch power...He does not IMO....He does wear you down..



What are you being honest about??? That your MMAmath and opinions make people's had spin?

Reason people act like Aldo has punching power, is maybe out of his 21 wins 13 came via KO/TKO.




Who were those KOs against? He finished Mendes and who else? Mike Brown who barely beat Nam Phan...
kingsmasher
9/1/12 7:59:35AM

Posted by bjj1605

I'm surprised people have a problem with this fight.

Edgar is obviously one of the best fighters in the sport and he hasn't been REALLY beaten. I thought he lost both of the Bendo fights, but they were competitive. It's not like he got dominated or finished and many people thought he won (though I didn't.)

Whether you think he earned it or not, you have to admit this looks to be an exciting match-up.



U are in the small minority if you think Edgar lost that last fight...
BuffaloDave
9/1/12 12:16:14PM

Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by BuffaloDave


Posted by kingsmasher

Lets be honest here first....

People here act like Aldo has some one punch power...He does not IMO....He does wear you down..



What are you being honest about??? That your MMAmath and opinions make people's had spin?

Reason people act like Aldo has punching power, is maybe out of his 21 wins 13 came via KO/TKO.




Who were those KOs against? He finished Mendes and who else? Mike Brown who barely beat Nam Phan...



Now it seems you want to question the quality of opponents he has KO'd, anyhow here are the people he KO'd,

Mendes, Manny Gamburyan, Mike Brown, Cub Swanson, Chris Mickle, Rolando Perez, Jonathon Brookins, Alexandre Nog, Micky Young, Phil Harris, Aritano Barbosa, Hudson Rocha, Mario Bigola.

Does it really matter, he might not have Ko'd everyone? Look at some of the people he took to decision, Remember Faber's leg?? Ken-Flo another guy who is hard to finish, Homminck fight was one of the only fights Aldo didn't look great in, and he still won that fight convincingly.

bjj1605
9/1/12 2:32:27PM

Posted by kingsmasher


U are in the small minority if you think Edgar lost that last fight...



Nope. Go back and look at the threads and polls about that fight.

Pretty even split actually.
kingsmasher
9/1/12 4:21:59PM

Posted by BuffaloDave


Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by BuffaloDave


Posted by kingsmasher

Lets be honest here first....

People here act like Aldo has some one punch power...He does not IMO....He does wear you down..



What are you being honest about??? That your MMAmath and opinions make people's had spin?

Reason people act like Aldo has punching power, is maybe out of his 21 wins 13 came via KO/TKO.




Who were those KOs against? He finished Mendes and who else? Mike Brown who barely beat Nam Phan...



Now it seems you want to question the quality of opponents he has KO'd, anyhow here are the people he KO'd,

Mendes, Manny Gamburyan, Mike Brown, Cub Swanson, Chris Mickle, Rolando Perez, Jonathon Brookins, Alexandre Nog, Micky Young, Phil Harris, Aritano Barbosa, Hudson Rocha, Mario Bigola.

Does it really matter, he might not have Ko'd everyone? Look at some of the people he took to decision, Remember Faber's leg?? Ken-Flo another guy who is hard to finish, Homminck fight was one of the only fights Aldo didn't look great in, and he still won that fight convincingly.




I really am judging Aldo based on the opponents gameplans....Faber had the worst gameplan in history but Aldo was unknown but Faber would do it again....

For a smart fighter like Florian Aldo was hardly dynamic and Kenny plain cant wrestle....Edgar is very very smart and has the best movement and boxing of any fighter.....Answer me this...When is the last time you saw a brazilian being able to actually be a good boxer?

Technique will beat Aldos speed especially with Edgar and the wrestling threat...
kingsmasher
9/1/12 4:23:53PM

Posted by bjj1605


Posted by kingsmasher


U are in the small minority if you think Edgar lost that last fight...



Nope. Go back and look at the threads and polls about that fight.

Pretty even split actually.




LMAO all the pundits said bad call and my gf who watched the fight picked Henderson in the beginning to win and is not a fan thought Edgar won...Best way to really judge a fight on who actually won is ask somoene who doesnt care about MMA and who watched the fight...

I guess you think Diego really beat Kampmann?
Poor_Franklin
9/1/12 4:57:30PM

Posted by kingsmasher



Best way to really judge a fight on who actually won is ask somoene who doesnt care about MMA




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