TUF 13 Finale - Discussion and Results (spoilers)

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Aether
6/4/11 10:15:28PM
The only fight I've actually gotten wrong was grispi vs roop, but I unfortunately picked the right fighter in the hot bout and the judges disagreed.
kingsmasher
6/4/11 10:17:39PM

Posted by ncordless

I thought Maldonado won rounds 1 and 3 because Maldonado got the better of every one of those clinches after the first one, but regardless it was an awesome fight.


I agree with everyone that Maldonado needs to move down to MW. He would give a lot of those guys problems.



no way Maldonado won the first...i see your point though when in the clinch hes hitting the body but depending on where the judges are and angle theyre at they might not see any of that and just see Kingsbury controlling Maldoando and kneeing him and they cant see Maldonado is blocking most with his arms...

Serioulsy the fight coulda been a draw...but not Maldonado winning
kingsmasher
6/4/11 10:18:52PM
Carwin looks in shape...hes a smart guy..Im picking him...
Aether
6/4/11 10:20:17PM
I'm going to go ahead and guess that these guys are going to gas pretty fast since neither of them have had a fight in close to 2 years.
kingsmasher
6/4/11 10:21:31PM

Posted by Aether

I'm going to go ahead and guess that these guys are going to gas pretty fast since neither of them have had a fight in close to 2 years.



herman and Tim?
kopower
6/4/11 10:23:20PM

Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by ncordless

I thought Maldonado won rounds 1 and 3 because Maldonado got the better of every one of those clinches after the first one, but regardless it was an awesome fight.


I agree with everyone that Maldonado needs to move down to MW. He would give a lot of those guys problems.



no way Maldonado won the first...i see your point though when in the clinch hes hitting the body but depending on where the judges are and angle theyre at they might not see any of that and just see Kingsbury controlling Maldoando and kneeing him and they cant see Maldonado is blocking most with his arms...

Serioulsy the fight coulda been a draw...but not Maldonado winning



This.
Budgellism
6/4/11 10:24:04PM
Not the appropriate thread but Donald Brashear won his mma debut in 21 seconds.
kopower
6/4/11 10:24:41PM
Man, I'm 4-4. I absolutely hate TUF cards.
postman
6/4/11 10:27:31PM

Posted by ncordless

I thought Maldonado won rounds 1 and 3 because Maldonado got the better of every one of those clinches after the first one, but regardless it was an awesome fight.


I agree with everyone that Maldonado needs to move down to MW. He would give a lot of those guys problems.



Thats how I scored it as well. IPicked Kingsberry and had him in my parley and I thought for sure he lost 29-28.
postman
6/4/11 10:30:25PM

Posted by kingsmasher

Carwin looks in shape...hes a smart guy..Im picking him...



I can't get past the fact that not so long ago GG was working Carwin over till he was put to sleep. As good as Carwin looks I have a tough time beliving his Cardio is going to be light years better.
ncordless
6/4/11 10:32:27PM

Posted by kopower


Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by ncordless

I thought Maldonado won rounds 1 and 3 because Maldonado got the better of every one of those clinches after the first one, but regardless it was an awesome fight.


I agree with everyone that Maldonado needs to move down to MW. He would give a lot of those guys problems.



no way Maldonado won the first...i see your point though when in the clinch hes hitting the body but depending on where the judges are and angle theyre at they might not see any of that and just see Kingsbury controlling Maldoando and kneeing him and they cant see Maldonado is blocking most with his arms...

Serioulsy the fight coulda been a draw...but not Maldonado winning



This.



I agree that judges suck, and that I could envision that they would be giving those clinches to Kingsbury, but that doesn't mean he should have won. Maldonado blocked nearly every knee and was landing rib roasters.
Aether
6/4/11 10:33:28PM
damn that's a pretty good way to come back.

second part of my parlay right there.
Aether
6/4/11 10:36:35PM

Posted by ncordless


Posted by kopower


Posted by kingsmasher


Posted by ncordless

I thought Maldonado won rounds 1 and 3 because Maldonado got the better of every one of those clinches after the first one, but regardless it was an awesome fight.


I agree with everyone that Maldonado needs to move down to MW. He would give a lot of those guys problems.



no way Maldonado won the first...i see your point though when in the clinch hes hitting the body but depending on where the judges are and angle theyre at they might not see any of that and just see Kingsbury controlling Maldoando and kneeing him and they cant see Maldonado is blocking most with his arms...

Serioulsy the fight coulda been a draw...but not Maldonado winning



This.



I agree that judges suck, and that I could envision that they would be giving those clinches to Kingsbury, but that doesn't mean he should have won. Maldonado blocked nearly every knee and was landing rib roasters.



Even when you block a knee, you take a pretty good deal of force from them, it's not like they should be considered completely negated. I think he also landed a lot more than you might think, Kingsbury was landing punches when they broke from the clinch pretty frequently as well as a decent amount of kicks and tons of knees. Maldonado definitely did damage with his shots but Kingsbury was landing more frequently and controlling the pace of the fight the whole round.
kopower
6/4/11 10:36:53PM
I agree that Maldonado blocked every one of those knee's. Unfortunately, the judges rarely see this and award the aggression. It seems like the judges are blinded to the counter striking many times. I didn't have a problem, or was surprised with Kingsbury winning the fight though. This is coming from somebody that picked Maldonado.
pmoney
6/4/11 10:41:36PM
This could end up being my worst card ever. 4-5 so far. Lost my parlay on maldonado. (screaming expletives)
kingsmasher
6/4/11 10:42:03PM
is the TUF finale fight last or the guida
Budgellism
6/4/11 10:43:26PM
Wow, I'm shocked. Crazy win for Herman.
kopower
6/4/11 10:44:10PM
The finale I believe is last. I'm right there with ya pmoney. 4-5. My only relief is that I'm doing well in the 2 other fantasy leagues I am in.
Budgellism
6/4/11 10:45:21PM

Posted by pmoney

This could end up being my worst card ever. 4-5 so far. Lost my parlay on maldonado. (screaming expletives)



Same here pmoney. My record is going to **** with this event. Come on Guida, please win or kopower is controlling my avatar.
kingsmasher
6/4/11 10:47:41PM
im hoping guida wins cause then i bet tony wins and thats where all my money lays...real and fake...lol...i could be broke here in an hour
Aether
6/4/11 10:48:11PM
7-2 so far but not great on the finishes. 53 points.
sbulldavid
6/4/11 10:50:03PM
I need a stream if anybody has one
kopower
6/4/11 10:53:16PM
I went with Pettis via 2nd sub. I wouldn't be shocked to see Guida pull out a UD though. I also have 2g's on Pettis to break even on my wagers.
kingsmasher
6/4/11 10:59:24PM
Get him barnacle boy...
kingsmasher
6/4/11 11:01:22PM
Pettis better be in phenomenal shape...guys cant hang with Guidas pace...its just so sick...
postman
6/4/11 11:01:46PM
AP wins round one from his back IMO
kingsmasher
6/4/11 11:03:48PM
People just lose it fighting Guida he wont give any room to you to fight and they get bothered u can see it in there faces...
kingsmasher
6/4/11 11:07:07PM
Guida two rounds up,,,easily
Budgellism
6/4/11 11:07:14PM
2-0 Guida. One more to go baby.
postman
6/4/11 11:08:02PM
Whats a takedown if you don't inflict damage and have to defend sub attempts? Thats two rounds for showtime in my book
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