Travis Lutter: ‘I was a half-inch from breaking Rich Franklin’s arm’ at UFC 83

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SmileR
4/25/08 11:28:19AM

“… I got caught – I haven’t watched the fight yet but some of my buddies told me I got caught with a pretty good punch about 18 seconds in…. I thought I had him. I was really surprised when he was able to roll out. It’s pretty rare for somebody to get out. It’s just one of those things. Golf clap for Rich for getting out…. I was probably a half-inch, maybe even a quarter-inch, from breaking Rich Franklin’s arm. If we played that fight again I think I’ve got a real good shot at beating him. How close was I to getting my arm raised in both those fights? Sometimes luck is … And, I’m not saying that Rich got lucky. I don’t want people sending me hate mail saying I was saying Rich got lucky. I’m just saying I got unlucky.”

The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 4 middleweight winner, Travis Lutter, talks about his technical knockout loss to UFC 83: “Serra vs. St. Pierre 2? on April 19. In addition to discussing the loss, “The Serial Killer” goes in to details about all the unnecessary hate mail he receives for his past two losing performances.


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Full interview here
finnish_line
4/25/08 11:37:34AM


Very unlucky you didn't train cardio to go more than five minutes, Cereal Killer.
GlancyMMA
4/25/08 11:53:43AM
Yeah he totally planned on locking Rich up on the ground in round one... He thought his BJJ would get him the sub win fast....

Gotta always be ready for a 15 minutes battle.... Lutter just didn't come ready....

And F that unlucky "quarter inch" BS.... Rich pulled off an amazing defence on that arm bar... couldn't be more impressed with Franklin.... Having great submission defence is not luck.

Lutter was simply out classes on the ground and beat up on his feet.
crushedbacon
4/25/08 11:58:47AM
Lutter was an out of shape mess....lol. He didn't get unlucky and he didn't get in shape.
SmileR
4/25/08 12:22:00PM
I'd have to disagree with you guys you know.I think regardless of if he gassed or not he'd have lost but i don't think he'd have gassed so quickly if it wasn't for then shots Rich landed.
Lutter ate some good shots in the first an a monster of a head kick early in the second. I'm not saying he could have went the full 15 mins because as everyone knows he doesn't have much of a gas tank, but he did eat some big shots through out that fight. He really needs to work on his stand up and stop relying on his ground game to get the wins he wants.

EDIT: Does anyone have a gif of the head kick i'm talking about?
candynuts
4/25/08 12:30:33PM
Lutter was about a half-second from completely passing out.
Aaronno9
4/25/08 12:32:34PM
Well according to rich he was throwing his arm out to try and bait lutter into taking it becouse he felt he knew he could escape, he said he never thought he was in danger. Rich has got a very under rated ground game imo. I dont think theres anybody in the division he cant at least hang with other than maia. Mabeys almedia aswell but i think his jits is about on par with lutters. Travis needs to stop feeling sorry for himself and thinking hes unlucky, and build up some cardio and striking skills. Then he might be a legit threat. Till then, guys know all they need to do is last the first round and the fights over. Although for some thats easier said than done, theres no denying travis has one hell of a ground game.
AO
4/25/08 12:42:13PM

Posted by Aaronno9

Well according to rich he was throwing his arm out to try and bait lutter into taking it becouse he felt he knew he could escape, he said he never thought he was in danger. Rich has got a very under rated ground game imo. I dont think theres anybody in the division he cant at least hang with other than maia. Mabeys almedia aswell but i think his jits is about on par with lutters. Travis needs to stop feeling sorry for himself and thinking hes unlucky, and build up some cardio and striking skills. Then he might be a legit threat. Till then, guys know all they need to do is last the first round and the fights over. Although for some thats easier said than done, theres no denying travis has one hell of a ground game.



wtf where did you hear that? anyone that would leave their arm out as bait against a bjj blackbelt is a ******* idiot. although franklin has said some dumb shit he's hardly an idiot.

SpiderSilva
4/25/08 12:44:44PM
when he locked on that armlock I jumped out of my seat as I thought YES someone else can beat Franklin then it was like he spun a rubberband as Franklins body just unwinded and from there I knew that there was no way in hell Lutter was gonna Sub Franklin
GlancyMMA
4/25/08 12:49:00PM

wtf where did you hear that? anyone that would leave their arm out as bait against a bjj blackbelt is a ******* idiot. although franklin has said some dumb shit he's hardly an idiot.


No man, that was part of his game plan.

From Lutters tapes Franklins camp knew he has very loose arm bar submissions and a lot of over confidence in his BJJ.

This was an excellent way for Franklin to get the top position. It would have been difficult for Franklin to get off his back when in guard (due to Lutters good ground skills).

This was a good reversal move articulately planned by Franklins camp to gain the advantageous position when dealing with an experienced, overconfident BJJ practioner. Lutter overcommitted to a move he was way to confident he would lock in...

Smart - yet I agree, risky move on Franklins part.
silverbullet
4/25/08 12:52:05PM
I think Lutter broke his hand thats why his lost you can see it between rounds its all swollen
gsquat
4/25/08 12:52:32PM

Posted by Aaronno9

Well according to rich he was throwing his arm out to try and bait lutter into taking it becouse he felt he knew he could escape, he said he never thought he was in danger. Rich has got a very under rated ground game imo. I dont think theres anybody in the division he cant at least hang with other than maia. Mabeys almedia aswell but i think his jits is about on par with lutters. Travis needs to stop feeling sorry for himself and thinking hes unlucky, and build up some cardio and striking skills. Then he might be a legit threat. Till then, guys know all they need to do is last the first round and the fights over. Although for some thats easier said than done, theres no denying travis has one hell of a ground game.



If you're referring to when Rich said, "I was trying to give him a false sense of confidence.", then you didn't understand that Rich was joking. Rich knew he almost got caught. What happens to jujitsu practicioners is when they grapple, they stop when they secure the submission. They don't actually practice applying the pressure that makes somebody tap. Thats what happened. Lutter though that it was enough that he had Rich in that position and that he would tap. Rich didn't Rich turned his arm in the loose armbar and got out.
bullettdodger
4/25/08 1:02:10PM
Rich got out of it.... simply put, back to the drawing board for the Cereal () Killer
Twenty20Dollars
4/25/08 1:02:59PM
Im tired of lutter saying he could beat people if they rematch, i really dont think he could and its just getting annoying to hear him say that crap. Like he can't hang with the contenders with bad cardio, striking and a good ground game isnt going to get him where he wants to be.
Jackelope
4/25/08 2:11:25PM
Train some cardio, show up in shape, and then talk shit Travis Lutter.

I put money on him in a parley cuz the odds were pretty stacked against him and I felt like he stood a decent chance, but he still showed up out of shape. His JJ is pretty good, but he aint got the whole package. I don't doubt he could beat Rich Franklin. If he wants to he better tighten up his takedowns and train that cardio.
Aaronno9
4/25/08 2:42:19PM

Posted by gsquat


Posted by Aaronno9

Well according to rich he was throwing his arm out to try and bait lutter into taking it becouse he felt he knew he could escape, he said he never thought he was in danger. Rich has got a very under rated ground game imo. I dont think theres anybody in the division he cant at least hang with other than maia. Mabeys almedia aswell but i think his jits is about on par with lutters. Travis needs to stop feeling sorry for himself and thinking hes unlucky, and build up some cardio and striking skills. Then he might be a legit threat. Till then, guys know all they need to do is last the first round and the fights over. Although for some thats easier said than done, theres no denying travis has one hell of a ground game.



If you're referring to when Rich said, "I was trying to give him a false sense of confidence.", then you didn't understand that Rich was joking. Rich knew he almost got caught. What happens to jujitsu practicioners is when they grapple, they stop when they secure the submission. They don't actually practice applying the pressure that makes somebody tap. Thats what happened. Lutter though that it was enough that he had Rich in that position and that he would tap. Rich didn't Rich turned his arm in the loose armbar and got out.



Na thats not what im referring to, im referring to an interview he did after the fight where he said his camp had studied the way lutter attempts arm bars and they where confident if he tried to lock one up rich would be able to escape. Im pretty sure anderson had the same plan becouse he managed to get a better position by giving an arm then getting straight out in their fight to.
tsuwrestler157
4/25/08 4:56:01PM
lutter should be cut and sent home he has been giving opportunity after opportunity and he keeps showing that he doesnt f-ing care i dont care if he can mount and submit a bear he is a disgrace to the ufc and basically spit in the face of franklin, dana, and everyone else that wanted a good fight

Mchubb316
4/25/08 4:57:11PM

Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Im tired of lutter saying he could beat people if they rematch, i really dont think he could and its just getting annoying to hear him say that crap. Like he can't hang with the contenders with bad cardio, striking and a good ground game isnt going to get him where he wants to be.



He said something similar about Anderson. Saying that he doesn't think Anderson wants to fight him again, and he would beat him the second time around. Rich schooled him in the stand up and escaped an armbar that looked pretty tight. Lutter is not on the same level as those guys.
jgtribbett
4/25/08 6:25:48PM

Posted by finnish_line



Very unlucky you didn't train cardio to go more than five minutes, Cereal Killer.




wow... hit the nail on the head... bisbing/ mcarthy and bisbing mcarthy 2 (franklin vs lutter)... cardio cardio cardio.. they gave one good shot and almost suceeded.. then they quite... or something who knows


just to note... i edited this to fix spelling.. but screw it.. i can't spell..i know
gamez0932
4/25/08 6:57:24PM
im getting tired of this guy losing and saying he was so close to winning... he said that about silva cause he had silva mounted, fact of the matter is is that he wasnt hurting silva.... anderson was just kickin back waiting for travis to make a mistake and when he did he bucked and got out of that position with the help of lutter going for that sloppy armbar....now with franklin hes saying he was a half inch from breaking his arm, how could he be suprised that rich rolled outta it when he didnt have that top leg seccured over franklins head which gave franklin the room to roll, his mistake... he wont beat franklin if he fought him once twice or even three times more, franklins cardio is better and imo he is just a better fighter.
GSPCanada
4/25/08 9:07:25PM
He did come close both times, I'll give him that and none of us should deny how he came alot closer than any other ufc fighter to beating him. The fact that he came so close is the reason he gets a top competitor like Rich Franklin. In the end its going to get drawn up as a loss for him, the fact that he came so close to beating franklin will give him another top competitor, but almost winning can result in a 3 fight losing streak and second exit for travis lutter. I don't hate the guy but he needs to train stand up, cardio, and better takedown attempts
SpiderSilva
4/26/08 12:33:39AM


Maybe Lutter didn't want to break Franklins arm thats why there wasnt enough pressure on the arm that might be what have costed him
MMAcca
4/26/08 1:26:29AM
Shoulda, woulda, coulda......blah, blah, blah



Hasn't he made excuses like this before.

He was beaten by a better fighter with a better gameplan and the actual will to win. End of.
skatenate
4/28/08 12:11:51AM
lutter should shut the hell up. what a douche.
Ben_Hutch
4/28/08 12:59:18PM
All Lutter ever does is say "If i fought him again i could beat him." Well you lost so get over it you prick.
MMAcca
4/28/08 1:46:44PM
It was a good decision to cut him from the UFC imo because of his bad attitude, lack of dedication towards training, conditioning etc.......
TOMMYAYO05
5/22/08 10:13:27PM
That he did come close but still did not win..i give him creditf for putting up such great fights and two close victories against the baddest man on the planet anderson silva and a top three middleweight fighter rich franklin.im very suprised he was cut.
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