Tim Sylvia can be a title contender and beat 80-percent of the heavyweights in the UFC

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pmoney
2/14/12 9:34:20PM
Former Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) Heavyweight Champion Tim Sylvia is doing a little bit of campaigning asking for fans help to get him back into the ranks of the UFC. "The Maniac" took to "The Underground" to post this video asking for fans support for his "push" to get back into the world's largest mixed martial (MMA) promotion, a place he called home for more than six years before he was sent packing after a loss to Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira at UFC 81.

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ncordless
2/14/12 9:41:03PM
80% of the HWs? Maybe. He'd lose to the top guys there, but I think he could hang with the 2nd tier guys, and would still whip up on the scrubs.

Title contender? No. He would not be competitive in any kind of match that would lead to a title shot.
Kpro
2/14/12 9:43:56PM
I'm not a fan of Tim at all, but I'd love to see him back in the UFC, maybe for nostalgic reasons. That loss on the JMMA NYE show really hurt his stock though. I'll join the campaign.
hotrodttt
2/14/12 9:45:19PM
If he didn't turn into the jab master in his fights then he'd be a whole lot more exciting, why not give it to him though? Like he said, Sean McKorkel fought in the UFC and Tim would work him.
Budgellism
2/14/12 9:48:19PM
80%
TeamDEY
2/14/12 10:00:07PM
Don't do Crack
mattjonesy
2/14/12 10:00:46PM
Give him a shot why not? guys a vet and could be used to push new talent anyway!
jae_1833
2/14/12 10:27:44PM
Weird, I see him getting koed or out grappled by most. Plus before I support him, he would have to get and stay in much better shape.
Budgellism
2/14/12 10:33:19PM

Posted by jae_1833

Weird, I see him getting koed or out grappled by most. Plus before I support him, he would have to get and stay in much better shape.



Exactly. He's been under 300 pounds what, once since his loss to Fedor? He was also knocked out by Ray Mercer and Abe Wagner in a combined 41 seconds and hasn't been exciting in a number of years. No thanks Tim.
Kpro
2/14/12 10:40:09PM

Posted by Budgellism


Posted by jae_1833

Weird, I see him getting koed or out grappled by most. Plus before I support him, he would have to get and stay in much better shape.



Exactly. He's been under 300 pounds what, once since his loss to Fedor? He was also knocked out by Ray Mercer and Abe Wagner in a combined 41 seconds and hasn't been exciting in a number of years. No thanks Tim.




But he's sponsored by Lean Body.
Bubbles
2/14/12 10:59:42PM
80% is probably a bit high, 65-70% imo is more accurate.

Nelson vs Sylvia, book it. If Nelson cant beat Timmeh then he isnt UFC material anymore. Timmeh gets his UFC fight, and if he loses he gets pink slipped again. Pretty straight forward if you ask me
deck15
2/14/12 11:06:51PM

Posted by hotrodttt

If he didn't turn into the jab master in his fights then he'd be a whole lot more exciting, why not give it to him though? Like he said, Sean McKorkel fought in the UFC and Tim would work him.



Id take that bet Mckorkel would work him over. dude is a beast he just chokedin the UFC. now hes fighting cans because local shows offer him 15k to do so.
Sir_Karl
2/15/12 12:12:10AM
Just like the fans, the UFC seems to also have this odd and unjustified hatred of Tim Sylvia. While I think Tim would get trashed by the UFC's top HWs....I think he does deserve another shot in the UFC. He has gone 6-3 since his time away from the Octagon and while they weren't top opponents, any other fighter would have already been re signed. I think Tim could fare okay against the bottom tier guys in the UFC's HW field and if he was matched up properly I think he could win 3 or 4 in a row. Undoubtedly he would eventually get smoked, and maybe the UFC would allow one loss or maybe two losses before they cut him again, but he could at least get a crack at it. This happens all of the time in the UFC.Guys come in, they win a couple then lose a couple, get cut, get a few wins in the minors then get resigned by the UFC. Why should it be any different in Tim Sylvia's case?? It shouldn't. I say the UFC should resign him. Either way, he was a big star and he is still a decent drawing tool...I don't think the UFC could go wrong in resigning him...unless of course he gets crushed within the first 30 seconds of hist first fight. That would totally suck for everyone. Seriously though, the UFC has over 30 heavyweights right now. There are plenty of match ups that might be good for Sylvia to start with. Here are some of the lower and middle tier guys in the HW division that could be possible matchups for Tim... Lavar Johnson, Shawn Jordan, Mark Hunt, John Olav Einemo, Gabe Gonzaga, Rob Broughton, Christian Morecraft, Roy Nelson, Ben Rothwell, Brendan Schaub, Oli Thompson, Ednaldo Oliveira, Phil De Fries and maybe even Matt Mitrione and Pat Barry. There is also Travis Browne, Chad Griggs, Dave Herman and Stipe Moicic. There are more than a few good matchups for Tim to start with. Do it up. I think it is a little pathetic of Tim to almost beg to come back to the UFC though. He should have thought out his gameplan a little bit better. Bellator might be a good place for him if his pathetic plea falls on deaf or unwilling ears.
loonytnt
2/15/12 12:27:56AM
all he has to do is run then leg lick and he will beat 80% of the ppl right?
lohmann
2/15/12 12:29:46AM

Posted by Sir_Karl

Just like the fans, the UFC seems to also have this odd and unjustified hatred of Tim Sylvia.



Unjustified, probably; odd, no. It's good business practice to distance the business from the champion that lost to what was the UFC's greatest hold-out, Fedor Emelianenko, and some old boxer, especially during that time - when the whole question of the athletic validity of the sport was still unanswered.

Also, he did Blind Date.

I would not mind seeing Sylvia back in the UFC. This is the most talent-starved division in the sport, and if Gabriel Gonzaga was welcomed back, why not the longest-reigning HW champion the UFC has had? Plus, did you see that Russow-Einemo fight?

On a side note, this is the first time I've seen a fighter with the accolades of a Tim Sylvia actually admit he would lose. Nobody else would handicap themselves at anything less than perfection.
RhythmAndStyle
2/15/12 2:08:24AM
are u guys serious, u cant be..even Sylvia doesnt take himself serious..look how outta shape he gotten himself in to..he'll lose to a guy like Pat Barry, and Barry mid tier imho..if u cant beat Barry u dont belong in the ufc
BeeR
2/15/12 5:57:17AM
11-14%
Bubbles
2/15/12 6:01:58AM
how many times has Tim Hauge been cut and resigned since Sylvia's been gone?

bring Sylvia back
airkerma
2/15/12 6:44:34AM
Nice looks like my business trip to maine is perfectly timed as it will be the perfect place for the rebirth of the maineiac except he will need to don a new name like the peoples maniac
prozacnation1978
2/15/12 7:43:31AM
Get your weight in control. I wouldn't mind seeing timmy get knocked out a few times. If he loses his first two fights he won't get a third.
warglory
2/15/12 7:45:07AM
The article has it wrong I believe. Tim Sylvia left the company, he wasn't fired.
emfleek
2/15/12 8:34:01AM

Posted by warglory

Tim Sylvia left the company, he wasn't fired.



That's how I remember it, too. He jumped ship to Affliction for $$$.


Early in 2008, Sylvia requested and was granted a release from his UFC contract, which still had one fight remaining on it. Sylvia cited unhappiness with pay, desire to face Fedor Emelianenko, the non-exclusive contracts of other organizations, and the opportunity to fight more often as his reasons for leaving.


And I say bring him back just so he stops flooding my f'ing Twitter timeline with his retweets to Dana about getting back in the UFC. He's doing everything but getting down on his knees to beg.

cowcatcher
2/15/12 9:45:24AM
Here's part of Timmeh's quote:

I can beat 80 percent of the guys in the UFC. If you don't think I can, how about you make a push and try to get me into the UFC just to see me get my ass kicked.

I like the fact that he's trying to use the fans' dislike for him as a tool to get back in, good move. I don't like an athlete saying he would lose to 20% of the guys out there. The honesty(or at least his honest opinion) is refreshing, but it shows a definite lack of confidence in a sport where lacking confidence can get you hurt up.
grappler0000
2/15/12 11:00:17AM

Posted by cowcatcher

Here's part of Timmeh's quote:

I can beat 80 percent of the guys in the UFC. If you don't think I can, how about you make a push and try to get me into the UFC just to see me get my ass kicked.

I like the fact that he's trying to use the fans' dislike for him as a tool to get back in, good move. I don't like an athlete saying he would lose to 20% of the guys out there. The honesty(or at least his honest opinion) is refreshing, but it shows a definite lack of confidence in a sport where lacking confidence can get you hurt up.



I would normally agree. I think to say that he could beat "everyone" in the UFC at this point, would be a far worse statement for him to make. People would brush that off and the statement that follows, but what he said is actually making people stop and think whether that's an accurate estimation. I think he knew he had to show some sign of humility in order for the video to have any impact whatsoever. It's a means to an end for him, rather than a lack of confidence IMO.
prophecy033
2/15/12 11:01:13AM
Oh Tim, stop it. You can't even control your weight
tn_rebel
2/15/12 11:04:58AM
This is ridiculous... might as well bring back Ken Shamrock and Dan Severn too... hell throw in Bob Sapp and Hong Man Choi and we'll have us a battle royal
prophecy033
2/15/12 2:21:59PM

Posted by tn_rebel

This is ridiculous... might as well bring back Ken Shamrock and Dan Severn too... hell throw in Bob Sapp and Hong Man Choi and we'll have us a battle royal

cue Kpro
prophecy033
2/15/12 2:25:41PM

Posted by emfleek

And I say bring him back just so he stops flooding my f'ing Twitter timeline with his retweets to Dana about getting back in the UFC. He's doing everything but getting down on his knees to blow

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tallica62
2/15/12 2:58:29PM
No he can't. End of discussion.
OnyxShadow
2/15/12 3:16:01PM
No way he beats anyone in the top 10, and he has no chance at being a title contender. He's not bad, but he's been exposed. The reason the UFC won't take him back is because he'll want too much money considering how mediocre he's proven himself to be. He's simply not worth a 50k+ payday.
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