My thoughts on Cung Le VS Wanderlei Silva..
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My thoughts on Cung Le VS Wanderlei Silva..
Cadillac
11/15/11 11:13:36PM
I'll get straight to it. Wanderleis record shows that he dosn't fare to well with great strikers, and if his last fight is any indicator of how his chin is then I believe he's going to be knocked out in the first round. Unless Wanderlei clinches the hell out of Cung Le or Cung Le gets really clumsy again, but based on some of the recent training videos i've seen of Cung Le, i'd be trying to take him to the ground ASAP...which 99% more than likely we won't see. I believe even if Wanderlei tries to get the clinch in Cung Le will use his kicks to keep him at a distance and pick him off. Your thoughts?
Twenty20Dollars
11/15/11 11:49:48PM
Idk Wandy's gameplan and Idk what to expect from a 39 Cung Le.
I think the windmill or flury would work better for Wandy against Cung Le than it did against Leben.
I'll be picking Wandy though.
I think the windmill or flury would work better for Wandy against Cung Le than it did against Leben.
I'll be picking Wandy though.
prophecy033
11/16/11 12:02:37AM
I think Le will catch him
kopower
11/16/11 12:02:40AM
Cung should try and use his technical striking skills against Wandy. I don't think he'll want to get into a slugfest, even with Silva's lack of chin. I'm not sure how well Cung can take a punch, but he sure as hell doesn't want to test his chin against a Wandy haymaker.
In Silva's fight with Leben, Chris didn't mind trading some shots, because he had the chin to withstand a few blows, and the power to shut Silva's lights out. It was a bad gameplan from Silva. Hopefully this fight, Silva will play it a bit safer and choose his shots wisely. I would love to see him take Cung down a few times and tire him out. That's not Wandy's style, so Im guessing one of them gets ko'd in round one. Just hope it's Le's lights that go out.
In Silva's fight with Leben, Chris didn't mind trading some shots, because he had the chin to withstand a few blows, and the power to shut Silva's lights out. It was a bad gameplan from Silva. Hopefully this fight, Silva will play it a bit safer and choose his shots wisely. I would love to see him take Cung down a few times and tire him out. That's not Wandy's style, so Im guessing one of them gets ko'd in round one. Just hope it's Le's lights that go out.
Chael_Sonnen
11/16/11 12:55:09AM
Wandy will have to visit the Dentista immediately following another loss.
tcunningham
11/16/11 3:27:21AM
i want to see wandy win but i think le will KO wandy. probably early too.
Lesnar1
11/16/11 6:10:42AM
Cung wins by rd 1 ko.
emfleek
11/16/11 9:07:14AM
My thoughts?
History is an indicator. Wandy will lose.
Le via R1 TKO.
History is an indicator. Wandy will lose.
Le via R1 TKO.
warglory
11/16/11 9:48:35AM
I said it once, I'll say it again. Wandy via rape choke punchfest. Cung is going to get destroyed in this fight.
gartface
11/16/11 9:53:10AM
Posted by emfleek
My thoughts?
History is an indicator. Wandy will lose.
Le via R1 TKO.
My thoughts exactly. And if there is anyone who is going to be taking the other down, I think it'll be Le taking Wandy down.
postman
11/16/11 11:25:23AM
Who has LE ever beat? Frank Shamrock a split with Scott Smith. Not really top fighters. Now granted Wandy is on the down side and wouldn't be shocked if he did get knocked out but I have to favor Wandy on the shear fact that Le has never fought anyone like him. Also 6-26-10 we are talking a year and a half since Cung has seen any action. I have to tak Wand.
emfleek
11/16/11 11:50:21AM
Posted by postman
Who has LE ever beat? Frank Shamrock a split with Scott Smith. Not really top fighters. Now granted Wandy is on the down side and wouldn't be shocked if he did get knocked out but I have to favor Wandy on the shear fact that Le has never fought anyone like him.
At this point, I don't think resumes mean a whole lot. Le is certainly capable of finishing Wandy (and IMO, likely will). In fact, at this point in Wandy's career, he's likely to drop when the vaseline is being rubbed on his face prior to entering the cage.
Seriously, though...I promised myself I'd never pick Wandy to win against another striker after Leben embarassed him. I'm sticking to my guns on this. I don't think it lasts a whole lot longer than the Leben fight did. I think Le stands for a bit before taking him down and pounding him out. Another brutal TKO loss for Wanderlei and his last fight inside the octagon.
Posted by postman
Also 6-26-10 we are talking a year and a half since Cung has seen any action. I have to tak Wand.
Wandy's seen 27 seconds of action since February of 2010.
Geoffo
11/16/11 5:29:56PM
Posted by emfleek
Posted by postman
Who has LE ever beat? Frank Shamrock a split with Scott Smith. Not really top fighters. Now granted Wandy is on the down side and wouldn't be shocked if he did get knocked out but I have to favor Wandy on the shear fact that Le has never fought anyone like him.
At this point, I don't think resumes mean a whole lot. Le is certainly capable of finishing Wandy (and IMO, likely will). In fact, at this point in Wandy's career, he's likely to drop when the vaseline is being rubbed on his face prior to entering the cage.
Seriously, though...I promised myself I'd never pick Wandy to win against another striker after Leben embarassed him. I'm sticking to my guns on this. I don't think it lasts a whole lot longer than the Leben fight did. I think Le stands for a bit before taking him down and pounding him out. Another brutal TKO loss for Wanderlei and his last fight inside the octagon.
Posted by postman
Also 6-26-10 we are talking a year and a half since Cung has seen any action. I have to tak Wand.
Wandy's seen 27 seconds of action since February of 2010.
And he doesn't remember it.
shaneTpain
11/16/11 7:12:02PM
Cung Le . 1st rd. KO
Cung is too swift for Wandis pride style ........but if some how some way.... Wandi was to catch Cung with one of those caveman haymakers, ill be the first on my feet with a tear in my eye
Cung is too swift for Wandis pride style ........but if some how some way.... Wandi was to catch Cung with one of those caveman haymakers, ill be the first on my feet with a tear in my eye
sbulldavid
11/16/11 8:55:50PM
I'm a huge fan of both but I'm picking Le just because the history of guys who've lost their chin is not good against strikers with reasonable striking power.
kopower
11/16/11 9:15:03PM
Posted by shaneTpain
Cung Le . 1st rd. KO
Cung is too swift for Wandis pride style ........but if some how some way.... Wandi was to catch Cung with one of those caveman haymakers, ill be the first on my feet with a tear in my eye
This. I have an AV bet with jjeans, and I think I'm picking Le to win. Wandy winning by ko will only make it that much sweeter for me
postman
11/17/11 1:43:14AM
Posted by emfleek
Posted by postman
Who has LE ever beat? Frank Shamrock a split with Scott Smith. Not really top fighters. Now granted Wandy is on the down side and wouldn't be shocked if he did get knocked out but I have to favor Wandy on the shear fact that Le has never fought anyone like him.
At this point, I don't think resumes mean a whole lot. Le is certainly capable of finishing Wandy (and IMO, likely will). In fact, at this point in Wandy's career, he's likely to drop when the vaseline is being rubbed on his face prior to entering the cage.
Seriously, though...I promised myself I'd never pick Wandy to win against another striker after Leben embarassed him. I'm sticking to my guns on this. I don't think it lasts a whole lot longer than the Leben fight did. I think Le stands for a bit before taking him down and pounding him out. Another brutal TKO loss for Wanderlei and his last fight inside the octagon.
Posted by postman
Also 6-26-10 we are talking a year and a half since Cung has seen any action. I have to tak Wand.
Wandy's seen 27 seconds of action since February of 2010.
For what ever reason I feel Wand has been training Cung not so sure. I think I said it wouldn't shock me if Cung lost but I have never been too sold on Cung he just never fought anyone.
emfleek
11/17/11 8:51:21AM
Posted by postman
For what ever reason I feel Wand has been training Cung not so sure. I think I said it wouldn't shock me if Cung lost but I have never been too sold on Cung he just never fought anyone.
Cung's fighting in front of his home crowd in San Jose. I guarantee he's training.
armbar66j7
11/17/11 10:37:36PM
wnadys chances to win...opening up with a flurry and getting the stoppage
les chances to win...picking wandy apart for 3 rounds, i see this fight going much similar to the the first smith fight, except i see le being more cautious...but thatsn thing though, scott smith has a shit load of heart, wandys heart has been in question for me for about 4 years now, he just doesnt seem like he wants it anymore, so i can never tell which wandy will show up, haha, which is kinda funny, who does that remind you of...bj penn perhaps
les chances to win...picking wandy apart for 3 rounds, i see this fight going much similar to the the first smith fight, except i see le being more cautious...but thatsn thing though, scott smith has a shit load of heart, wandys heart has been in question for me for about 4 years now, he just doesnt seem like he wants it anymore, so i can never tell which wandy will show up, haha, which is kinda funny, who does that remind you of...bj penn perhaps
armbar66j7
11/17/11 10:43:22PM
Posted by postman
Posted by emfleek
Posted by postman
Who has LE ever beat? Frank Shamrock a split with Scott Smith. Not really top fighters. Now granted Wandy is on the down side and wouldn't be shocked if he did get knocked out but I have to favor Wandy on the shear fact that Le has never fought anyone like him.
At this point, I don't think resumes mean a whole lot. Le is certainly capable of finishing Wandy (and IMO, likely will). In fact, at this point in Wandy's career, he's likely to drop when the vaseline is being rubbed on his face prior to entering the cage.
Seriously, though...I promised myself I'd never pick Wandy to win against another striker after Leben embarassed him. I'm sticking to my guns on this. I don't think it lasts a whole lot longer than the Leben fight did. I think Le stands for a bit before taking him down and pounding him out. Another brutal TKO loss for Wanderlei and his last fight inside the octagon.
Posted by postman
Also 6-26-10 we are talking a year and a half since Cung has seen any action. I have to tak Wand.
Wandy's seen 27 seconds of action since February of 2010.
For what ever reason I feel Wand has been training Cung not so sure. I think I said it wouldn't shock me if Cung lost but I have never been too sold on Cung he just never fought anyone.
thats a common misconception, you cant base someones individual skill on who theyve fought and beatencung le could knock out wandy anyday, and then his next fight, get sloppy and lose to...lets say...john salter, anyone can beat anyone on any given night, and saying your not sold on someone because of hos lackluster opponents is retarded, i gaurentee youve heard of at least 6 of cungs 7 opponents before they foiught him, just because tony fryklund isnt anderson silvs, doesnt mean he isnt a a great win...and that is all for now haha
KungFuMaster
11/18/11 1:08:03AM
I should have saved my money for this card. This card is much easier for picks and wagers.
Aether
11/19/11 2:52:24AM
I'm pretty surprised by some of the comments in here. Since when does getting KOed by guys like Rampage and Leben mean you have a glass jaw?
I'm taking Cung, but I don't think this is nearly as big of a blowout as most of you are making it out to be. Cung isn't exactly the kind of striker who one-shots people like Rampage and Leben have been known to do very frequently, he grinds people down with a lot of unorthodox kicks from the outside and gets his finishes usually in the later rounds of the fight from a ton of accumulated damage.
Wandy went to war with Liddell and Franklin and absorbed a ton of damage, I don't think his chin is nearly as suspect as people are making it out to be.
I'm taking Cung, but I don't think this is nearly as big of a blowout as most of you are making it out to be. Cung isn't exactly the kind of striker who one-shots people like Rampage and Leben have been known to do very frequently, he grinds people down with a lot of unorthodox kicks from the outside and gets his finishes usually in the later rounds of the fight from a ton of accumulated damage.
Wandy went to war with Liddell and Franklin and absorbed a ton of damage, I don't think his chin is nearly as suspect as people are making it out to be.
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