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grappler0000
12/4/07 11:22:49AM
The Texas Department of Licensing and Regulations announced Monday that its review of an Oct. 20 mixed martial arts show in which a fighter was seriously injured and later died showed the event was conducted in compliance with all regulating procedures.
The aftermath of the Oct. 20 Renegades Extreme Fighting Championship show at the Toyota Center in Houston culminated in tragedy on Friday with the death of 35-year-old fighter Sammy Vasquez.
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The aftermath of the Oct. 20 Renegades Extreme Fighting Championship show at the Toyota Center in Houston culminated in tragedy on Friday with the death of 35-year-old fighter Sammy Vasquez.
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CornishMMA
12/4/07 11:31:56AM
Hmmm well thats kind of bad news, if there was mess up where they should of spotted something like a blood clot then it could just be chalked up to a commission error, but if it turns out there was nothing wrong with him and this could have happened to anyone then its bad for the sport (but still shouldnt be when compared to other sports deaths stats)
moob
12/4/07 11:42:04AM
Posted by CornishMMA
Hmmm well thats kind of bad news, if there was mess up where they should of spotted something like a blood clot then it could just be chalked up to a commission error, but if it turns out there was nothing wrong with him and this could have happened to anyone then its bad for the sport (but still shouldnt be when compared to other sports deaths stats)
Genuine question here.
How could the commission doctor diagnose a blood clot through routine medical checks?
silverbullet
12/4/07 12:23:38PM
It seems like a case where it's impossible to point a finger at somebody. Unfortunately, shit happens.
My prayers are with Sammy and his family. This tragic incident should in no way affect the MMA as a whole. Statistics don't lie, and fighters probably have a better chance of dying in a car crash while driving to the event, than during the bout itself.
My prayers are with Sammy and his family. This tragic incident should in no way affect the MMA as a whole. Statistics don't lie, and fighters probably have a better chance of dying in a car crash while driving to the event, than during the bout itself.
babytater03
12/4/07 12:50:04PM
i like statistics when formulating an opinion. And to give credibility to anyone who says MMA is a deadly sport should look at some of the stats of 'similar' sports. May God be with Sammy's family, but MMA just doesn't seem to like it would be that deadly especially when MMA news is overrun with a story like this when it does happen. (If that makes sense...)
in other words, if this is even such an arguement as to the danger of MMA, that to me proves that it's not a 'deadly' sport and that as SILVERBULLET said, Shit happens. it's unfortunate and i dont wish it on anyone, but things like this happen when your job is a sport.
in other words, if this is even such an arguement as to the danger of MMA, that to me proves that it's not a 'deadly' sport and that as SILVERBULLET said, Shit happens. it's unfortunate and i dont wish it on anyone, but things like this happen when your job is a sport.
EvilScott
12/4/07 1:42:49PM
The two most important pieces of this article:
"The cause of death has not been released, but if it was determined to be fight-related, it would be the first mixed martial arts death in North America in the 14-year history of the sport."
"The Department did not address whether it was appropriate for Vasquez, who had two career matches and had not competed in more than a year, to be matched up with Libardi, who was 14 years his junior and had seven career matches."
"The cause of death has not been released, but if it was determined to be fight-related, it would be the first mixed martial arts death in North America in the 14-year history of the sport."
"The Department did not address whether it was appropriate for Vasquez, who had two career matches and had not competed in more than a year, to be matched up with Libardi, who was 14 years his junior and had seven career matches."
CornishMMA
12/7/07 12:35:07PM
Posted by moob
Posted by CornishMMA
Hmmm well thats kind of bad news, if there was mess up where they should of spotted something like a blood clot then it could just be chalked up to a commission error, but if it turns out there was nothing wrong with him and this could have happened to anyone then its bad for the sport (but still shouldnt be when compared to other sports deaths stats)
Genuine question here.
How could the commission doctor diagnose a blood clot through routine medical checks?
Well obviously they dont do MRI scans etc but they should do imo, but a possible would be if it was on his medical records but they missed it, that was my genuine answer
moob
12/8/07 7:27:21AM
Posted by CornishMMA
Posted by moob
Posted by CornishMMA
Hmmm well thats kind of bad news, if there was mess up where they should of spotted something like a blood clot then it could just be chalked up to a commission error, but if it turns out there was nothing wrong with him and this could have happened to anyone then its bad for the sport (but still shouldnt be when compared to other sports deaths stats)
Genuine question here.
How could the commission doctor diagnose a blood clot through routine medical checks?
Well obviously they dont do MRI scans etc but they should do imo, but a possible would be if it was on his medical records but they missed it, that was my genuine answer
Well, they've never carried out MRI scans for boxing etc, as they would be too expensive. They didn't know about the fact he had a pre-existing condition, as the fighter apparently didn't know he had it either - so it follows he wouldn't have it in my medical records either.
jgtribbett
12/8/07 9:50:22AM
hey couldnt but when the doctors did the mri and ct scan , they would have picked it up and found out why it was there and when it happend
the doctors could decipher wiether the condition was pre-existing or result of the fight
the doctors could decipher wiether the condition was pre-existing or result of the fight
moob
12/8/07 10:39:04AM
Posted by metal_mecca43
hey couldnt but when the doctors did the mri and ct scan , they would have picked it up and found out why it was there and when it happend
the doctors could decipher wiether the condition was pre-existing or result of the fight
AFAIK, the they already released the information that the blood clot was there before the fight. BUT, he had more clots after the fight, causing seizures and a number of heart attacks.
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