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chuck-da-iceman
6/11/07 9:26:38AM
hey guys, i was talkin a few buddys of mine that think there true ufc fans and i was wonderin what do u think is the best way to test these wannabes. I think if you can name 5 fighters off the top of your head out of each weight class, you can call your self a fan
Mastodon2
6/11/07 10:16:27AM
I dont think the "true" fans should need to use abitrary tests to define who is a true fan or not. If you love the sport, let it be your passion, if someone can hang with top level discussion with you then they are probably a dedicated fan too, but really it dont matter.

And really, Im more interested in meeting and talking to MMA fans, as opposed to just UFC fans
Stickan
6/11/07 10:24:18AM

Posted by Mastodon2

I dont think the "true" fans should need to use abitrary tests to define who is a true fan or not. If you love the sport, let it be your passion, if someone can hang with top level discussion with you then they are probably a dedicated fan too, but really it dont matter.

And really, Im more interested in meeting and talking to MMA fans, as opposed to just UFC fans



Good answer.
Are there actually UFC-fan-wannabes!? Sounds crazy.

I'm just glad there are MMA fans to share thoughts with. Most fans aren't as hardcore as me but it doesn't really matter. You can't bash on somebody for being less or more interested than you about something..
AchillesHeel
6/11/07 10:47:42AM

Posted by chuck-da-iceman

hey guys, i was talkin a few buddys of mine that think there true ufc fans and i was wonderin what do u think is the best way to test these wannabes. I think if you can name 5 fighters off the top of your head out of each weight class, you can call your self a fan


I suppose a knowledgeable fan is, ipso facto, a "true" fan, but I wouldn't say the reverse is necessarily true. New fans aren't lesser fans, imho.

To me, a measure of a "true" MMA/UFC fan is not if they know the non-"name" fighters, but whether they'll watch the non-"name" fighters. People who go to a bar or a party and ignore all of the fights before the Main Event are casual fans (nothing wrong with being a casual fan, either).
nubby
6/11/07 11:04:53AM
I know UFC pretty well but I wouldn't be able to name 5 people in every weight division. I mainly follow the people I care about. As for pride, well I could barely name a handfull of fighters from there. I think it's mainly because I didn't really care for pride.
JBatch
6/11/07 12:49:10PM
I am what you would call a hardcore fan, I could probably name 20 fighters in each weight division off the top of my head (I know it is sad). I personally like to watch UFC's with people who are knowlegeable about MMA, a person who can identify when a suubmission artist is setting up a certain sub etc or how a striker is working the body to open up a head shot.

The only people I am not interested in watching UFC's with are people who are either racist, too nationalistic or have no interest in MMA but would rather just get shitfaced.

A true MMA fan is respectful, classy and understands we are not watching boxing and a slick submission is just as good as a clean KO.
kaduey
6/11/07 2:36:56PM

Posted by nubby

I know UFC pretty well but I wouldn't be able to name 5 people in every weight division. I mainly follow the people I care about. As for pride, well I could barely name a handfull of fighters from there. I think it's mainly because I didn't really care for pride.



No offence but if you can't name five fighters in each division of the UFC then you don't know the UFC pretty well.

I think a true pure mma fan is someone who doesn't miss an event unless a family member has died, or if they here someone mention an mma event, they break out into intense discussions.
loller90278
6/11/07 2:42:10PM

Posted by nubby

I know UFC pretty well but I wouldn't be able to name 5 people in every weight division. I mainly follow the people I care about. As for pride, well I could barely name a handfull of fighters from there. I think it's mainly because I didn't really care for pride.



thats cuz you're a tito ortiz fan, not an mma or ufc fan

(noob.)
nubby
6/11/07 4:15:03PM
Ok let me try without Getting any help in no particular order:

Sean Sherk
Sean Salmon
Joe Louzoun (SP?)
Nick Diaz
Nate Diaz
Karo Parysian
Michael Bisbing
Elvis Sinisoic (SP?)
Jens Pulver (moving to WEC I know)
Matt Hughes
BJ Penn
Matt Serra
Georges St Pierre
Lyoto (SP?) Machida
Rich Franklin
Yushin Okami
Anderson Silva
Jason Mc Donald
Tito Ortiz
Chuck Liddell
Quinton Jackson
Randy Couture
Tim Sylvia
Mirko Filipovic
Gabriel Gonzaga
Andre Arlovski
Ed Herman
Kendall Grove
Mauricio Rua (Soon)
Matt Hammill
Rashad Evans
Forrest Griffin
Keithe Jardine
Houston Alexander
Cheik Congo
Diego Sanchez
Josh Koschek
Kenny Florian
Sam Stout
Spencer Fisher
Kalib Starnes
David heath
Heath Herring
Chris Lytle
Nathan Marquedt (SP?)
Josh Haynes


Ok thats it I can't think of anymore.
szucconi
6/11/07 4:33:02PM
would you like then in alphabetical order? (as listed on the web site)
Some of them are not currently with UFC, but the have been.

Danny  Abbadi 
Houston  Alexander 
Thiago  Alves 
Andrei  Arlovski 
Junior  Assuncao 
Phil  Baroni 
Alan   Belcher 
Vitor  Belfort 
Michael  Bisping 
Jason  Black 
Mark  Bocek 
Stephan  Bonnar 
Wander  Braga 
Mike  Brown 
Steve  Bruno 
Paul  Buentello 
Josh   Burkman 
Steve  Byrnes 
Roan  Carneiro 
Shonie  Carter 
Luke  Caudillo 
Ansar  Chalangov 
Dan  Christison 
Logan  Clark 
Rich  Clementi 
Wes  Combs 
Kit  Cope 
Patrick  Cote 
Randy  Couture 
Jeff  Cox 
Mirko  Cro Cop 
Edilberto  Crocota 
Marcio  Cruz 
Luke  Cummo 
Rick  Davis 
Marcus  Davis 
Jason   Dent 
Tony  DeSouza 
Edwin  Dewees 
Nick  Diaz 
Joe  Doerksen 
Marvin  Eastman 
Frank  Edgar 
Yves  Edwards 
Justin  Eilers 
Terry  Etim 
Rashad  Evans 
Drew  Fickett 
Luigi  Fioravanti 
Spencer  Fisher 
Jon  Fitch 
Kenny  Florian 
Jesse  Forbes 
Hermes  Franca 
Rich  Franklin 
Ian  Freeman 
Sean  Gannon 
Leonard  Garcia 
Jason  Gilliam 
Gabriel  Gonzaga 
Jonathan   Goulet 
Wilson  Gouveia 
Royce  Gracie 
Matt  Grice 
Tyson  Griffin 
Forrest  Griffin 
Kendall  Grove 
Clay  Guida 
Melvin  Guillard 
Jorge  Gurgel 
Dennis  Hallman 
John  Halverson 
Matt  Hamill 
Antoni  Hardonk 
Josh  Haynes 
Dustin  Hazelett 
Pat  Healy 
David  Heath 
Ed  Herman 
Heath  Herring 
Jay  Hieron 
Branden Lee  Hinkle 
Kuniyoshi  Hironaka 
Sam  Hoger 
Rex  Holman 
Jeremy  Horn 
Roger  Huerta 
Matt  Hughes 
Solomon  Hutcherson 
Brad   Imes 
James  Irvin 
Jeremy  Jackson 
Quinton  Jackson 
Justin  James 
Keith  Jardine 
Ronald  Jhun 
Kevin  Jordan 
Joe  Jordan 
Jeff  Joslin 
Martin  Kampmann 
Cheick  Kongo 
Josh  Koscheck 
Naoyuki  Kotani 
Keigo  Kunihara 
Mike  Kyle 
Jason  Lambert 
Icho  Larenas 
Joe  Lauzon 
Dan  Lauzon 
Robbie  Lawler 
Chris  Leben 
David  Lee 
Thales  Leites 
Justin  Levens 
Jess  Liaudin 
Chuck  Liddell 
Dean   Lister 
David  Loiseau 
Duane  Ludwig 
Travis  Lutter 
Stevie  Lynch 
Chris  Lytle 
Rob  MacDonald 
Jason  MacDonald 
Lyoto  Machida 
Bill  Mahood 
Nate  Marquardt 
Carmelo  Marrero 
John  Marsh 
Terry  Martin 
Charles  McCarthy 
Tamdan  McCrory 
Justin  McCully 
Drew  McFedries 
Gan  McGee 
Dave  Menne 
Christophe  Midoux 
Frank  Mir 
Dokonjonosuke  Mishima  
Nate  Mohr 
Jeff  Monson 
Sammy  Morgan 
Tom  Murphy 
Lee  Murray 
Keita  Nakamura 
Josh  Neer 
Mario  Neto 
Jeff  Newton 
Mike   Nickels 
Derrick  Noble 
Minotauro  Nogueira 
Jake  O'Brien 
Yushin  Okami 
Tito  Ortiz 
Karo  Parisyan 
Kurt  Pellegrino 
Sherman  Pendergarst 
BJ  Penn 
Anthony  Perosh 
Seth  Petruzelli 
Forrest  Petz 
Ross  Pointon 
Trevor  Prangley 
Chris  Price 
Jens  Pulver 
Nate  Quarry 
Jordan  Radev 
Hector  Ramirez 
Gideon  Ray 
Chad  Reiner 
Jason  Reinhardt 
Aaron  Riley 
Jorge  Rivera 
Pedro  Rizzo 
Colin  Robinson 
Keith  Rockel 
Kristian  Rothaermel  
Gabe  Ruediger 
Alessio  Sakara 
Ivan  Salaverry 
Sean  Salmon 
Eddie  Sanchez 
Diego  Sanchez 
Jorge  Santiago 
Diego  Saraiva 
Yuki  Sasaki 
Eric  Schafer 
Kerry  Schall 
Fabiano  Scherner 
Josh  Schockman 
Pete  Sell 
Matt  Serra 
Ken  Shamrock 
Sean  Sherk 
Anderson   Silva 
Assuerio  Silva 
Thiago  Silva 
Wes  Sims 
Rory  Singer 
Elvis  Sinosic 
Dennis  Siver 
Scott  Smith 
Renato  Sobral 
Chael  Sonnen 
Pete  Spratt 
Georges  St-Pierre 
Kalib  Starnes 
Jeremy  Stephens 
Joe  Stevenson 
Sam   Stout 
Genki  Sudo 
Mike  Swick 
Tim  Sylvia 
Jason  Tan 
Evan  Tanner 
Thiago  Tavares 
Paul  Taylor 
Tra  Telligman 
David  Terrell 
Din  Thomas 
Nick  Thompson 
Josh  Thomson 
Gleison  Tibau 
Anthony  Torres 
Frank  Trigg 
Victor  Valimaki 
Mike  Van Arsdale 
Brandon  Vera 
Steve  Vigneault 
Jason  Von Flue 
Crafton  Wallace 
Cory  Walmsley 
Christian  Wellisch 
Fabricio  Werdum 
Vernon  White 
Mike  Whitehead 
Jonathan  Wiezorek 
Matt  Wiman 
Keith  Wisniewski 
Travis  Wiuff 


It doesn't prove anything. Maybe some casual fan has a good memory or a dedicated fan doesn't do well with names. I have a better way. I give you names of 50 guys and you tell me if they wore shorts or nut huggers in there last fight. It's just as arbitrary and maybe funnier.
nubby
6/11/07 4:56:12PM
It wasn't meant to prove anything, I was just testing myself to see how many I could name. I don't really think it proves a person is more of a fan either. Personally I think you can be just as much of a fan if you like just a few fighters or if you follow them all. If you follow just a few very closely I think you tend to have a better understanding of that fighter's capabilities where if you follow many fighters you have a better overall understanding of how fights will go. Just different perspectives I guess.
crocop901
6/11/07 4:56:25PM

Posted by kaduey


Posted by nubby

I know UFC pretty well but I wouldn't be able to name 5 people in every weight division. I mainly follow the people I care about. As for pride, well I could barely name a handfull of fighters from there. I think it's mainly because I didn't really care for pride.



No offence but if you can't name five fighters in each division of the UFC then you don't know the UFC pretty well.

I think a true pure mma fan is someone who doesn't miss an event unless a family member has died, or if they here someone mention an mma event, they break out into intense discussions.



This is very true
szucconi
6/11/07 5:11:02PM

Posted by nubby

It wasn't meant to prove anything, I was just testing myself to see how many I could name. I don't really think it proves a person is more of a fan either. Personally I think you can be just as much of a fan if you like just a few fighters or if you follow them all. If you follow just a few very closely I think you tend to have a better understanding of that fighter's capabilities where if you follow many fighters you have a better overall understanding of how fights will go. Just different perspectives I guess.



I was speaking of the question in general, and not about your list.
xthe_scottx
6/11/07 5:21:53PM
I like how you just copied that from UFC.com szucconi. It's strange that Cro Cop is listed under "C" when his last name is Filipovic.
nubby
6/11/07 5:24:46PM
I don't think I have seen one UFC commerical mention his last name so it only makes sense that he be listed under the name he is marketed under.
DJDark41
6/11/07 5:26:13PM

Posted by Mastodon2

I dont think the "true" fans should need to use abitrary tests to define who is a true fan or not. If you love the sport, let it be your passion, if someone can hang with top level discussion with you then they are probably a dedicated fan too, but really it dont matter.




Completely agreed. If you like the sport, you watch it, and your into it, your a fan. Even if you can't discuss it you can still be a fan, your just not as into as some people are. But, an actual test like naming the first heavyweight champion of the UFC, or knowing who won the first PRIDE Grand Prix doesn't make you a fan, it makes you knowledgable in the sport, two different things.
szucconi
6/11/07 5:33:18PM

Posted by xthe_scottx

I like how you just copied that from UFC.com szucconi. It's strange that Cro Cop is listed under "C" when his last name is Filipovic.



Thanks for pointing that out, I though I had done it already, but maybe it wasn't clear.

I copied the list directly from UFC.com.
xthe_scottx
6/11/07 5:36:36PM
I know you pointed it out, I was just trying to hint at why?
Aether
6/11/07 5:45:26PM
mirko actually requested he be referred to as crocop as far as I know. Every time I hear his name announced it's either "CroCop" or "Mirko CroCop".
keith-hackney1
6/11/07 5:49:25PM

Posted by chuck-da-iceman

hey guys, i was talkin a few buddys of mine that think there true ufc fans and i was wonderin what do u think is the best way to test these wannabes. I think if you can name 5 fighters off the top of your head out of each weight class, you can call your self a fan



To be a true fan You need to be a member on this site dude !!!!!!
szucconi
6/11/07 5:54:55PM

Posted by xthe_scottx

I know you pointed it out, I was just trying to hint at why?



because I can't spell.
chuck-da-iceman
6/11/07 8:32:01PM

Posted by keith-hackney1



To be a true fan You need to be a member on this site dude !!!!!!



good call man good call
Trapt1nw0nder
6/11/07 8:57:01PM
if you are watching UFC with your friends and they never STFU during the fights(none MMA related chit chat) before the main event or leave,or stop watching after the main event,they're not true fans........I really hate that shit


Manfred
6/12/07 1:06:41AM

Posted by xthe_scottx

I like how you just copied that from UFC.com szucconi. It's strange that Cro Cop is listed under "C" when his last name is Filipovic.



Gross said on the Beatdown that he demanded he be referred to as Mirco Cro Cop, not sure why except he didn't want to have to injure his foot on Rogan's head for pronouncing it wrong
pv3Hpv3p
6/12/07 2:15:42AM
I guess any true fan, would be someone that has a real fasination and interest in the sport... Not many of my friends know and can talk MMA in depth, but they are all interested and willing to listen, and egar to learn... Since they've gotten hooked, they don't miss a PPV... I'd consider them true fans...

I guess if you really wanted to look at it... A true UFC fan can tell you about Ruas chopping down a Polar Bear at VII, the rise and fall of Pedro Rizzo, how Mark Coleman redefined NHB fighting, the stigma of human-cockfighting and the US ban, etc...

IMO, doesn't take much to name 5 guys who are presently fighting in the UFC... I guess a 'true' fan, if you had to label one, would know about where the sport came from, what it's gone through, and how much the combat sport landscape has changed from the NHB days of the early 90's to the athletic commision regulated sport of Mixed Martial Arts we know today...

Something like that anyways...
roman
6/12/07 2:32:54AM

Posted by Mastodon2

I dont think the "true" fans should need to use abitrary tests to define who is a true fan or not. If you love the sport, let it be your passion, if someone can hang with top level discussion with you then they are probably a dedicated fan too, but really it dont matter.

And really, Im more interested in meeting and talking to MMA fans, as opposed to just UFC fans


No shit.
Trapt1nw0nder
6/12/07 11:13:44AM

Posted by pv3Hpv3p

I guess any true fan, would be someone that has a real fasination and interest in the sport... Not many of my friends know and can talk MMA in depth, but they are all interested and willing to listen, and egar to learn... Since they've gotten hooked, they don't miss a PPV... I'd consider them true fans...

I guess if you really wanted to look at it... A true UFC fan can tell you about Ruas chopping down a Polar Bear at VII, the rise and fall of Pedro Rizzo, how Mark Coleman redefined NHB fighting, the stigma of human-cockfighting and the US ban, etc...

IMO, doesn't take much to name 5 guys who are presently fighting in the UFC... I guess a 'true' fan, if you had to label one, would know about where the sport came from, what it's gone through, and how much the combat sport landscape has changed from the NHB days of the early 90's to the athletic commision regulated sport of Mixed Martial Arts we know today...

Something like that anyways...



keith-hackney1
6/12/07 12:04:03PM
When you feel you are addicted to mma, your a huge fan. If you dont feel it, your not there yet, but believe me people, after a few years of learning to love this sport, one day it hits you and thats when you realize that this sport is for life !!!!!!!

That, if any reason, is when you can class yourself as a true fan !!!

pv3Hpv3p
6/12/07 1:36:31PM

Posted by Trapt1nw0nder


Posted by pv3Hpv3p

I guess any true fan, would be someone that has a real fasination and interest in the sport... Not many of my friends know and can talk MMA in depth, but they are all interested and willing to listen, and egar to learn... Since they've gotten hooked, they don't miss a PPV... I'd consider them true fans...

I guess if you really wanted to look at it... A true UFC fan can tell you about Ruas chopping down a Polar Bear at VII, the rise and fall of Pedro Rizzo, how Mark Coleman redefined NHB fighting, the stigma of human-cockfighting and the US ban, etc...

IMO, doesn't take much to name 5 guys who are presently fighting in the UFC... I guess a 'true' fan, if you had to label one, would know about where the sport came from, what it's gone through, and how much the combat sport landscape has changed from the NHB days of the early 90's to the athletic commision regulated sport of Mixed Martial Arts we know today...

Something like that anyways...






wolfman
7/21/07 1:14:01AM

Posted by pv3Hpv3p

I guess any true fan, would be someone that has a real fasination and interest in the sport... Not many of my friends know and can talk MMA in depth, but they are all interested and willing to listen, and egar to learn... Since they've gotten hooked, they don't miss a PPV... I'd consider them true fans...

I guess if you really wanted to look at it... A true UFC fan can tell you about Ruas chopping down a Polar Bear at VII, the rise and fall of Pedro Rizzo, how Mark Coleman redefined NHB fighting, the stigma of human-cockfighting and the US ban, etc...

IMO, doesn't take much to name 5 guys who are presently fighting in the UFC... I guess a 'true' fan, if you had to label one, would know about where the sport came from, what it's gone through, and how much the combat sport landscape has changed from the NHB days of the early 90's to the athletic commision regulated sport of Mixed Martial Arts we know today...

Something like that anyways...



Agreed, I couldn't have said this any better.
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