Posted by Jackelope
Posted by BlueSkiesBurn
Dr.'s supervision is one thing, Jackelope. If these guys had medical clearance we wouldn't be in this shitstorm. The fact is, they don't. These athletes, by and large, are using them as a performance enhancing tool. Only a handful of these athletes (Andy Petite) for medical reasons. Congress didn't investigate baseball because a boatload of athletes were being prescribed steroids for medical reasons.
Also, when I had my retina reattached they gave me steroids. I hated it. I could still notice the mood swings even on legally prescribed steroids. Matter of fact, I wound up destroying my PS2 because I threw my first interception of the season on NCAA 2010. Even medically prescribed steroids can have serious side effects, brother.
First of all-
I know the athletes are abusing. Never said I didn't. Please explain to me one area in which I skirted around that portion of the debate?
Second of all-
Your doctor should have pulled your prescription if you told him you were suffering mood swings. That's a side affect that some people have and some don't. On top of that I would like to know about what the prescription was, what route it was taken in, and what the dosage was for you to have those side affects. That's why I said in the first place "if it's done under doctor supervision." I'm well versed on the steroid debate. I've written several papers on the subject and it was the entire focus of a class I took. Not to mention my own personal experiences with them from a medical and abuse perspective. I didn't suffer any problems under medical supervision.
You cannot drop a blanket that was your single experience on the entire subject of debate. That's just vain and incredibly short sighted and I would expect much more from someone if we're to debate a subject intelligently. If the medical world did that then they would go around telling people they can't eat shellfish or peanuts because a portion of the population goes into anaphylactic shock when they do.
You've got to stop jumping all over me, brother. I never said that you said all of those things. They were general statements with regard to the article and the argument I'm sure Victor Jay would make using your statement. Only the first sentence applied to you.
I will restate my original post in a different way. Under medical supervision is the only way athletes should be taking steroids. Approved by a legitimate doctor with the organization reserving the right to get a second and third opinion from an independent source. I agree with you, Jackelope.
That being said, I don't feel that's the the direction Victor Jay was taking this article. He was clearly advocating steroid usage of the illegal kind. I would not, and I would hope that you will in the future consider this, ever trash a medically proven method of ensuring health and rehabilitation. I also wouldn't ever make a blanket statement regarding an issue of this caliber.
My statement of medically prescribed steroids still being harmful was more of an anecdote rather than me trying to make a blanket statement. All I was saying is that, even then, it can happen. I should have added that it should be VERY closely monitored even under those circumstances. I actually agree with steroids as prescribed by a legitimate doctors whose patients HEALTH is his top priority. The problem is that doctors in general are not using these things for health. It's just a statement being made, not me trashing your argument.
To answer your question my prescription was 20mg of Prednisone 4x daily. He did take me off of them but not before I stopped using the prescription myself. I noticed the changes and quit taking it.
I'm sorry if you thought I was trashing your statement. I should have hit enter and separated my statements but I was in a rush to get to school and just wanted to comment on the subject. Give me the benefit of the doubt next time, I usually do with others. You'll know when I'm telling someone why they are wrong.