Who is the Y! Sports Boxer of the Year?

Floyd Mayweather Jr		57%	(30)
Joe Calzaghe		9%	(5)
Miguel Cotto		17%	(9)
Kelly Pavlik		17%	(9)

Floyd Mayweather Jr., Joe Calzaghe, Miguel Cotto and Kelly Pavlik have combined for a 146-0 record and 111 knockouts.

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At least Y! Sports finally looks halfway competent in a boxing/MMA story. I expected them to pick Pretty Boy Floyd based on name recognition, but they made a decent choice in Cotto. Still, my pick has to be Kelly Pavlik. That may also be a bit of prediction down the road, as I think he'll dominate boxing in 2008.

FLOYD MAYWEATHER is the fighter of the year by the one that matters ring magazine.That matters alot more than Y! SPORTS.

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Posted by ohiostate1016

At least Y! Sports finally looks halfway competent in a boxing/MMA story. I expected them to pick Pretty Boy Floyd based on name recognition

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ya beating de la hoya and knocking out ricky hatton in 2 of the biggest fights of all time including the biggest grossing fight in boxing history is really on name recognition

I think cotto, although its hard to vote against calzaghe for me.

i cant watch boxin anyomre after doing mma, whats the Y?

Voted Floyd, because to the average guy this is the only one that has become a household name....the Jordan of boxing so to speak.

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Posted by owen1

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Posted by ohiostate1016

At least Y! Sports finally looks halfway competent in a boxing/MMA story. I expected them to pick Pretty Boy Floyd based on name recognition

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ya beating de la hoya and knocking out ricky hatton in 2 of the biggest fights of all time including the biggest grossing fight in boxing history is really on name recognition

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Yeah, hands down, PBF. Although I like him the fourth most of the available candidates. Its hard to disagree with beating the two biggest names in his division in the same year, not to mention the size of the two events being record breaking...

PBF by far, if boxing wasnt in a lag, i might could see pavlik, but with boxing in the state that its in, PBF made some major money for a lagging sport

Miguel Cotto! Sure Floyd had 2 big fights. Probably the two biggest fights in quite some time. But the Del La Hoya fight was boring as hell. The Hatton outcome was expected. Floyd's crafty and slick as a mothaf*cka. Hatton is sloppy as heck. I knew Floyd was going to rearrange his face.

I pick Miguel either one of his fights are fight of the year. I mean with both Zab and Shane. He just came in and slugged. They were great fights. He beat Shane Mosley who just ran through Del La Hoya twice. If you ask me. Floyd better make the jump or retire because either Cotto or Mosely would end that undefeated record.

I don't even have to say anything, you guys have covered it. Floyd is in the top 5 p4p ever IMO.

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Posted by cmill21

Floyd is in the top 5 p4p ever IMO.

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Let's see...Floyd is better than (and I'm missing a whole bunch here):

Muhammad Ali
George Foreman
Lennox Lewis
Rocky Marciano
"Sugar" Ray Leonard
Mike Tyson (in his prime)
Marvin Hagler
Archie Moore
Roy Jones Jr
Joe Louis
Julio Cesar Chavez
"Sugar" Ray Robinson
Roberto Duran
Evander Holyfield
Tommy Hearns
Joe Frazier
Jack Johnson
Jack Dempsey
Henry Armstrong

No, I don't think so. And that's just off the top of my head! Sure, PBF is good, but he's fighting in one of the worst ages of boxing ever. The fact that he's undefeated against a bunch of cans plus Oscar and Hatton means nothing to me.

And, by the way, he's not even the boxer of the year. A lot of you must not even watch boxing, because the boxer of the year is Pavlik, hands down.

UGH i know this is off the topic but this is y i cant stand boxing ... these guys all combined are undeafeted ... If ur the best u cant lose ... unlike MMA ... MMA the best loses everyone loses because its about match ups jui jit sui vs wrestler or stirker vs grappler ... its perfect u dont know whos gona win ... and of course the size advantages ... its great stuff ... this is y i say mma is better then boxing the best lose and its not drawn out ... just felt like posting that

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Posted by quezocrema0032

UGH i know this is off the topic but this is y i cant stand boxing ... these guys all combined are undeafeted ... If ur the best u cant lose ... unlike MMA ... MMA the best loses everyone loses because its about match ups jui jit sui vs wrestler or stirker vs grappler ... its perfect u dont know whos gona win ... and of course the size advantages ... its great stuff ... this is y i say mma is better then boxing the best lose and its not drawn out ... just felt like posting that

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Even thought it IS off-topic

Although that doesn't keep me from watching boxing. I've seen every fight mentioned in the Yahoo! Sports (to answer the question posed earlier), and I made my decision not based on who had the biggest fights, but who fought the best. That's the only way you can do it.

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Posted by NatedawgThaM

Miguel Cotto! Sure Floyd had 2 big fights. Probably the two biggest fights in quite some time. But the Del La Hoya fight was boring as hell. The Hatton outcome was expected. Floyd's crafty and slick as a mothaf*cka. Hatton is sloppy as heck. I knew Floyd was going to rearrange his face.

I pick Miguel either one of his fights are fight of the year. I mean with both Zab and Shane. He just came in and slugged. They were great fights. He beat Shane Mosley who just ran through Del La Hoya twice. If you ask me. Floyd better make the jump or retire because either Cotto or Mosely would end that undefeated record.

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I agree you somewhat..

Cotto is definatly fighter of the year in my book...

Floyd is a very close second,but De La Hoya was really out of his prime and not the same DLH who fought Mosley(which both fights could of pretty much went either way)...and Hatton...come on..the most hyped brit of all time.

I still think Floyd is P4P the best in the world,but Miguel Cotto has dismantled every fighter put in front of him for a while,not just 2007.

First in 07 was Zab Judah, which is a very good fighter and a huge step up in competition for Cotto which he passed with flying colors in a fight people call a "bloody masterpeice"

Then there was Mosley, who had only lost to 2 fighters in his career and both were fighters over his natural weighclass(154 Jr.Middleweights, Forest and Wright)..he was still undefeated at Welterweight(147)

I dont think Mosley has a chance against Mayweather,but im sure Cotto does......Cotto is THE body destroyer..NOT Ricky Hatton...Cotto isnt a dirty boxer like Hatton either..he dont hold...Cotto is there to hurt you every second of the round!

Any true boxing fan would vote Cotto.....Props to all Cotto voters above me..

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Posted by ohiostate1016

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Posted by cmill21

Floyd is in the top 5 p4p ever IMO.

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Let's see...Floyd is better than (and I'm missing a whole bunch here):

Muhammad Ali
George Foreman
Lennox Lewis
Rocky Marciano
"Sugar" Ray Leonard
Mike Tyson (in his prime)
Marvin Hagler
Archie Moore
Roy Jones Jr
Joe Louis
Julio Cesar Chavez
"Sugar" Ray Robinson
Roberto Duran
Evander Holyfield
Tommy Hearns
Joe Frazier
Jack Johnson
Jack Dempsey
Henry Armstrong

No, I don't think so. And that's just off the top of my head! Sure, PBF is good, but he's fighting in one of the worst ages of boxing ever. The fact that he's undefeated against a bunch of cans plus Oscar and Hatton means nothing to me.

And, by the way, he's not even the boxer of the year. A lot of you must not even watch boxing, because the boxer of the year is Pavlik, hands down.

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This must be the dumbest post i have ever seen....Saying Joe Frazier and George Forman were better boxers P4P is retarded...Floyd is better than all of those mentioned

sure those boxers were great,but that was a totally different era....boxing skill is totally improved these days..

Its like saying Royce Gracie is the best MMA fighter of all time.

My reply to ohiostate:

Yes I do think Floyd is easily in the top 5 of P4P's ever. The names you posted makes me think you don't know what it takes to be skilled in boxing. I'll take one example, George Foreman, his boxing skills were limited, Ali made him look like an amature, he had big power obviously, but lacked the speed, footwork, stamina, and accuracy to keep himself in the Ali fight. Floyd Mayweather has fought very stiff competition, but he has the speed, power, footwork, stamina, accuracy, and every single skill needed to hang with anyone you listed P4P. I know alot of people don't like him, but watch his post hatton interview, he said "I have the utmost respect for this man, he's a hell of a fighter" the guys only a huge smack talker to sell tickets, and guess what 47 mill in PPV buys in the US alone says it works.

anyone who knows anything about boxing knows its Floyds year!
but i cant wait for him to get his arse kicked in mma

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Posted by Trapt1nw0nder

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Posted by ohiostate1016

Muhammad Ali
George Foreman
Lennox Lewis
Rocky Marciano
"Sugar" Ray Leonard
Mike Tyson (in his prime)
Marvin Hagler
Archie Moore
Roy Jones Jr
Joe Louis
Julio Cesar Chavez
"Sugar" Ray Robinson
Roberto Duran
Evander Holyfield
Tommy Hearns
Joe Frazier
Jack Johnson
Jack Dempsey
Henry Armstrong

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Floyd is better than all of those mentioned

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That's probably because you haven't heard of half of those guys. Name one fighter that Henry Armstrong beat. How about JCC? Archie Moore? Just because PBF is dominating boxing in a time where there are very few other good boxers out there doesn't mean that he's the best PFP ever. Make your case for Floyd over any of those guys on the list. Make sure it's one you've heard of...

All I got to say is. Joe Frazier ftw.

He's the 3rd best HW of all time. If you have any HW boxer over him besides Ali or Foreman. You better have a damn good explanation. Fraizer beat everybody besides Ali and Foreman. The #1 and #2 HW boxers of all time. He dismantled everybody else. He would have massacred Holyfeild, Bowe, and Michael Moore. He'd easily beat any of these chumps that call themselves elite HW's nowadays. I think the only guy that could give Fraizer a run for his money for 3rd best HW of all time is Tyson in his prime. Both fabulous KO artist. Never stop coming forward.

Just defending my by Fraizer. In FN RD3 it's Fraizer style boy!!! BODY! BODY! BODY!!!

As for Floyd being one of the best ever. I would put him in my top 15. But not top 10. It's the same reason I don't have Sugar Ray Leonard in my top 10. It takes a man to be able to step in the ring and go toe to toe with somebody. But any little girl can run away and throw jabs for 12 rounds. I can list 10 people I think would masscre Floyd even if they were in different division. I think if you shrunk em'. They'd beat Floyd!!!

Muhammad Ali- Greatest Of All time
George Foreman- 2nd greatest of all time I think
Rocky Marciano
Joe Louis
Bernard Hopkins- Most underrated fighter of all time. May not be in the top 10 of all time but I just think style wise he'd beat Floyd. The same way he beat Winky.
Joe Frazier- Cotto fights just like him. That's why I think Cotto will beat him!
Miguel Cotto- Not top 10 of all time. But he can and will beat Floyd
Marvin Hagler- I'm afraid we'll see Hagler-Sugar Ray 2 but I think Hagler wins
Sugar Ray Robinson
Manny Pacquiao- This fight needs to happen! Manny is a nightmare for anybody!

That's just 10 I think would beat him at the same weight. Their's tons more! Like I said. It takes a man and true fighting spirit to go toe to toe and actually fight. But any girl can run for 12 rounds and throw out jabs.

Mayweather is the fighter of the year, hands down.

However, my money is on Cotto if they ever fight.

and for the all-time rankers, PBF is on the fringe of top 50.

And to cmill21 saying PBF is top 5 P4P ever, I extremely disagree. He is a fringe top 50 P4P also.

At what point did all opinions ignore the previous dozen decades that happened before this one ?

I'll go for Cotto


As for Mayweather's all-time standing, he is a victim/beneficiary of today's fight game where elite fighters only fight once or twice a year. As such he has a good chance of protecting his perfect record but no chance of ever being remember in even the top 20-30 p4p fighters of all time. Compare his record to my own top 3:

Sugar Ray Robinson: 175-19-6 (109)
Willie Pep: 230-11-1 (65)
Henry Armstrong: 151-21-9 (101)

Floyd Mayweather: 39-0 (25)

In addition, the top 3 guys fought more fellow hall-of-famers than Floyd could ever hope to do. He's one of the best of this era (along with guys like Roy Jones, Shane Mosely Ricardo Lopez), but he hasn't challenged himself nearly enough to contend for all-time status.

No disrespect, but this is the MMA News Share Forum... this belongs in the Locker Room Forum

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Posted by ohiostate1016

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Posted by cmill21

Floyd is in the top 5 p4p ever IMO.

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Let's see...Floyd is better than (and I'm missing a whole bunch here):

Muhammad Ali
George Foreman
Lennox Lewis
Rocky Marciano
"Sugar" Ray Leonard
Mike Tyson (in his prime)
Marvin Hagler
Archie Moore
Roy Jones Jr
Joe Louis
Julio Cesar Chavez
"Sugar" Ray Robinson
Roberto Duran
Evander Holyfield
Tommy Hearns
Joe Frazier
Jack Johnson
Jack Dempsey
Henry Armstrong

No, I don't think so. And that's just off the top of my head! Sure, PBF is good, but he's fighting in one of the worst ages of boxing ever. The fact that he's undefeated against a bunch of cans plus Oscar and Hatton means nothing to me.

And, by the way, he's not even the boxer of the year. A lot of you must not even watch boxing, because the boxer of the year is Pavlik, hands down.

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Sorry to say this man, but you think you know a WHOLE lot more than you do... There are a ton of holes in that list, but I wont go into it. Try not to be so judgmental, you are berating a guy for disagreeing with you. Last time I checked, you have an opinion and so does he. How about discussing them without making your opinion the absolute truth, and labeling anyone else that disagrees with you an uninformed fan.

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Posted by NatedawgThaM

All I got to say is. Joe Frazier ftw.

He's the 3rd best HW of all time. If you have any HW boxer over him besides Ali or Foreman. You better have a damn good explanation. Fraizer beat everybody besides Ali and Foreman. The #1 and #2 HW boxers of all time. He dismantled everybody else. He would have massacred Holyfeild, Bowe, and Michael Moore. He'd easily beat any of these chumps that call themselves elite HW's nowadays. I think the only guy that could give Fraizer a run for his money for 3rd best HW of all time is Tyson in his prime. Both fabulous KO artist. Never stop coming forward.

That's just 10 I think would beat him at the same weight. Their's tons more! Like I said. It takes a man and true fighting spirit to go toe to toe and actually fight. But any girl can run for 12 rounds and throw out jabs.

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Boxing isn't two guys standing toe to toe and throwing, guys who do that aren't good boxers, and they ussually end up punch drunk of die. Whats one thing you hear everyone talk about when they mention the great boxers? Their footwork! Moving in and out, avoiding damage while dishing it out, how can you say that isn't boxing? As for some people disagreeing with me that's perfectly fine, and guess what I disagree with you to. If you look at Floyd and his career you'll see him being robbed at the olympics, beating the top(someone mentioned JCC who lost twice to delahoya who lost to floyd) opponents in the world, taken little damage besides what he inflicts on his own body(been knocked down once!) his footwork, hand speed, accuracy, and knowledge or on par with anyone. Also I am not bias, he is not even close to being my favorite boxer, I love the classics, but those guys aren't on the same level as the athletes today, it's that simple to me.

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I understand what you are saying. Athletes are more fit and probably have more skills then the greats since they have nearly 30+ of boxing to look at and learn from mistakes and perfect their game.

But I think it's totally different to what Floyd does. I understand using speed and footwork to avoid punches and fight back. FLOYD DOES NOT! He does not inflict damage. As at least I think. He runs around and throws jabs.

The most exciting fights he has are the ones in the lower weight class. A good example was this past Hatton fight. Hatton is too small to be at 147. That's the only reason this fight was even exciting. Because Floyd was huge compared to Hatton. You all know how that works. A small boxer who likes to fight inside going up against a bigger boxer who's pretty damn slick I'll admitt.

But when he fights the bigger guys. Like the Del La Hoya fight was a good example. He chickens and runs and only throws jabs. That's not using footwork to avoid punishment and delivering punishment back. It's just hitting guys with weak jabs as they come in knowing their going to run into it just to get those punch count numbers up.

But I never thought Del La Hoya was really a great fighter, Because when he does fight great fighters, He loses. Cotto is way better then Del La Hoya I think. He does everything right. PLUS he's exciting. I think since their trying to get Cotto-Hoya done. I think Cotto will knockout Oscar. I think he'd put on a better fight against floyd and win a decision as long as he does not gas which is hard not to do when your opponent is running.

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Posted by NatedawgThaM

All I got to say is. Joe Frazier ftw.

He's the 3rd best HW of all time. If you have any HW boxer over him besides Ali or Foreman. You better have a damn good explanation. Fraizer beat everybody besides Ali and Foreman. The #1 and #2 HW boxers of all time. He dismantled everybody else. He would have massacred Holyfeild, Bowe, and Michael Moore. He'd easily beat any of these chumps that call themselves elite HW's nowadays. I think the only guy that could give Fraizer a run for his money for 3rd best HW of all time is Tyson in his prime. Both fabulous KO artist. Never stop coming forward.

Just defending my by Fraizer. In FN RD3 it's Fraizer style boy!!! BODY! BODY! BODY!!!

As for Floyd being one of the best ever. I would put him in my top 15. But not top 10. It's the same reason I don't have Sugar Ray Leonard in my top 10. It takes a man to be able to step in the ring and go toe to toe with somebody. But any little girl can run away and throw jabs for 12 rounds. I can list 10 people I think would masscre Floyd even if they were in different division. I think if you shrunk em'. They'd beat Floyd!!!

Muhammad Ali- Greatest Of All time
George Foreman- 2nd greatest of all time I think
Rocky Marciano
Joe Louis
Bernard Hopkins- Most underrated fighter of all time. May not be in the top 10 of all time but I just think style wise he'd beat Floyd. The same way he beat Winky.
Joe Frazier- Cotto fights just like him. That's why I think Cotto will beat him!
Miguel Cotto- Not top 10 of all time. But he can and will beat Floyd
Marvin Hagler- I'm afraid we'll see Hagler-Sugar Ray 2 but I think Hagler wins
Sugar Ray Robinson
Manny Pacquiao- This fight needs to happen! Manny is a nightmare for anybody!

That's just 10 I think would beat him at the same weight. Their's tons more! Like I said. It takes a man and true fighting spirit to go toe to toe and actually fight. But any girl can run for 12 rounds and throw out jabs.

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Damn..I gave you props for being a knowledgable boxing fan,but now i am second guessing that...

I wont argue much about Ali...he is the only 1 i can see being above Floyd...The point of boxing is hit,and dont get hit..and Ali got hit alot during his fights..why do you think he ended up the way he did

George Foreman 2nd greatest of all time is laughable.....I respect Foreman,but come on...he was all power and practically no skill.

As for Hopkins beating Floyd the same way he did Winky....????....yea..we all know Winky and Floyd have the same boxing style...Hopkins was smart when he fought Winky and moved around the ring making Winky follow him and use his legs(which no one had ever done to Winky,and happened to be his weakness)...he made him move around and by the 8th round Winky's legs were gone!...that WILL NOT happen to Floyd!

Frazier was an other Foreman,but with better hands...there is nothing there that would make you think he would beat a quick, smart fighter like Floyd...and Cotto is not just a body puncher...Cotto is a well rounded Boxer with great footwork and reflexed......Frazier would be there to get hit the whole fight.


I would wouldnt put money on Cotto to beat Floyd,but he is the #1 contender and i think would give Floyd alot of problems...I would be rooting for Cotto

I just dont see Boxers from that era beating the top boxers of this era...Im only 22 years old and i have been a boxing fan since i was 8,but I have seen tons of old footage on all those on ESPN classic and i just dont see the skill of today...

I agree with pretty much everything you said trapt. I see what your saying nate, but what you said is kind of like saying Tanks better then Randy because he always goes for the kill, pleasing the fans is a nice part, but in all honesty these boxers have an already short career, why shorten it further by trying to just stand and trade to please the fans and ignore what you've spent your life learning? I've been watching boxing since uhhh wow I have no idea, and participating in boxing for 10 years, and I know footwork is 1B for importance in boxing, ask the Muhammed, who used his footwork to beat Frazier and Foreman, he woulden't have survived had he had bad footwork against those two.