Sherk wants to welcome Diego Sanchez to 155

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ufc88
12/10/08 4:19:21AM
jakeiceman
12/10/08 4:33:50AM
I think Sherk just wants to offer him a rude welcome to the 155 lb division. in my opinion Diego does not deserve to fight Sherk for his first fight. I think Diego will make for some good fight but I dont see him being a contender. If they fought I think Sherk would pound on him the whole time. Although I cant say for sure when I havent seen Diego at LW.
RNC
12/10/08 5:47:40AM
Bad move for Sherk in my opinion. Sherk wants to keep moving up in the division, ultimately to fight for the belt again. Beating Diego Sanchez in his LW debut won't really help him much. This most likely won't happen, but I think this is how it should go. Sherk should fight Maynard. While BJ fights Florian for the belt, the winner of Sherk vs Maynard fights Nate Diaz for the #1 contender spot. Diego Sanchez should get someone like Aurelio or Guida for his first fight at LW. How well he does would show where he really is. I'm sure the UFC wants to give him publicity at LW, so thats another reason these match ups are so good, because Sanchez is capable of winning both of them.
Aaronno9
12/10/08 8:15:25AM
I dont think Sanchez is a good match for anybody at 155. Hes going to be pretty big, and his wrestling is very good. Plus hes hard to pin down, hes so active on his back trying to get back up. I think id pick up over anybody except Penn and possibly sherk.
Red-Dragon
12/10/08 8:20:10AM

Posted by jakeiceman

I think Sherk just wants to offer him a rude welcome to the 155 lb division. in my opinion Diego does not deserve to fight Sherk for his first fight. I think Diego will make for some good fight but I dont see him being a contender. If they fought I think Sherk would pound on him the whole time. Although I cant say for sure when I havent seen Diego at LW.



WOW, you cant see Diego as a contender at 155?

I think he would be in the top 5 at least. Bring on a Diego v Florian rematch. I know Kenny has improved a lot since their fight but Sanchez demolished Kenny.
Jackelope
12/10/08 8:26:11AM
LOL, Sherk outwrestled Tyson Griffin and looked almost even with him on the feet. Not to mention no one has ever looked in better shape than Sherk. Now people think Diego, who relies on his wrestling and cardio, is going to beat Sean Sherk?

IMO Diego's only advantage in this fight will be his height.
4u2nv
12/10/08 9:00:18AM

Posted by Jackelope

LOL, Sherk outwrestled Tyson Griffin and looked almost even with him on the feet. Not to mention no one has ever looked in better shape than Sherk. Now people think Diego, who relies on his wrestling and cardio, is going to beat Sean Sherk?

IMO Diego's only advantage in this fight will be his height.



I couldn't agree more. Also I can't see Diego subbing Sherk and he's more superior with his gnp and maybe even the standup.
ohiostate1016
12/10/08 9:09:24AM

Posted by 4u2nv


Posted by Jackelope

LOL, Sherk outwrestled Tyson Griffin and looked almost even with him on the feet. Not to mention no one has ever looked in better shape than Sherk. Now people think Diego, who relies on his wrestling and cardio, is going to beat Sean Sherk?

IMO Diego's only advantage in this fight will be his height.



I couldn't agree more. Also I can't see Diego subbing Sherk and he's more superior with his gnp and maybe even the standup.



Most of you are drastically underrating Diego Sanchez. He was dominant at 170 with his ground and pound, and he'll only be better at 155 because of his size advantage. Don't forget that this guy won TUF1 at 185. He could end up walking into a LW fight at over 170.

Sanchez does need to work on his standup, but I think that he'll be able to take most LWs down and pound on them. Sherk and B.J. are the only two obvious exceptions. But I do think that Sherk will gas late in the fight (and I think most of us know why) and Diego will take over and pound out a decision win in this one.
prozacnation1978
12/10/08 9:40:45AM
a consensus top5 fighter in his division moving to lightweight
he will be a force i don't think he should get sherk first
maybe a wiman, taveres, or miller would be good. he will be fighting in march so maybe winner of miller vs wiman gets him
who the hell knows but i think he could beat sherk
Pyrenus
12/10/08 9:52:45AM
I think some may be overestimating Diego. I don't see him as top 5 LW at ALL. As long as his stand up is so TERRIBLE, he won't be able to set up takedowns and won't be able to ever get control. He had trouble getting WW's to the ground, the quicker LW's are going to make him look stupid. Josh Koscheck out struck him.

Florian would destroy Diego in the rematch. If Florian wasn't alread promised a shot at BJ, I'm sure they'd set this up in a heartbeat. They may offer it to Kenny anyway. I'm sure he'd take the fight.
Jackelope
12/10/08 10:02:33AM

Posted by ohiostate1016


Posted by 4u2nv


Posted by Jackelope

LOL, Sherk outwrestled Tyson Griffin and looked almost even with him on the feet. Not to mention no one has ever looked in better shape than Sherk. Now people think Diego, who relies on his wrestling and cardio, is going to beat Sean Sherk?

IMO Diego's only advantage in this fight will be his height.



I couldn't agree more. Also I can't see Diego subbing Sherk and he's more superior with his gnp and maybe even the standup.



Most of you are drastically underrating Diego Sanchez. He was dominant at 170 with his ground and pound, and he'll only be better at 155 because of his size advantage. Don't forget that this guy won TUF1 at 185. He could end up walking into a LW fight at over 170.

Sanchez does need to work on his standup, but I think that he'll be able to take most LWs down and pound on them. Sherk and B.J. are the only two obvious exceptions. But I do think that Sherk will gas late in the fight (and I think most of us know why) and Diego will take over and pound out a decision win in this one.



Not saying he won't be a contender, but to think he's going to step in and walk over or even edge out a victory over Sherk is ridiculous, IMO.

Sherk is an absolute beast. Just take a look at his only losses. GSP of 2005, BJ Penn of 2008, and the 2003 Matt Hughes. LOL talk about only losing to THE best of the best. As for avoiding subs he's faced Hermes Franca, Nick Diaz and Kenny Florian... all of whom he took to the ground and grinded out.

mattjonesy
12/10/08 11:59:25AM
I think sanchez shouldnt fight sherk straight off the bat, give him someone a bit lower down the rankings just to see if he can cut to 155 and still have decent cardio. Guida anyone? would love to see that fight.
sparky
12/10/08 12:02:42PM
Diego will rise quick in the lightweight division in my opinion.I think that Sanchez vs Sherk would be a great match up, but I think Diego will run right threw Sherk on his way to a fight with BJ for the belt.
tepid55
12/10/08 12:41:30PM
Sherk would dominate Sanchez in standup, wrestling, and BJJ.
TheNatural915
12/10/08 12:53:38PM
How much weight does he have to cut? He seems fine at 170
EvenFlow
12/10/08 1:36:40PM

Posted by ohiostate1016


Posted by 4u2nv


Posted by Jackelope

LOL, Sherk outwrestled Tyson Griffin and looked almost even with him on the feet. Not to mention no one has ever looked in better shape than Sherk. Now people think Diego, who relies on his wrestling and cardio, is going to beat Sean Sherk?

IMO Diego's only advantage in this fight will be his height.



I couldn't agree more. Also I can't see Diego subbing Sherk and he's more superior with his gnp and maybe even the standup.



Most of you are drastically underrating Diego Sanchez. He was dominant at 170 with his ground and pound, and he'll only be better at 155 because of his size advantage. Don't forget that this guy won TUF1 at 185. He could end up walking into a LW fight at over 170.

Sanchez does need to work on his standup, but I think that he'll be able to take most LWs down and pound on them. Sherk and B.J. are the only two obvious exceptions. But I do think that Sherk will gas late in the fight (and I think most of us know why) and Diego will take over and pound out a decision win in this one.



well sherk is a better wrestler than fitch, and fitch dominated diego, i dont see how the judges saw that a split decision, fitch clearly dominated everywhere it went

why make your lightweight debut against a former champ, fight frankie edgar or nate diaz someone in the top 10 (UFC top 10) to get your hands a little dirty before you dive in head first
bosanceros
12/10/08 1:59:11PM
all these fighters that cant become champs at heavier divisions move down to 155 thinking that everyone is lighter and that theyll run right throught them...but light weight is the toughest division in the sport, the most competative and in my opinion has the best fighters in the sport
Pookie
12/10/08 2:04:29PM
Ohio -
Diego has been very adamant about him being a more natural fit for a 163 pound division (right after his match-up with fitch dropping a weight class was a hot topic). I really dont think well see him during match time coming in over 170, or even over 163 for that matter, he said he didnt like the way the weight cut affected him, and for him to do it now i think he has to have gotten smaller, or is in preperation for getting smaller.

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Sherk is a bad match-up for diego especially in his debut match at a new weight. Sherk has very solid bjj defense and amazing top control with cardio to last throughout any 3 round war regardless of the pace. Diego's key abilities IMO are his well rounded grappling and his frenetic pace he likes to set. The problem against Sherk is that diego's bjj and transition game isnt strong enough to get from his back or sub him off his back IMO. And on the feet Sherk definitely has Diego beat. Everywhere the fight goes sherk is going to be the one setting the pace and the one exhibiting control to the judges... and with diego's mentality of "the most dangerous strikers are those who dont have to worry about being taken down", hes just going to get taken down over and over if sherk feels like it.And what will his cardio be like after the weight cut? Really tough match-up for him IMO.

i think he has what it takes to make a good impact on the division if he can still push the pace like he could at WW, just not against the likes of Sherk, or Penn for that matter.
Mayhem13
12/10/08 2:38:25PM
cutting that extra weight could end up effecting Deigo's cardio, which is one of the things he relies on most...and Sherk could definately outwrestle him, and tire him out..

especially if he has a tough cut
gsquat
12/10/08 2:51:21PM
I find this to be an appropriate matchup but very tough for Diego. Especiall if Sherk intends on wrestling. But it's all still specualtion at this point.
JWils
12/10/08 2:59:46PM
If Diego handles the cut well, I see him being a top contender in the LW division.

Sherk/Sanchez would be a very good fight. I would probably pick Sherk by decision. IMO, the only 2 in the weight class that I wouldn't pick Sanchez to beat are Sherk and Penn.

Florian has improved a ton since he and Sanchez fought, but I think it's been proven that Florian has a tough time with the style of fighter that Sanchez is. If they fought again, I would predict Sanchez would pretty much own Florian.

A matchup that I really would want to see is Sanchez and Huerta. IMO, that would be a sick fight.
Gipper
12/10/08 3:30:28PM
i think sherk is a great fighter i have him ranked no.2 at lw in the world but i think diego would beat sherk. i still think diego sanchez could be champ at 170 one day. he will be a beast at lw and like penn i think diego would be a step above every other lw fighter in the world.
higdon10
12/10/08 3:46:16PM
I think that Diego would beat Sherk. Sanchez has the better stand up and pretty good takedown defense.I think that he would be able to win the fight.
nickcuc547
12/10/08 5:39:08PM

Posted by 4u2nv


Posted by Jackelope

LOL, Sherk outwrestled Tyson Griffin and looked almost even with him on the feet. Not to mention no one has ever looked in better shape than Sherk. Now people think Diego, who relies on his wrestling and cardio, is going to beat Sean Sherk?

IMO Diego's only advantage in this fight will be his height.



I couldn't agree more. Also I can't see Diego subbing Sherk and he's more superior with his gnp and maybe even the standup.



sherks wrestling is a little overrated, remember when he couldn't bring nick diaz or bj penn or tyson griffin to the ground, something tells me he won't be able to get diego there either.
NatedawgThaM
12/10/08 5:42:53PM
IMO, Diego is better on the feet since he beat Lugi on the feet and stopped him, and Lugi's a good striker, not a liddell or Cro Cop, but still a solid striker who I think would take Sherk in a kickboxing match. And BJ Penns no Cro Cop or Wandy either but he still has some great solid striking skills himself and the best thing Sherk's ever did on the feet is survive three rounds against BJ, it's not like he left any bruises or hurt BJ. He got school'd with technique and beating Tyson Griffin on the feet does not make him much better then Diego cuz I think Diego would take it to Tyson on the feet too. Sherk's got an advantage with his wrestling but I don't think it's that big as people may think that he can grind Diego out, I think it will more like a stalemate like Sherk/Diaz against the cage in a wrestling match, and with BJJ I def. think Diego takes it.

I got Diego winning a close, but still unanimous decision. Sherk I think will win the 1st round, but I think Diego will out point him and out work him in the 2nd and 3rd rounds and win a unanimous decision. Maybe a split decision but I definitely think Diego's improved greatly and definitetly could take this fight.

GrandMaster313
12/10/08 6:42:32PM
Sherk will get welcomed to a TKO at 155 !!!
Pookie
12/10/08 7:03:06PM

Posted by nickcuc547

sherks wrestling is a little overrated, remember when he couldn't bring nick diaz or bj penn or tyson griffin to the ground, something tells me he won't be able to get diego there either.



Well Bj Penn has one of (if not the very best) sprawl in mma, Tyson Griffin and Nick diaz both got the shit boxed out of them on the feet IMO, not sure why sherk would want to take them down when hes winning on the feet and he on the norm gets shit for his (sometimes) excruciatingly boring top game.
nickcuc547
12/10/08 7:14:37PM

Posted by Pookie


Posted by nickcuc547

sherks wrestling is a little overrated, remember when he couldn't bring nick diaz or bj penn or tyson griffin to the ground, something tells me he won't be able to get diego there either.



Well Bj Penn has one of (if not the very best) sprawl in mma, Tyson Griffin and Nick diaz both got the shit boxed out of them on the feet IMO, not sure why sherk would want to take them down when hes winning on the feet and he on the norm gets shit for his (sometimes) excruciatingly boring top game.



ture but he tried to take both of them to the ground and couldn't. and I wouldn't say he outboxed the crap out of griffin, that was a close fight.
Jackelope
12/10/08 7:54:30PM

Posted by nickcuc547


Posted by Pookie


Posted by nickcuc547

sherks wrestling is a little overrated, remember when he couldn't bring nick diaz or bj penn or tyson griffin to the ground, something tells me he won't be able to get diego there either.



Well Bj Penn has one of (if not the very best) sprawl in mma, Tyson Griffin and Nick diaz both got the shit boxed out of them on the feet IMO, not sure why sherk would want to take them down when hes winning on the feet and he on the norm gets shit for his (sometimes) excruciatingly boring top game.



ture but he tried to take both of them to the ground and couldn't. and I wouldn't say he outboxed the crap out of griffin, that was a close fight.



What fight were you watching in Sherk vs. Griffin? If memory serves correctly Sherk was 2/2 on takedowns in that fight, and Griffin didn't land any.
theguido
12/11/08 10:35:24PM
I think Manyard is a perfect place for Sanchez to start. It gives us a a good Idea of where Diego stands in a group full of high energh highly talanted fighters full of strong wrestlers and exciting strikers.
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