Shane Carwin's post UFC 100 thoughts

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Jackelope
7/13/09 1:04:15AM
You can check this out at Shane Carwin's web page- www.shane-carwin.com

Normally I wouldn't post something like this, but I thought there were some very interesting things said in here that many of the fans can appreciate.


What a great weekend it was. The UFC fan EXPO had like 35,000 amazing fans who knew their favorite fighters and personality were in the hall. My trip to the EXPO seemed like a whirlwind. I was picked up by the owner of Warrior Wear, Nathan, at the airport and ushered to the Warrior Wear booth. The expo hall was full of brands you see on fighters and brands that I had never seen before. The hall was packed and I was starting to feel a bit overwhelmed. Then looking down I notice my amazing wife is with me and realized I will be fine.

The first hour or so the line just kept growing. I could not really tell how long it was but Nathan said he thought the line for autographs at our booth was 1/4 mile long. Lani told me the lines would make Walt Disney smile they were that long. Every fan I met was so awesome, they were as pleased to meet me as I was them. No one complained about the wait.


After a long day of meet and greets i headed to my room for a quick change and refresh. We headed to dinner with Nathan and his crew and it must have been midnight before we were done with dinner. In Colorado we would have never found a steak house open till midnight, but this place was just starting to get busy. Vegas is very surreal.

After dinner I tried to track down this Sirrius reporter my manager had asked me to do an interview with, it was too late and he was not answering his phone. We decided to call it a night and get ready for a long Saturday.

Saturday we woke up and I can't even remember the order of the booths I went too. I think I started at Nightrider Jewelry. Nightrider has made a line of Jewelry inspired by me so I went over to lend my hand and help them introduce the line to the fans. Nightriderjewelry.com if you want to check it out.

I then went over to the Demented Customs booth for MTX Audio. Those guys were showing of Keith Jardine and Rashads vehicles that they had restored. I have a 66SS El Camino I may have them do, but I want to be sure to keep it classic.


From their it was back to the Warrior Wear booth. I know I was their till at least 2:30 because the UFC started calling my cell about me being late to the booth. My manager told them I might be late and if I was it was because I was servicing fans at the Warrior Wear booth. At around 2:45 I was able to make it to the UFC booth and I signed there up until the prelims began.

The fight card was great. Tom Lawlor's walkout was hillarious. He backed that goofyness up too which will endure him tot he fans. CB did not TAP and that is one way to go about changing what people say about you. Mark Coleman showed that no matter the age you can always out workk the young wippersnappers. Sexyamya won the hearts of Italian fans world wide.

The main card did not let us down. Each match was put together perfectly and in the end the fans got to see a great display of technique, talent and heart. I cannot say I was surprised by anything that night other then Brock's reaction to beating a very tough Frank Mir. Frank is a legend and a great guy who got out powered not out classed. The sponsor issue, you need to talk to your manager not the fans or Dana.

The flipping off of the fans that just lined your pocket with millions of dollars is just LAME. He may be a Champion but he has a long ways to go before he earns the respect of a Champion. The fans are why we do this Brock, this sport is not about fat paychecks and drama it is about hard work and sacrifice for a shot to do what you did last night. It doesn't matter how much money you make if you can't earn your peers respect and the respect and love of the greatest sporting fans in the world. We have no scripts in this sport, no pre-determined earning amount and no pre-determined outcomes. It doesn't matter if you win or loose it matters how you win or loose.

Every autograph I give, every hand I shake I am thankful that you give me the opportunity to be a part of your world. This is the greatest sport int he world and most of the athletes in it deserve the love and respect they get and some just dont get it.

From leaving the venue all the way to the Airport I have had fans of the sport ask me to take out Brock Lesnar for them. The thing is I have a very tough fight ahead of me that IMO is every bit as tough and talented as Brock. Cain is no joke and he may have had a tough fight against Kongo but I got rocked against Gonzaga. Fact is we are at the top of the HWT division and anyone we fight moving forward is going to be a real test. Cain is nothing short of a super athlete with amazing wrestling and he trains with one of the best camps in the country. I am sure Joe Silva told Cain the same thing he told us, winner gets the title shot. Cain is not looking past me he is looking right at me as the person that is in his way from potentially one of the greatest opportunities of his life and mine.

I have said what I have to say about Brock. He will make sure the world knows who he is and what he is all about. I ask that you my fans and the fans of Cain give this fight its due. You would never see two rising undefeated stars put together in Boxing so enjoy this fight. Two warriors with wills to win and the skills to do so are going to show those watching UFC 104 what the future of the sport will look like. Tune in and support Cain and I.

Naturaldisaster
7/13/09 4:48:18AM
I respected shane carwin before but i just earned alot more respect for him after reading that
shane
7/13/09 5:32:24AM
Class act none the less.

Win or lose I'm sure we'll see big things from this guy.
Rush
7/13/09 9:24:59AM
Some good words. I hope he backs them up with future actions of a similar calibre
nickcuc547
7/13/09 12:47:14PM
i hope lesnar smashes him and taunts him afterwards, you want to talk smack about brock you better back it up or you're gonna hear it.
Naturaldisaster
7/13/09 3:51:18PM

Posted by nickcuc547

i hope lesnar smashes him and taunts him afterwards, you want to talk smack about brock you better back it up or you're gonna hear it.



he wasnt talkin smack about brock he was stating the obvious
Jackelope
7/13/09 4:57:46PM

Posted by nickcuc547

i hope lesnar smashes him and taunts him afterwards, you want to talk smack about brock you better back it up or you're gonna hear it.



This is the greatest sport in the world and most of the athletes in it deserve the love and respect they get and some just dont get it.

Perhaps that same thing applies to fans?
nickcuc547
7/13/09 5:13:55PM
"The flipping off of the fans that just lined your pocket with millions of dollars is just LAME. He may be a Champion but he has a long ways to go before he earns the respect of a Champion. The fans are why we do this Brock, this sport is not about fat paychecks and drama it is about hard work and sacrifice for a shot to do what you did last night. It doesn't matter how much money you make if you can't earn your peers respect and the respect and love of the greatest sporting fans in the world. We have no scripts in this sport, no pre-determined earning amount and no pre-determined outcomes. It doesn't matter if you win or loose it matters how you win or loose."

this isn't bad mouthing, maybe if carwin weren't so ignorant to the fact that the fans were handing it to him before the fight started and chanting stand em up as brock is pounding mir's face.
jiujitsufreak74
7/13/09 5:30:19PM

Posted by nickcuc547

"The flipping off of the fans that just lined your pocket with millions of dollars is just LAME. He may be a Champion but he has a long ways to go before he earns the respect of a Champion. The fans are why we do this Brock, this sport is not about fat paychecks and drama it is about hard work and sacrifice for a shot to do what you did last night. It doesn't matter how much money you make if you can't earn your peers respect and the respect and love of the greatest sporting fans in the world. We have no scripts in this sport, no pre-determined earning amount and no pre-determined outcomes. It doesn't matter if you win or loose it matters how you win or loose."

this isn't bad mouthing, maybe if carwin weren't so ignorant to the fact that the fans were handing it to him before the fight started and chanting stand em up as brock is pounding mir's face.



all Carwin is saying is that Borck was extremely disrespectful and he is calling him out on it. Brock acted like a complete tool, and whether or not that is good for the sport in terms of publicity is not the issue Carwin is addressing. he is not questioning the strength or ability of Brock, but rather his class and attitude in both winning and losing. no one likes a sore winner or a sore loser, even if they may draw more fans to the sport.
nickcuc547
7/13/09 5:35:36PM

Posted by jiujitsufreak74


Posted by nickcuc547

"The flipping off of the fans that just lined your pocket with millions of dollars is just LAME. He may be a Champion but he has a long ways to go before he earns the respect of a Champion. The fans are why we do this Brock, this sport is not about fat paychecks and drama it is about hard work and sacrifice for a shot to do what you did last night. It doesn't matter how much money you make if you can't earn your peers respect and the respect and love of the greatest sporting fans in the world. We have no scripts in this sport, no pre-determined earning amount and no pre-determined outcomes. It doesn't matter if you win or loose it matters how you win or loose."

this isn't bad mouthing, maybe if carwin weren't so ignorant to the fact that the fans were handing it to him before the fight started and chanting stand em up as brock is pounding mir's face.



all Carwin is saying is that Borck was extremely disrespectful and he is calling him out on it. Brock acted like a complete tool, and whether or not that is good for the sport in terms of publicity is not the issue Carwin is addressing. he is not questioning the strength or ability of Brock, but rather his class and attitude in both winning and losing. no one likes a sore winner or a sore loser, even if they may draw more fans to the sport.



and all i'm saying is that he should watch what he says about brock, it didn't work out so well for frank mir.
Jackelope
7/13/09 5:40:34PM
It boils down to respect. Lesnar obviously has some kind of huge chip on his shoulder that he's had since he started. Nobody is saying you don't have to like the guy, but flipping off the fans and pissing off the company's sponsorship are a bit over the line. That's what Shane is talking about when he says some people just don't get it.

If I were a company owner I'd say it's a safe assumption that I'd be pretty pissed off if one of my employees managed to, in the span of a couple sentences, piss off both my main forms of income. 1) the Fans and 2) my main sponsorship. If Shane wasn't right then you wouldn't have seen Lesnar drinking a bud light at the press conference.

nickcuc547
7/13/09 5:45:29PM

Posted by Jackelope

It boils down to respect. Lesnar obviously has some kind of huge chip on his shoulder that he's had since he started. Nobody is saying you don't have to like the guy, but flipping off the fans and pissing off the company's sponsorship are a bit over the line. That's what Shane is talking about when he says some people just don't get it.

If I were a company owner I'd say it's a safe assumption that I'd be pretty pissed off if one of my employees managed to, in the span of a couple sentences, piss off both my main forms of income. 1) the Fans and 2) my main sponsorship. If Shane wasn't right then you wouldn't have seen Lesnar drinking a bud light at the press conference.




agree on the sponsor thing and the over the top post fight interview, they were a bit uncalled for and just made him look dumb, my issue is with the fans, they were complete classless clowns and lesnar, while he may have chose the wrong venue, was venting his frustrations. i just thought it was a bit disingenious for carwin to "say the right thing" and be all about the fans, i don't know how he would act if he's getting booed the entire fight as he is dismantling a former champ, brock was just returning the respect he was given.
Jackelope
7/13/09 6:49:46PM
I understand and I don't necessarily like fans booing fighters either, but here are my counter arguments to what you're saying-

1) Fans pay the bills. That's it. Bar none. Without the fans, you're nothing and the company is nothing. So they're allowed a little bit of wiggle room and should be treated with respect lest you wish to kill your own paycheck.

2) This isn't the WWE. This is a professional sport ran by sanctioning bodies, and if you continue to act like a spoiled child you won't be rewarded for your actions like you would in the WWE. Case in point- Mike Pyle, Wes Sims and Gilbert Yvel. These guys have allowed their emotions to get the best of them at times and as a result of that they have had trouble getting permission to fight in certain bouts or for certain companies.

Obviously with Lesnar there is a bit more gray area with these than there would be with some unknown fighter. Make no mistake, though- if this was an up and comer not named Brock Lesnar he'd be gone already. Carwin had to earn his way to this spot, and Lesnar didn't. That's why specifically I used the "spoiled child" analogy. A lot of fans and a lot of other fighters resent this about Lesnar. It's all part of "getting it" IMO, and it's why Lesnar could still use some humility in mine and a lot of other people's opinions
noahgenda
7/13/09 7:06:19PM
no **** brock lesnar was disrespectful after the fight. he was disrespectful before it, and will be disrespectful in the future. he is a disrespectful person. his entire steeze is built around not giving anyone any respect. that is why people tune in. he is a cocky asshole and a beast of a human being. very rock and roll



and you talk about how a lot of fighters and fans feel like he was gifted his position, ie they dont respect him. MAYBE THATS WHY HE DOESNT RESPECT THEM BACK? he has proven he has the physical ability to be where he is, straight up. if youre going to talk about him not deserving his spot he has no reason to respect you as a fan. so stfu, youre still gonna pay to watch him fight anyway
D0wnUnd6e6r
7/13/09 7:49:05PM
very interesting read
Jackelope
7/13/09 8:10:19PM

Posted by noahgenda

no **** brock lesnar was disrespectful after the fight. he was disrespectful before it, and will be disrespectful in the future. he is a disrespectful person. his entire steeze is built around not giving anyone any respect. that is why people tune in. he is a cocky asshole and a beast of a human being. very rock and roll



and you talk about how a lot of fighters and fans feel like he was gifted his position, ie they dont respect him. MAYBE THATS WHY HE DOESNT RESPECT THEM BACK? he has proven he has the physical ability to be where he is, straight up. if youre going to talk about him not deserving his spot he has no reason to respect you as a fan. so stfu, youre still gonna pay to watch him fight anyway



I've already warned several members today. I'm not quite sure where people are getting the idea that this is a site they can get away with posts like this. However, familiarize yourself with the rules of the site before ANY of you make posts anything remotely similar to this.

On a topic related note I'm not going to comment too much on it, but I think posts like this only illustrate the fact that Lesnar's supporters seem to be the ones making these kind of insulting posts, and that in and of itself is a testament to the problems people have with Lesnar being involved in the sport and his actions in the Octagon.
Shadymlm
7/14/09 1:18:22AM
I think Brock was wrong with the sponsors and with Mir but somewhat justified in his actions towards the fans. And to be honest with you I think the fans i attendance enjoyed it too! Kinda like the love to hate thing. When you say something to someone or boo them you love getting that reaction out of that person or team.

And as far as peer respect I think most of them are hypocrites. How many people would turn down a title shot just because they feel like they didn't earn it? Very Few. It's not how you got the opportunity it's what you make of it and right now Brock is making the best of it.
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