Posted by telnights
Posted by Jackelope
Despite my earlier post I agree with this statement. I just think if anything this shows how limited the depth in the UFC's HW division is.
I mean, think about it this way- Should Cain Velasquez win you'll have a guy with 7 career total fights going up against a guy who has 6 career total fights for the HW belt. That just doesn't add up IMO. It shows how weak the HW division is.
I feel like Carwin proved more by beating Gonzaga than Cain did by beating Kongo. They both showed they can last through adversity, but Carwin showed he could get back to his feet after being rocked by a powerful, powerful striker in Gonzaga, and he also showed he can get back up from the bottom against someone who probably has some of the most devastating top game BJJ of all HW's.
Cain, on the other hand, proved something we know, and 1 thing we didn't know- He proved Kongo has still got a long way to go in the wrestling department. (which we all knew) and he proved that Kongo wears a thong, which we all didn't know
Well I don't think its the lack of depth of the UFC HW division I think it just the fact that you have fighters coming in to MMA now days that have great back grounds, are great athletes, and joining great camps right off the bat. Plus the other issue is there aren't very many true HWs around. Most rankings have the UFC holding 6 to 7 of the top ten HWs in the world. I think truly out of all the weight classes I think HW is the most lacking. But I think this holds true for all of MMA and not just one organization.
I agree that MMA overall lacks HW competitors. I also espouse the idea that there are very few true HW's. If you don't weigh in above 250 lbs then I don't consider you a TRUE HW. That's why I've always been an advocate for a 235 lb weight class. That's not to knock on guys who have been wildly successful at HW despite weighing in under 250, it's just part of what adds fuel to this fire of under experienced HW's.
I'm just saying, naming anybody outside of a UFC top 10 HW list is pretty difficult to do with a straight face.
7 Dos Santos
13 Al Turk?
I mean.. once you get past 10 it seems like it doesn't even matter at HW
To top all of that off outside of the UFC HW seems like it has become a joke, too. You have guys like Arlovski whom was once considered a top 3 HW that has now been KTFO'd several times in a row.
If the UFC was able to sign Barnett, Overeem, Rogers, Fedor, Werdum, I'd be singing a whole different tune. Get rid of Struve, Al Turk, Hardonk, Barry, etc. etc. and replace them with those guys, and then you're talking.