secondary league combo card results

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pmoney
6/24/12 12:46:19PM
Via officialxfc.com

Reggie Pena def. John Salter by submission (guillotine) Rd 2 (0:36)

Scott Barrett def. Gabriel Salinas-Jones by split decision (30-27, 28-29, 30-27)

Joe Ray def. Dustin West by submission (arm triangle) Rd 2 (1:04)


Via Yahoo sports
Renato Babalu Sobral def. Tatsuya Mizuno by Arm Bar, R1

Zorobabel Moreira def. Roger Huerta by KO (Soccer Kick), R2

Via Sherdog

Travis Wiuff def. Chris Davis, Rd 1 tko (4:12)

Brett Rogers def. Kevin Asplund Rd 2 tko (5:00)

Atilla Vegh def. Zelg Galesic via submission (Rnc rd 1, 1:00)

Fedor Emelianenko def. Pedro Rizzo Rd 1 Ko (1:24)


Apparently the Rich Hale fight was scrapped. His opponent fought, Hale didn't.
Budgellism
6/24/12 12:53:40PM
I can't remember how I picked. I know I got the Fedor fight right and the HB but my other picks are a little cloudy in my head.
pmoney
6/24/12 12:56:04PM

Posted by Budgellism

I can't remember how I picked. I know I got the Fedor fight right and the HB but my other picks are a little cloudy in my head.



I remember I picked Galesic, and when I read the play by play I thought he won. Apparently I misread that night...
Twenty20Dollars
6/24/12 1:00:10PM
There might be a lock time issue, might not have locked in time when some of the fights happened.
FlashyG
6/24/12 1:34:53PM

Posted by Twenty20Dollars

There might be a lock time issue, might not have locked in time when some of the fights happened.



I broke a long Hiatus from the secondary league at the beginning of this season.

Starting back into the league with 2 straight scratched cards would convince me I'm bad luck for the game and I'll go back to picking primary only.
Twenty20Dollars
6/24/12 1:38:05PM

Posted by FlashyG


Posted by Twenty20Dollars

There might be a lock time issue, might not have locked in time when some of the fights happened.



I broke a long Hiatus from the secondary league at the beginning of this season.

Starting back into the league with 2 straight scratched cards would convince me I'm bad luck for the game and I'll go back to picking primary only.



I have been thinking lately that League 2 should be just scrapped entirely, with not many cards and there are too many late scratches to keep up with.
pmoney
6/24/12 2:44:17PM
I believe the Fedor fight was the only one that was a lock issue. I believe that fight went on after the lock. Even if it didn't, I believe that's still 8 fights after the second scrapped fight.
kopower
6/24/12 3:22:22PM
Correct. I believe grappler was made aware, so I'm wondering if the Fedor/Rizzo fight will be taken off. Would suck if the first two secondary cards were scrapped. I think I did well in both of them.
Budgellism
6/24/12 3:25:01PM

Posted by Twenty20Dollars


Posted by FlashyG


Posted by Twenty20Dollars

There might be a lock time issue, might not have locked in time when some of the fights happened.



I broke a long Hiatus from the secondary league at the beginning of this season.

Starting back into the league with 2 straight scratched cards would convince me I'm bad luck for the game and I'll go back to picking primary only.



I have been thinking lately that League 2 should be just scrapped entirely, with not many cards and there are too many late scratches to keep up with.



I've said it several times before but there are a ton of familiar names fighting every single weekend. They just need to be considered. If Fedor/Rizzo wasn't too much of a squash match to be used then we can easily find 15 fights every weekend that are acceptable to use imo.
Budgellism
6/24/12 3:27:18PM
That Fedor fight didn't start until nearly 3:30 ET by the time they had finished walking out and playing both national anthems. I'm assuming that fight is good but I made my picks several days before and didn't really check them much after that. I have no idea when it actually locked.
prophecy033
6/24/12 3:43:11PM

Posted by Budgellism


Posted by Twenty20Dollars


Posted by FlashyG


Posted by Twenty20Dollars

There might be a lock time issue, might not have locked in time when some of the fights happened.



I broke a long Hiatus from the secondary league at the beginning of this season.

Starting back into the league with 2 straight scratched cards would convince me I'm bad luck for the game and I'll go back to picking primary only.



I have been thinking lately that League 2 should be just scrapped entirely, with not many cards and there are too many late scratches to keep up with.



I've said it several times before but there are a ton of familiar names fighting every single weekend. They just need to be considered. If Fedor/Rizzo wasn't too much of a squash match to be used then we can easily find 15 fights every weekend that are acceptable to use imo.

Twenty20Dollars
6/24/12 6:01:38PM

Posted by Budgellism

I've said it several times before but there are a ton of familiar names fighting every single weekend. They just need to be considered. If Fedor/Rizzo wasn't too much of a squash match to be used then we can easily find 15 fights every weekend that are acceptable to use imo.



But there are too many late scratches and can't be updated in time with these smaller cards.
FlashyG
6/24/12 6:13:18PM

Posted by pmoney

I believe the Fedor fight was the only one that was a lock issue. I believe that fight went on after the lock. Even if it didn't, I believe that's still 8 fights after the second scrapped fight.



I think the lock happened before that fight.

I checked to see if I could change my pick before it started and it was already locked then.

The event might have started but the Fedor fight definitely hadn't. Unless my stream was severely delayed.
Budgellism
6/24/12 7:49:41PM

Posted by Twenty20Dollars


Posted by Budgellism

I've said it several times before but there are a ton of familiar names fighting every single weekend. They just need to be considered. If Fedor/Rizzo wasn't too much of a squash match to be used then we can easily find 15 fights every weekend that are acceptable to use imo.



But there are too many late scratches and can't be updated in time with these smaller cards.



Says who though? I follow these smaller cards all the time. Yes, sometimes fights get scrapped the day before or the day of the event but in that case we have 14 other fights to fall back on. That's the reason why I want more fights on these cards. Why throw the secondary league out all together when there are still hundreds of people who still make picks and enjoy it?
Twenty20Dollars
6/24/12 8:01:23PM

Posted by Budgellism


Posted by Twenty20Dollars


Posted by Budgellism

I've said it several times before but there are a ton of familiar names fighting every single weekend. They just need to be considered. If Fedor/Rizzo wasn't too much of a squash match to be used then we can easily find 15 fights every weekend that are acceptable to use imo.



But there are too many late scratches and can't be updated in time with these smaller cards.



Says who? I follow these smaller cards all the time. Sometimes fights get scrapped the day of the event, sure but in that case we have 14 other fights to fall back on. That's the reason why I want more fights on these cards. Why throw the secondary league out all together when there are still hundreds of people who still make picks and enjoy it?



But, we aren't picking the full card on these events. It might be different if we were, but we aren't.
pmoney
6/24/12 8:05:21PM

Posted by Budgellism

Sometimes fights get scrapped the day of the event, sure but in that case we have 14 other fights to fall back on. That's the reason why I want more fights on these cards. Why throw the secondary league out all together when there are still hundreds of people who still make picks and enjoy it?





There are lots of people that still love L2. 600+ people played last season. Lack of cards, small cards, cards getting dropped due to scratches, these things discourage and drive people away. Combine all that with the fact no one is notified when cards are added, here we are, down 1,000 L2 participants over the last year and a half.

If we had more cards, more fights, more notice and quicker updates, that might bring people back and get the league going again.
Budgellism
6/24/12 8:06:37PM

Posted by Twenty20Dollars


Posted by Budgellism


Posted by Twenty20Dollars


Posted by Budgellism

I've said it several times before but there are a ton of familiar names fighting every single weekend. They just need to be considered. If Fedor/Rizzo wasn't too much of a squash match to be used then we can easily find 15 fights every weekend that are acceptable to use imo.



But there are too many late scratches and can't be updated in time with these smaller cards.



Says who? I follow these smaller cards all the time. Sometimes fights get scrapped the day of the event, sure but in that case we have 14 other fights to fall back on. That's the reason why I want more fights on these cards. Why throw the secondary league out all together when there are still hundreds of people who still make picks and enjoy it?



But, we aren't picking the full card on these events. It might be different if we were, but we aren't.



No, we're picking bits and pieces of several events. We have the potential to add multiple fights from multiple promotions. From what I've seen they can make at least 18 fight cards from several different events. There are no shortage of promotions holding events every weekend. Usually 10 to anywhere up to 30+ events in a single weekend. Take a bunch of fights from Bellator (which will be a weekly event) and then bits and pieces from other events. Very easy to build a 15 fight card from that.
Twenty20Dollars
6/24/12 10:29:49PM

Posted by Budgellism

No, we're picking bits and pieces of several events. We have the potential to add multiple fights from multiple promotions. From what I've seen they can make at least 18 fight cards from several different events. There are no shortage of promotions holding events every weekend. Usually 10 to anywhere up to 30+ events in a single weekend. Take a bunch of fights from Bellator (which will be a weekly event) and then bits and pieces from other events. Very easy to build a 15 fight card from that.



But, we've got one busy guy, who controls it and I'm sure it's a lot work for him to keep up with.

Budgellism
6/24/12 11:25:37PM

Posted by Twenty20Dollars


Posted by Budgellism

No, we're picking bits and pieces of several events. We have the potential to add multiple fights from multiple promotions. From what I've seen they can make at least 18 fight cards from several different events. There are no shortage of promotions holding events every weekend. Usually 10 to anywhere up to 30+ events in a single weekend. Take a bunch of fights from Bellator (which will be a weekly event) and then bits and pieces from other events. Very easy to build a 15 fight card from that.



But, we've got one busy guy, who controls it and I'm sure it's a lot work for him to keep up with.




I agree. I would love to give him and hand with it but obviously I'm a stranger to him and I haven't been a forum poster for a very long time. Kpro knows more than I do with secondary type cards as well though and he's a respected member. He's also voiced concerns with the secondary league in the past. I don't want to speak for the guy but if they needed a hand I'm sure he would be all for it.

I don't mean to sound like an ungrateful, needy prick with all these posts. I know a lot of work goes into this site behind the scenes and these guys clearly care about the site and its members. I just love where the site is going and I would like to see this area of the site progress with the rest of it. I'd be bummed if they had to get rid of it all together and I know a lot of other members would feel the same way.
Kpro
6/27/12 3:51:09AM

Posted by Budgellism

I agree. I would love to give him and hand with it but obviously I'm a stranger to him and I haven't been a forum poster for a very long time. Kpro knows more than I do with secondary type cards as well though and he's a respected member. He's also voiced concerns with the secondary league in the past. I don't want to speak for the guy but if they needed a hand I'm sure he would be all for it.

I don't mean to sound like an ungrateful, needy prick with all these posts. I know a lot of work goes into this site behind the scenes and these guys clearly care about the site and its members. I just love where the site is going and I would like to see this area of the site progress with the rest of it. I'd be bummed if they had to get rid of it all together and I know a lot of other members would feel the same way.



Yeah, I'm looking forward to the new changes and hope things are a lot more streamlined. I've sent in fight cards for L2 in the past including at least a dozen fights that would all be on HDNet and/or streamed online at Junkie, Sherdog, etc and was told their wasn't enough there to make an 8 fight card. If there was no seal of approval on if L2 has enough `name value`, I'd compile a 14-18 fight card for every single weekend because the 10% who play, know these guys or are playing to get to know these guys. I know all of the new changes will be great for the site, I just am not sure how much thought L2 received in the revamp so I'm very eager to see. As always, I'm available to help with it.
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