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skinnyb
9/1/07 12:13:27AM
if u are just starting out into the mma world i suggest that u jog 20 minutes on a treadmill everyday and tack on 2 minutes a week trust me by ur first fight ull be in the best shape of ur life stamina wise
Svartorm
9/1/07 2:16:00AM
I suggest you don't post in the training forum again. 20 minutes a day for cardio? Thats a joke if you're doing 3 five minute rounds. Hell, thats a joke if you're doing 1 five minute round.
skinnyb
9/1/07 2:27:06AM
not for all day thats just while ur on a treadmill man u have to do other stuff like weight training running up and down stairs leg squats stuff of that sort for all day training
fedorwins1
9/1/07 12:49:53PM
SPRINTS SPRINTS SPRINTS!!

Forget long jogs
Mastodon2
9/1/07 3:03:20PM
But long jogs are great for cutting excess fat, so I wouldn't "forget" them altogether. Sprints are good though, anaerobic fitness is essential in MMA, or any martial art for that matter.
fedorwins1
9/1/07 3:26:44PM

Posted by Mastodon2

But long jogs are great for cutting excess fat, so I wouldn't "forget" them altogether. Sprints are good though, anaerobic fitness is essential in MMA, or any martial art for that matter.



Yeah very true, I was saying if you're in shape and don't need to lose alot of weight and you want to increase cardio for fighting sprinting is the way to go.
Mithra
9/1/07 6:18:38PM

Posted by Mastodon2

But long jogs are great for cutting excess fat, so I wouldn't "forget" them altogether. Sprints are good though, anaerobic fitness is essential in MMA, or any martial art for that matter.



Sprints are better for cutting fat...

If you want to get in shape for MMA, do cardio according to round lengths.

So get a timer and work as hard as you can for 5 minutes(sprinting, jump roping, burpees etc...).

Take a minute break and then do 5 more minutes.

Do that for 3 rounds and then move up to 5 rounds.

Omega
9/1/07 6:42:16PM

Posted by Svartorm

I suggest you don't post in the training forum again. 20 minutes a day for cardio? Thats a joke if you're doing 3 five minute rounds. Hell, thats a joke if you're doing 1 five minute round.



You got to this before I did.
Omega
9/1/07 6:46:39PM

Posted by Mithra


Posted by Mastodon2

But long jogs are great for cutting excess fat, so I wouldn't "forget" them altogether. Sprints are good though, anaerobic fitness is essential in MMA, or any martial art for that matter.



Sprints are better for cutting fat...

If you want to get in shape for MMA, do cardio according to round lengths.

So get a timer and work as hard as you can for 5 minutes(sprinting, jump roping, burpees etc...).

Take a minute break and then do 5 more minutes.

Do that for 3 rounds and then move up to 5 rounds.




No, you don't know what you're talking about. Again if you don't have experiance in these matters please don't talk like you do.

If you would like to do the round conditioning it will be constant change in pace, all you're doing by going as hard as you can for 5 minutes is forcing your body to plateu at specific levels. When you're body get's pushed beyond those levels it won't have the conditioning to deal with it.

A fight is a constant speeding up and slowing down, changing of muscle groups, rarely will you find yourself doing the same thing for 5 straight minutes. Ladder runs and various sprints to simulate a 5 minute round is what I would suggest.
fedorwins1
9/1/07 7:04:08PM
Yes, and I've heard that another good cardio workout is to jog at a mild pace and then randomly sprint as hard as you can for a couple of seconds and then go back to the mild pace again. I know Chuck Liddel does this.
Omega
9/1/07 7:09:46PM

Posted by fedorwins1

Yes, and I've heard that another good cardio workout is to jog at a mild pace and then randomly sprint as hard as you can for a couple of seconds and then go back to the mild pace again. I know Chuck Liddel does this.



yup....
Mithra
9/1/07 8:54:33PM

Posted by Omega


Posted by Mithra


Posted by Mastodon2

But long jogs are great for cutting excess fat, so I wouldn't "forget" them altogether. Sprints are good though, anaerobic fitness is essential in MMA, or any martial art for that matter.



Sprints are better for cutting fat...

If you want to get in shape for MMA, do cardio according to round lengths.

So get a timer and work as hard as you can for 5 minutes(sprinting, jump roping, burpees etc...).

Take a minute break and then do 5 more minutes.

Do that for 3 rounds and then move up to 5 rounds.




No, you don't know what you're talking about. Again if you don't have experiance in these matters please don't talk like you do.

If you would like to do the round conditioning it will be constant change in pace, all you're doing by going as hard as you can for 5 minutes is forcing your body to plateu at specific levels. When you're body get's pushed beyond those levels it won't have the conditioning to deal with it.

A fight is a constant speeding up and slowing down, changing of muscle groups, rarely will you find yourself doing the same thing for 5 straight minutes. Ladder runs and various sprints to simulate a 5 minute round is what I would suggest.



Where the hell did I suggest only doing one thing for 5 straight minutes?


Rush
9/1/07 9:01:11PM
I've been running for a long time. I am running a marathon at the end of the month and have a very competitive 5km run time.

There are different types of running cardio. Mainly, there is one for having your heart pump at about 60-70% of it's max rate for a long time. In this case you want to maintain this heart rate (it will differ with age) without letting it climb or drop. A good rule of thumb is that your heart should be beating fast, but not so fast that you cannot carry on a conversation.

There is also cardio training by running your heart rate up to 90% (for a short period) or so and then letting it slow down. This helps your recovery times. A good heart will be able to slow down (recover) really fast.

Either one would be good for MMA. Get a heart monitor too.


Long runs are good for training your muscles to feed off of fat. If you can maintain an aerobic level of exercise for a long time, your muscles will develop a higher density of mitochondria, which in turn are used to make ATP (your body's energy source). Long runs are also great for learning how to mentally cope with bodily stress. Run for 2+ hours at a pace of 5min per km and you'll know of what I speak. Long runs also help you learn to relax and only use the muscles you need to use. They are also good to help you train your breathing technique

Sprints are great for building explosiveness.


Just look at the bodies of a Olympic sprinter vs a marathon runner. The sprinter is more muscular and the marathoner is more lean. IMO, you want something in between for MMA. However, I think long runs are more important because you can build explosiveness by doing stair runs and plyometrics. Keep in mind that is my opinion.


Tip for running
Get a really good pair of shoes from a running store. Make sure they fit the length and width of your feet and also have the proper support for you level of pronation. Your toes, feet, knees and back will thank you for it.
Omega
9/2/07 12:42:10AM

Posted by Mithra


Posted by Omega


Posted by Mithra


Posted by Mastodon2

But long jogs are great for cutting excess fat, so I wouldn't "forget" them altogether. Sprints are good though, anaerobic fitness is essential in MMA, or any martial art for that matter.



Sprints are better for cutting fat...

If you want to get in shape for MMA, do cardio according to round lengths.

So get a timer and work as hard as you can for 5 minutes(sprinting, jump roping, burpees etc...).

Take a minute break and then do 5 more minutes.

Do that for 3 rounds and then move up to 5 rounds.




No, you don't know what you're talking about. Again if you don't have experiance in these matters please don't talk like you do.

If you would like to do the round conditioning it will be constant change in pace, all you're doing by going as hard as you can for 5 minutes is forcing your body to plateu at specific levels. When you're body get's pushed beyond those levels it won't have the conditioning to deal with it.

A fight is a constant speeding up and slowing down, changing of muscle groups, rarely will you find yourself doing the same thing for 5 straight minutes. Ladder runs and various sprints to simulate a 5 minute round is what I would suggest.



Where the hell did I suggest only doing one thing for 5 straight minutes?





"So get a timer and work as hard as you can for 5 minutes(sprinting, jump roping, burpees etc...)."

You work in intervals not at full capacity for 5 minutes. Now, if this what you meant to say that's fine but it doesn't read that way.
Jackelope
9/2/07 3:46:35AM
I would personally suggest a mixture of distance running and sprinting type cardio exercise.

Running distance does something that is extremely important for MMA outside of cardio. It builds leg bone density like almost nothing can. Unfortunately with that you also get a lot of beat down put on your joints from distance running.

Sprinting will get your heart rate to levels beyond those which distance running can provide, and also sprinting builds completely different muscles in your legs than distance running does. Fast twitch vs. slow twitch. You've all heard it before.

There's arguments on both sides, but definitely no absolutes. Hence, middle ground
fedorwins1
9/2/07 12:56:01PM
It would be cool to be able to go to a place like Couture does with all the trampolines. Low impact running, it's really hard to run on trampolines, and it's probably really fun also.
mikevolz
9/3/07 12:16:54AM
i know in rugby, ill sprint 100 meters jog back to the start and then sprint it again.

ill work my way up to doing 10 of those in a row, taking about 35-40 seconds on the jog back, and keeping less than a 2-3 second drop off time in your first sprint and your last sprint.

but thats rugby.
skinnyb
9/3/07 1:16:26AM
rugby all the way man!!!
Mastodon2
9/3/07 8:15:55AM

Posted by fedorwins1

It would be cool to be able to go to a place like Couture does with all the trampolines. Low impact running, it's really hard to run on trampolines, and it's probably really fun also.



Yeah that looked like great fun, I bet its really easy on your joints too, a great way to train without getting injured*

*unless you are a goon and manage to fall over and twist an ankle or something while bouncing
Stickan
9/3/07 10:17:22AM

Posted by Mastodon2


Posted by fedorwins1

It would be cool to be able to go to a place like Couture does with all the trampolines. Low impact running, it's really hard to run on trampolines, and it's probably really fun also.



Yeah that looked like great fun, I bet its really easy on your joints too, a great way to train without getting injured*

*unless you are a goon and manage to fall over and twist an ankle or something while bouncing


Yeah when I saw that all access I wanted to be there so bad. Bounce on my ass and just act like a retard.
I bet if all the world leaders were put in a place like that, they would all be bouncing around acting like kids and never declare war again.......maybe.
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