Posted by lll-lll
Posted by Pookie
I think Nog picks him apart with his reach, and volume attack on the inside. Nog has never had trouble against someone that had shorter arms than him, short of prime Fedor. Plus Nelson on his back isn't quite a BJJ BB. Nog can sweep him and keep him there all round if it hit's the ground.
Kongo is a harder match for Nog IMO, and Kongo a perfect fight for Nelson.
No disrespect but I think you are living in the past with the Nog comments. His chin is shot. He is on the verge of the Couture/Liddell chin meltdown and Nelson is the perfect guy to capitalize on that. He doesnt have the power to keep Nelson off of him. If that 6'4 athletic specimen Herman couldnt keep from getting hammered I doubt Nog will. And Herman has power.
Couture's chin isn't even shot. He has old man reflexes and can't dodge good enough anymore. Couture doesnt fit the Liddell comparison, nor does comparing Couture's chin to Nog's make any sense at all.
No disrespect but i think you are living in an alternate reality. Herman has horrible boxing defense, and wasn't even throwing those powerful, power shots that you speak of. He was throwing push kicks and Jabs. And got caught over the top throwing a lazy Jab.
On top of that, Power has less to do with keeping an opponent from collapsing range than literally everything else i can think of.
Threat of a takedown - can make you wary of collapsing range
Speed - Hard to collapse range by virtue of smaller openings
Footwork - Hard to collapse range because the range keeps being re-established.
Accuracy - Hard to collapse range because you're eating shots to come in
Threat of the clinch - makes you wary to come in because you can get tied up and neutralized
Stamina - Can be dumb to collapse range, because it causes you to work harder than them, and they have a bigger gas tank to begin with.
Power can make you wary of collapsing range if they have proven they can get you coming in with any of the above skills. But its the other skills that make enforce the range.
I wouldn't have even argued that Nog isn't what he used to be with you, because he isn't. But your argument is all kinds of wrong, and supported with the worst evidence imaginable.